Logic Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'm gonna go ahead and guess Yeldon will be active. He's more of a "sure thing" in the playoffs. I'm guessing that both his pass blocking and pass catching skills are superior to Williams. That said, regardless of who gets the start, I expect Singletary to take 80+ % of the snaps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Bummer to lose our Steelers killer the week before we play them again. Williams is closer to Moss in style. A battering ram to close out a game. Yeldon can catch the ball and block, and he's a pretty good runner. But he's not a short-yardage guy, and he's not ideal for closing out a game. At least that's my impression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm gonna go ahead and guess Yeldon will be active. He's more of a "sure thing" in the playoffs. I'm guessing that both his pass blocking and pass catching skills are superior to Williams. That said, regardless of who gets the start, I expect Singletary to take 80+ % of the snaps. Singletary has been a different runner as of late IMO. Seemingly more content to settle for the 3 yard gains vs the redirection and possability of losing yardage. Not a big back , but playing like one with more down hill running IMO. Accelerating like he was shot out of a cannon in some instances. I like it... Edited January 10, 2021 by Figster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I wouldn’t mind seeing Williams play. I mean his specific designation is to run the ball. Not pass protection, not to catch passes. He showed some pretty good contact balance and power in the limited time he played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I think, if anything, people tend to overlook the importance of pass blocking, pass catching, and knowledge of the (huge) playbook when it comes to running backs. Is Williams the better pure RUNNER? Maybe. Even that is a small sample size. But does he check those other three boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I wouldn’t mind seeing Williams play. I mean his specific designation is to run the ball. Not pass protection, not to catch passes. He showed some pretty good contact balance and power in the limited time he played The angry running of Williams was awesome and should earn more playing time IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Figster said: The angry running of Williams was awesome and should earn more playing time IMO. I agree. WIth the way he ran when given an opportunity and the basically complete lack of a running game all season, I'm having trouble seeing the downside to letting Williams get some reps in. Yeldon still scares me with ball security. For some reason, I'm having a hard time letting that fumble against the Bengals go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I agree. WIth the way he ran when given an opportunity and the basically complete lack of a running game all season, I'm having trouble seeing the downside to letting Williams get some reps in. Yeldon still scares me with ball security. For some reason, I'm having a hard time letting that fumble against the Bengals go Singletary is on pace to fumble more. Certain plays do stand out sometimes. I understand. Yeldon has good size with a big catching radius and would work real well as a 3rd down specialist IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Disappointed there was no poll included in this topic. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Tie goes to the better pass protector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 21 hours ago, wvbillsfan said: Give me TJ. We don’t need a back to run the ball. We need a back to block and catch the ball. I don’t want Daboll to have grandiose ideas that we are a running team Realistically we just don't have the OL talent to run block. Yeldon is great in coming out of the backfield to catch. He can even extend downfield. It will be a close call considering how little McD has used TJ this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 activate both. Yeldon is experienced and can catch. Williams was a beast v a good Miami D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Yeldon, just use him for passing and pass protection. He’s got very reliable hands and we shouldn’t be trying to run the ball anyways, we straight up suck at it. Just let Allen throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Whoever is better at pass pro. That will be their main role in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 What was the purpose of signing yeldon. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Bills clearly liked Moss as the lead back, I think McD is afraid of his fumbling issues popping up with Motor and how much that can impact a playoff game. From what I seen in week 17 , Williams is definitely more like Moss but do they trust him in such a huge spot? I think we're going to need a little more from our run game to continue this run. Edited January 10, 2021 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's Yeldon, no question IMO. He's the vet, and he does everything pretty well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Considering Dane Jackson is inactive and Josh Norman is in, you can see how much McD favors experience, even at the expense of pure talent. Yeldon clearly will be active, the question is will we elevate both backs if TJ seems rusty. Williams sure looked like a beast vs Miami, and that was no preseason game. Fumbling is an issue with Yeldon, maybe Williams will get the nod. I hope they go with the kid. Is he a pass catcher? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Whoever can pick up the blitz and chip block will prob be in there. Singletary performed that duty perfectly on the Allen to Diggs TD pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Whoever is better in pass pro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I’m thinking we have a multi page thread on this currently.