BillsMafi$ Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Rather have him go then Daboll Just now, BillsMafi$ said: Rather have him go then Daboll https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/11/texans-to-interview-leslie-frazier/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 cant imagine he gets the job but hey its the texans so who knows 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Good. He blows. 2 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He must know Sean McVay. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Frazier very under rated around here He is a very good coach Play calling a bit rough at times but the defense has developed players and when a guy goes down other players step up 18 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 Words.....Rooney Rule. 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: not cool. I’m not a fan of Frazier’s defense either, but no need to go there. You mean being realistic? Be mad at the rule...not me. This is thought most will have with that rule in place unless it's a top prospect. I wouldn't have said that about Eric Bieniemy. They passed on him so why would I think they are serious about Frazier?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30685827/houston-texans-ignored-search-firm-hiring-gm-nick-caserio-sources-say?platform=amp Personally, I wouldn’t go nowhere near this dumpster fire https://www.battleredblog.com/platform/amp/2021/1/11/22224417/report-texans-were-to-hire-omar-khan-for-general-manger-role-before-suddenly-hiring-nick-caserio Edited January 11, 2021 by Solomon Grundy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Jeeze not much love for our coach???? I think he has done a pretty good job with what he has to work with.Not having Star this season really hurt and not having a clearcut#2 cornerback has hurt.I think Leslie runs what coach Mcdermott wants him to run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The Texans head coaching job, if Watson leaves, would be equal to the Browns job before this season. Lots of 1 or 2 losing seasons followed by a firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 This would add another smiling face to their locker room 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It’s Sean’s defense anyway this game should have been over when Bills went up 24-10 in the 4th quarter they had two consecutive scoring drives under 2 minutes...he can go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Very few assistant coaches have succeeded when given a second shot at a head coaching position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 If I were Frazier I’d want nothing to do with that place. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yes, completely understand Star opting out, apparently he was genetically predisposed to COVID, and decision came late. First 6 games defense was a mess, and not great against Indy. Hope he stays with a full toolkit next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Good for Frazier and Daboll but selfishly I'd like to have less distractions this week playing the Ravens. Both sides of the ball provide unique challenges (especially the Ravens offense) and we have not played them this year. I'd be less concerned if we were playing the Steelers as we just scouted and played them a few weeks ago. Plus, the Steelers are a much lesser opponent. I don't like the way we match up with the Ravens and they were the one team I was hoping to avoid before the Chiefs. Having both coordinators being focused on other opportunities does not help as we will need to have excellent game plans and execute them very well to win this week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He actually makes a lot of sense in Houston You have him as the head guy - organiser/sets the tone/direction But this allows Watson to be more the offensive coordinator. The texans don't need an offensive coach as their QB is already developed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, StHustle said: You mean being realistic? Be mad at the rule...not me. This is thought most will have with that rule in place unless it's a top prospect. I wouldn't have said that about Eric Bieniemy. They passed on him so why would I think they are serious about Frazier?? The list of bum white head coaches who’ve gotten their jobs based on the good ol’ boy network is infinitely longer. I like a more attacking defense than Frazier’s but it doesn’t mean he hasn’t earned the right to be considered for head coaching jobs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Kwai San said: 2 Words.....Rooney Rule. be better than this 9 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kwai San said: 2 Words.....Rooney Rule. Already interviewed a minority candidate. Can people please stop bringing up Rooney rule whenever a minority coach is interviewed. It's very disrespectful. Edited January 11, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 17 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Good luck and Godspeed Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 He is more of an actual coach/teacher/developer and less play caller so because of that fans think he sucks Which are probably the best traits to have as a head coach candidate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, StHustle said: You mean being realistic? Be mad at the rule...not me. This is thought most will have with that rule in place unless it's a top prospect. I wouldn't have said that about Eric Bieniemy. They passed on him so why would I think they are serious about Frazier?? Maybe they have similar doubts about how much of the KC offense is Eric Reid that some have about how much of the Buffalo offense is Sean McDermott Maybe their defense is struggling more than their offense so they specifically want a HC from the defensive side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Do the bills get draft picks if he gets hired, under the new rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Distractions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Wow...I'm hearing some horrible stuff on this post, racial, and otherwise classless. Frazier was an experienced HC who made a playoff run. Worked w Dungy and saw how it was supposed to be done. He's led a top Defense here, and excelled, despite some loss of personel this year, got them back into form. He is a great canidate and wish him well. If Texans wanted to satisfy Rooney rule, they would simply have given Crennel an interview. I believe he is a serious canidate. Frasier deserves a lot better than a few of you are speaking about. This guy is OUR dude and he deserves a lot better and more respectful than what I'm hearing! Edited January 11, 2021 by RichRiderBills 10 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 His profile was actually stronger in ‘18 and ‘19 when his defenses were top 5. Never got the profile boost from the ‘18 season because the offense was in the high 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Process said: Do the bills get draft picks if he gets hired, under the new rule? