BuffaloRebound Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 If he’s better and cheaper than Butler, then I’m for it. Same with WAtt. He’s better than Addison and Jefferson combined and most likely cheaper than those 2 combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 He's been a total waste of space since he signed the extension in Carolina. I totally get why everyone on here immediately rejects him but hold your horses. He is already getting over 9 million from Carolina to not play for them. You could probably get him for close to vet minimum and cut Vernon Butler freeing up cap space. You're upgrading at 3T for less money and you wouldn't be depending on him because Oliver is the future. This could happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) I love ya Chevy, but we just Busted playfully 78’s chops on a new thread for everyone being a cap casualty. My apologies 78 as you tried to rectify and changed you’re title to cap or possible cap casualties. If you guys want to start a new thread for the next 40 guys as cap casualties, but I’ll give 78 credit, he tried to get them lumped into one thread and would probably have 100 pages so we can just keep track of it. Im not a mod so whatever you guys want. This is going to get long meaning a new thread almost everyday if it’s a new one for every hit. You guys discuss and decide. Edited February 16, 2021 by machine gun kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Take his former team’s fans with a grain of salt but everyone there thinks he’s completely washed. Dudes get real old quick in the nfl. See Mario Addison. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We need this guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So replace average ex Carolina Panther with washed up ex Carolina Panther? Love it! Well Butler was never good. Short was once good. But it's totally fair to say he may have nothing left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 A nice article on Short from a while ago. Highlights his strengths. Yes definitely a 3T https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2611483-panthers-kawann-short-went-from-the-other-dt-to-elite-nfl-defender.amp.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Doesn't fit what we need. He's always been a 3 tech at his best We are set at 3 tech with Oliver, and Jefferson .. short would be an expensive and old option 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Sign him now...sign him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Pass. Not an area of need, old and injury-prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 GIT 'R' DUNNNN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Doesn't fit what we need. He's always been a 3 tech at his best We are set at 3 tech with Oliver, and Jefferson .. short would be an expensive and old option Do you think we’ll keep Jefferson? Short seems like a guy what wouldn’t cost very much and, if healthy, could outperform his contract, hence good value with not much risk (low salary). I haven’t seen him play in a couple years, similar to at least 90% of the posters in this thread that say he’s done. I won’t say he’d be a terrible pickup just because he’s from Carolina and has been hurt. To those that say he’s done, have you actually watched him? Or just look at his stats and injuries and assume? Based on what I saw from Jefferson last season and what I’ve known about Short in the past, I think I’d rather role the dice on Short IF we can get him for 2-4M a year, than keep Jefferson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: So replace average ex Carolina Panther with washed up ex Carolina Panther? Love it! Were you disappointed with Daryl Williams? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Doc said: Pass. Not an area of need, old and injury-prone. Who do you believe will be our backup 3T? I believe that Oliver’s backup will be an area of need, as I think we should and will cut Jefferson and Butler. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Were you disappointed with Daryl Williams? Some see Carolina and immediately sigh and say no. I haven’t see him play recently, so I’m not sure either. Bring him in and see how he looks. Offer him a team friendly contract if he looks like he can contribute imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you think we’ll keep Jefferson? Short seems like a guy what wouldn’t cost very much and, if healthy, could outperform his contract, hence good value with not much risk (low salary). I haven’t seen him play in a couple years, similar to at least 90% of the posters in this thread that say he’s done. I won’t say he’d be a terrible pickup just because he’s from Carolina and has been hurt. To those that say he’s done, have you actually watched him? Or just look at his stats and injuries and assume? Based on what I saw from Jefferson last season and what I’ve known about Short in the past, I think I’d rather role the dice on Short IF we can get him for 2-4M a year, than keep Jefferson. I mean I think it all depends on the deal short wants. Jefferson was coming on at the end of the season, and he actually is pretty disruptive At his peak short was a bigger stronger better player, and I wouldn't say he's done... But I'm not sure how much he has left His quickness was one of his best assets for a huge man , and he's lost a step 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Eventually ‘his guys’ should churn out of the system right? No because before Sean McDermott left for Buffalo he signed an agreement with Carolina to continue sending him all player film. This could go on forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who do you believe will be our backup 3T? I believe that Oliver’s backup will be an area of need, as I think we should and will cut Jefferson and Butler. Some see Carolina and immediately sigh and say no. By the time the new league year officially sets in I think there will be a lot more vets like Short available. Many of these guys like Short, Sheldon Rankins, etc will probably take some cheap “prove it” or ring chasing deals. The Bills getting to the AFCCG with a developing QB makes many of these guys relatively affordable options. As such.... I’m in wait and see mode because I think Beane will find a good match once all cap casualties hit the market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who do you believe will be our backup 3T? I believe that Oliver’s backup will be an area of need, as I think we should and will cut Jefferson and Butler. Some see Carolina and immediately sigh and say no. I haven’t see him play recently, so I’m not sure either. Bring him in and see how he looks. Offer him a team friendly contract if he looks like he can contribute imo. Phillips and Zimmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Not at all.... the one ex Carolina Panther they signed who actually performed well. Still, Williams is younger and had been an all pro. Short is 32 and as mentioned has been injury prone and not been on the field the past two seasons. The one ex Carolina Panther I'd love for them to pursue is Curtis Samuel. Short has also been an All Pro. Williams was bad and injury prone his last 2 years in Carolina....it's how we got him on a 1 year $2.5 million dollar contract to sign with the Bills this past year. What would it hurt bringing in Short at something like that when you have a heavy rotation on the DL? It doesn't guarantee he makes the roster and it doesn't keep you passing on someone who you might think is better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Get er done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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