YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Going to list a new UFA or RFA every day or so ... Levi Wallace is a RFA in 2021. He will be 26 and has started 23 games in 2 seasons. The new league year begins at 4 p.m. March 17. The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets is April 23. Projected tenders are based on future salary cap estimations and are subject to change when a future salary cap is made official. https://overthecap.com/franchise-transition-and-rfa-tenders/ Edited February 4, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Going to cost next to nothing, it’s an easy decision to tender IMO. I like this concept a lot. I’ve honestly always thought that crowdsourcing like this COULD be a valuable tool for front offices to use in their decision making process. Edited February 4, 2021 by JGMcD2 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 No reason to let him walk. Not like we're talking about huge money. He knows the system and until proven otherwise is our 2nd best outside corner. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 I wonder if anyone will give him an offer sheet. Probably not, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Agree w/ the other responses - this one seems pretty easy. He really played well this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I wonder if anyone will give him an offer sheet. Probably not, but you never know. I would say it depends on the tender we give him. Likely going to be original round with no compensation attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Levi catches a lot of heat on here and can be outmatched sometimes but we sure as heck could of done a lot worse the last few years. He’s a fantastic story, seems to be a fantastic human being, you 100% bring him back. One of these new GM’s may have done a little homework I wouldn’t be shocked to see him get an offer from a corner needy team 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB2SF Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 This is great, Yolo! Beggar/chooser here: would be great to have the cap hit as part of the data for each player. But I'll still read/respond anyways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 minute ago, UB2SF said: This is great, Yolo! Beggar/chooser here: would be great to have the cap hit as part of the data for each player. But I'll still read/respond anyways! I’m not sure what it will be - I’m terrible with projecting contracts. Last year it was 697k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I want Levi back. A 2-3 year reasonable prove it to us that you're a number 2 corner deal seems fair. Still young at 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Going to cost next to nothing, it’s an easy decision to tender IMO. I like this concept a lot. I’ve honestly always thought that crowdsourcing like this COULD be a valuable tool for front offices to use in their decision making process. I picture Beane sitting by the fire in his robe, checking the TBD daily poll to make personnel decisions. Why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 You can never have too many DBs. Great idea for a post series Yolo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UB2SF Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I picture Beane sitting by the fire in his robe, checking the TBD daily poll to make personnel decisions. Why not? Now I'm picturing him in that 12 Days of Christmas video! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Change the title to Re-sign or Resign... Edited February 4, 2021 by Freddie's Dead 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: I would say it depends on the tender we give him. Likely going to be original round with no compensation attached. That would be quite insulting to a player who has started 23 games here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I voted re-sign, but we need to truly allow Dane Jackson to compete for the job, he might just be what we all want him to be. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Would love it if he turned into the #4 cb, would mean there's some talent in front of him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I picture Beane sitting by the fire in his robe, checking the TBD daily poll to make personnel decisions. Why not? I’m actually dead serious lol FanGraphs does their crowdsourcing for MLB player contracts and they’re almost nearly spot on when it comes to the value the player ends up receiving. Fans as a whole are all over the place, but if you get enough opinions in one place it could be a useful tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: I would say it depends on the tender we give him. Likely going to be original round with no compensation attached. This is always admittedly confusing to me. I always thought it was 1st, 2nd, 5th or original round tender. Over The Cap says 1st, 2nd, and “right of first refusal” are the 3 available RFA tenders. https://overthecap.com/franchise-transition-and-rfa-tenders/ 2021 Projected RFA Tenders TypeAmount First Round$4,766,000 Second Round$3,384,000 Right of First Refusal$2,133,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Going to cost next to nothing, it’s an easy decision to tender IMO. I like this concept a lot. I’ve honestly always thought that crowdsourcing like this COULD be a valuable tool for front offices to use in their decision making process. Why do you say it costs next to nothing? The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation. Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise. He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively. So this decision is not as easy as it seems. I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman. I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount. If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go. I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 No reason to not resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Why do you say it costs next to nothing? The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation. Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise. He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively. So this decision is not as easy as it seems. I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman. I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount. If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go. I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M Spot on. I think he takes way more flak than he deserves. As the Bills start paying people (which has already begun) wallace and players like him will become even more important to the sustained success of the Bills. He way outperformed being a udfa and 3 million is half of what norman got this year. No brainer imo. If they were to get 4 years production and a 2nd rounder that's also a win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just gotta keep him from being isolated on big, physical receivers too often. That's where he gets picked on. In general, he's an effective corner in McFrazier's scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 One bye product of a pretty deep playoff run is very little time left to be bored before the next NFL calendar season begins. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 He needs to be upgraded but $3.2m for 1 year is almost a no brainer. Somebody will sign him if we original round tender him which means no draft compensation since he was an UDFA. Can never have too many CB’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Why do you say it costs next to nothing? The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation. Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise. He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively. So this decision is not as easy as it seems. I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman. I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount. If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go. I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M I said next to nothing, because relatively inexpensive. It’s not quite nothing but it’s next to it. Original round tender and right of first refusal tender cost you the same amount, they operate identically if the player is a UDFA. The minimum salary a player who has 3 years of service time can make is $825K. We’re going to likely pay him 150% more. If you want a similar caliber player in FA you’re paying Josh Norman money or more... it’s next to nothing in comparison to that as well. If memory serves me properly, teams don’t hand out 1st and 2nd round tenders too often and teams generally don’t pursue players with any level of tender. I believe Kareem Hunt received a 2nd round tender last year and no team gave him an offer sheet. EDIT: Looked a little deeper and my old memory was wrong, some of the better players normally get a RD2 tender. Hunt, Feiler, Hilton did last year. Nobody matched. If that’s all it takes to ensure Wallace stays for relatively cheap, I’m all for the RD2 tender. Good call. Edited February 4, 2021 by JGMcD2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Give Levi the 2nd round tender. He's been a good to above average player who's totally out-performed his original undrafted status At the very worst, he's quality depth for us in the years to come, and the kind of guy that has a really low downside to keeping around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I’d sign him but he’s going to get minimum 5 mil a year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I think we need to improve the cb2 spot this year. he is going to want/need like $3mm. I am torn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nester said: I think we need to improve the cb2 spot this year. he is going to want/need like $3mm. I am torn This was floated today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This was floated today That’d be a hell of a secondary. Still think Wallace would be worth retaining even if Beane added Rhodes if you can get him for $3mm AAV or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I love me some Levi Wallace. Get ‘er done Beane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Bring him back as “The Vet”. Draft a guy in mid to late rounds with high upside from maybe a smaller school or slides due to an injury in college you think won’t be lingering. Let Levi, Dane, and rookie battle for CB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 He’ll be back on an RFA tender or a short term extension. And that’s the right move. He’ll compete with Dane Jackson for playing time at CB2. A lot of people want a big name there, I’m fine with a guy at CB2. Spend your assets elsewhere (pass rusher) and better (also pass rusher bc they paid big and got little production for the money they spent) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) He played well once he started to get some series off in favor of Norman. I think we should upgrade him, but keep him as #3CB. They both did better splitting the job than either did playing full time. Overall he did better than Norman (although Norman made a few real big plays). Dane will get a bigger shot next year as well. Edited February 4, 2021 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Makes no sense to create a hole if we can keep him at a low salary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Going to list a new UFA or RFA every day or so ... Levi Wallace is a RFA in 2021. He will be 26 and has started 23 games in 2 seasons. The new league year begins at 4 p.m. March 17. The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets is April 23. I think you need to add options for which tender the Bills should offer him 1st round 2nd round or Original (he was an UDFA) I'm leaning towards 2nd round but we don't know yet what $$ that will be. An Original round tender should be ~$2.2M, 2nd round maybe $3.4M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 We need to re-sign him but I would definitely bring in some competition and Dane Jackson should be a part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Is the mean U.K. lady from 'The Weakest Link' still around? She can emcee 'Re-sign or Resign!'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I wouldn’t mind him here for competition and see if he makes it. I don’t see a reason why not let him compete with Dane and others to see who is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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