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Wow...I'm hearing some horrible stuff on this post, racial, and otherwise classless. Frazier was an experienced HC who made a playoff run. Worked w Dungy and saw how it was supposed to be done. He's led a top Defense here, and excelled, despite some loss of personel this year, got them back into form. He is a great canidate and wish him well. If Texans wanted to satisfy Rooney rule, they would simply have given Crennel an interview. I believe he is a serious canidate. Frasier deserves a lot better than a few of you are speaking about. This guy is OUR dude and he deserves a lot better and more respectful than what I'm hearing! Agree! Matt Parrino sets it out well: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/01/bills-leslie-frazier-to-interview-for-texans-head-coaching-job-per-reports.html 3 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: His profile was actually stronger in ‘18 and ‘19 when his defenses were top 5. Never got the profile boost from the ‘18 season because the offense was in the high 20s. Defense was #18 on points in 2018. 16th against the run. Last year, we were legit good across the board, but performance in the 2nd half of the Texans game overshadowed that a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, Kwai San said: 2 Words.....Rooney Rule. Two words....... already satisfied. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Agree! Matt Parrino sets it out well: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/01/bills-leslie-frazier-to-interview-for-texans-head-coaching-job-per-reports.html It isn't unreal at all. Frazier was and is a very good DC. He had a run as a head coach and failed, landed on his feet as DC. Smart teams realize that very few succeed on their second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Wow...I'm hearing some horrible stuff on this post, racial, and otherwise classless. Frazier was an experienced HC who made a playoff run. Worked w Dungy and saw how it was supposed to be done. He's led a top Defense here, and excelled, despite some loss of personel this year, got them back into form. He is a great canidate and wish him well. If Texans wanted to satisfy Rooney rule, they would simply have given Crennel an interview. I believe he is a serious canidate. Frasier deserves a lot better than a few of you are speaking about. This guy is OUR dude and he deserves a lot better and more respectful than what I'm hearing! Texans have already interviewed Jim Caldwell and Marvin Lewis. This is not a Rooney Rule interview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, WMDman said: cant imagine he gets the job but hey its the texans so who knows I'd be shocked if he gets another HC job anywhere in the league. He's one of many ex-HCs who will be permanently demoted back to the coordinator level, where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, jethro_tull said: It isn't unreal at all. Frazier was and is a very good DC. He had a run as a head coach and failed, landed on his feet as DC. Smart teams realize that very few succeed on their second chance. And he is 61, a low key type of guy, a defensive guy, in a market where they want a splash and to build an offense around their top 5 QB.... I just don't know how exciting a hire Leslie is, but he is a good dude and a good coach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, jethro_tull said: It isn't unreal at all. Frazier was and is a very good DC. He had a run as a head coach and failed, landed on his feet as DC. Smart teams realize that very few succeed on their second chance. And yet, as your data implies, quite a number of HC who went on to be OCs or DCs have been offered a second chance Quite a number of 1st time candidates also fail, so by that logic one shouldn't hire one of them either And then there's the college ranks, what's the record there? The point is people learn and grow, and a good coach may be well deserving of a 2nd look. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Good. He blows. This is a very shallow, and in my opinion baseless opinion. Granted the D has been somewhat less effective this year but they have been league leaders under his coaching previously. He is also asst. HC in Buffalo with the owner’s recommendation. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: And he is 61, a low key type of guy, a defensive guy, in a market where they want a splash and to build an offense around their top 5 QB.... I just don't know how exciting a hire Leslie is, but he is a good dude and a good coach. And since he is a defense guy he can find an on and upcoming coach to be OC and would get control of offense which he would not get under a HC with offense background. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And yet, as your data implies, quite a number of HC who went on to be OCs or DCs have been offered a second chance Quite a number of 1st time candidates also fail, so by that logic one shouldn't hire one of them either And then there's the college ranks, what's the record there? The point is people learn and grow, and a good coach may be well deserving of a 2nd look. If Leslie was 51 he'd have been gone in 2018 (when he did interview with the Colts) or last year (when I don't think he had any interviews as I recall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, Process said: Do the bills get draft picks if he gets hired, under the new rule? Yes but under the terms of compensatory picks it will be forwarded to the New England Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And yet, as your data implies, quite a number of HC who went on to be OCs or DCs have been offered a second chance Quite a number of 1st time candidates also fail, so by that logic one shouldn't hire one of them either And then there's the college ranks, what's the record there? The point is people learn and grow, and a good coach may be well deserving of a 2nd look. Marv Levy anyone? Isnt it amazing how little people learn from our own history? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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