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 TJ TJ TJ TJ TJ TJ TJ TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I don't know how good Moss and Singletary are because this year there is no full-back on the team. I think the Bills need a full-back on the roster next year that helps on third down blocking but also adds a new options for Josh a Full-back out of the backfield on passing plays make teams cover everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: I don't know how good Moss and Singletary are because this year there is no full-back on the team. I think the Bills need a full-back on the roster next year that helps on third down blocking but also adds a new options for Josh a Full-back out of the backfield on passing plays make teams cover everywhere. Yeah we still miss that deep pass to DiMarco in the playoffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Considering Dane Jackson is inactive and Josh Norman is in, you can see how much McD favors experience, even at the expense of pure talent. Yeldon clearly will be active, the question is will we elevate both backs if TJ seems rusty. Williams sure looked like a beast vs Miami, and that was no preseason game. Fumbling is an issue with Yeldon, maybe Williams will get the nod. I hope they go with the kid. Is he a pass catcher? Fumbling is not an issue with Yeldon. His career fumble rate is the lower than Singletary's. Devin has 5 fumbles in 374 touches (rush and receiving) for a rate of 1.3%. Yledon has 7 on 677 touches and a rate of 1.0%. Moss technically has no credited fumbles on the year, but he was part of a bad exchange and lost fumble earlier this year that was credited to Allen as the last person having possession of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I wouldn’t be so quick to pass on Williams. He seems to be a bruiser and most simply fills in that role for Moss. If it were Singletary that were hurt, I’d say it’d be Yeldon no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Yeldon is better as a pass catcher. Next week do they want to run between the tackles or get rbs on backers as a favorable matchup? I think Yeldon fits the offense better. Against Baltimore or Pittsburgh I like Yeldon on their backers. Its an element the offense hasnt been heavily utilized. On the other side Williams brings a silimar running style to Moss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 5:05 PM, Devilmann said: I liked what Williams did against Miami I would like to see more to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WideNine Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Yeldon is better as a pass catcher. Next week do they want to run between the tackles or get rbs on backers as a favorable matchup? I think Yeldon fits the offense better. Against Baltimore or Pittsburgh I like Yeldon on their backers. Its an element the offense hasnt been heavily utilized. On the other side Williams brings a silimar running style to Moss. I know that Yeldon has soft hands and is a good outlet, but not sure what we have in Williams to dismiss that role out of hand. He did not post much in the receiving column when playing for NC, but that can also just be offensive game planning or scheme. He did do some kick return duty. Tough to say whether he would be a great asset or hurt us. As a pure running back he may well be better than Yeldon, but knowledge of our offense, pass-pro duties, and when and where to release as an outlet option for Allen, Yeldon probably is more capable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 If Yeldon is clear I would imagine it is him. Unless Williams has earned some pt from McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I wouldn’t be so quick to pass on Williams. He seems to be a bruiser and most simply fills in that role for Moss. If it were Singletary that were hurt, I’d say it’d be Yeldon no doubt Yeldon is still the biggest RB and has the same top speed as Williams. I like TJ in short yardage situations too. As good as Williams was against the Fins, they worry demoralized at that point and I worry about putting a rookie into a playoff game with so much pressure. I'd go with the Vet, and my guess is McD does too... He could call up them both. Edited January 10, 2021 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, billsherd said: Yeah we still miss that deep pass to DiMarco in the playoffs. That play would of worked if he would have timed his jump right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'm all in favor of activating any RB who can gain a yard on 2nd and 1, or 3rd and 1. 3 attempts yesterday...3 fails. Has been a problem most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 to reiterate Antonio Williams had 12 CAR for 63 YDS and 2 TDS with an AVG of 5.3 YPC against a “good” Miami defense. Yeldon only offers a pass option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Watching him run, he reminds me of Nick Chubb. He runs with great pad level. Got a little shiftiness and runs with a purpose. Can catch screen passes too. Very intriguing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yeldon offers nothing to this team literally, nothing. We don’t need a RB that can catch passes, we have 7 WR’s deep who can do that we need someone who can actually run the damn football down the defenses throat. Willams and it’s not a discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 2:05 PM, Devilmann said: I liked what Williams did against Miami I would like to see more to be honest. it would definitely be nice to add some production from the running game. Saying that whoever pass protects and catches the ball better should be the guy. We are not winning with the ground game this year. I think it will be Yeldon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 We don’t need a RB who can catch passes out the backfield. there is a reason why he has rarely been active all season. Williams is the type of RB this offense has been crying out for this entire season. A bull rusher than runs with a purpose and can wear a defense down. Give the rookie an opportunity and he will flourish. He is probably more hungry to show what he’s got than anyone on this team right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Penfield45 said: We don’t need a RB who can catch passes out the backfield. there is a reason why he has rarely been active all season. Williams is the type of RB this offense has been crying out for this entire season. A bull rusher than runs with a purpose and can wear a defense down. Give the rookie an opportunity and he will flourish. He is probably more hungry to show what he’s got than anyone on this team right now. I would love to see Williams play in the divisional game. But do you think McDermott would go with the lack of experience over a veteran? I hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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