Krazy Haze Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: anyone else feel like the offense held something back today? no motion, no sweeps, no trick plays. Seemed like a simple game plan I feel the same way. It's like they felt it would be an easier game and held back a bit. I felt the same with the Miami game in the 1st quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: I looked at it more like respect that they needed TDs and not FGs to beat us. Good point as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The Bills did what they needed to do. They beat a good team. This is the AFC playoffs people. There are no guarantees. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: OK, I had not seen this angle before. As I stated in my post above: In one angle couldn't at all see Poyers left hand as there was an officials body in the way. I do think if there was a camera exactly 180 degrees opposite of the 1st one that the officials body blocked the view of would have had a much clearer view. This basically is that view from 180 degrees that I wanted to see. From here I'd agree, his knee was up. Don't think they showed this angle during the game though either? There's a 57 second replay showing three camera angles on ESPN, but none from this direction either. This was the TV angle replay and I replayed it a bunch on my tv. Thats why I knew it was clear. I could see them getting it wrong on the field but they had this to look at in review. It should have been ruled a fumble on review. Sorry if I was harsh. I assumed you seen this angle. Edited January 10, 2021 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 A baker's dozen thoughts on the game: 1. Josh Allen 5-6 in 20+ air yards. That stripe to Diggs was b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l 2. Give Colts their due, they brought that clock to -1 on nearly every play. Masterfully done. 3. I won't lie, I gasped when that hail Rivers was thrown. It seemed to me there was white behind blue in the endzone. 4. I understand why Reich eschewed the field goal, I just don't think it was the right call in the game. 5. The 96-yard drive afterwards changed the game and the momentum. Gabe Davis with two incredible catches on that drive. 6. The field position battle was brutal all through the first half. 7. The Colts TEs came to play. They made a bunch of great snags, especially on third down. 8. Letting the Colts drive twice in the fourth was nuts. They made it seem so easy. 9. Beasley was an absolute warrior out there today. He made some very tough catches on one leg. 10. Allen's first TD pass, or rather shot put throw, was very fortunate to not have been called back for lineman downfield. I will need to watch it again. 11. Bass with a 54 yarder has erased any second guessing about him and his ability. That would have been good from 60. 12. The last two minutes of that game may have been the most stressed I have been in a long time. 13. The monkey is off of Josh's back and is now squarely on Lamar's. Go Titans. Go Steelers. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Merle said: Three things from this game worry me going forward in the playoffs: 1. Designed QB runs are back from some reason - way too many, and mostly not effective, and exposed Josh to unnecessary hits. Yes, the first one down near the goal line worked, but the second one was nearly a disaster ... that Josh turned into a "fluke" TD to Knox. 2. "Bad Josh" showed up on the play where he lost 20 yards on a sack and nearly fumbled it away when the Bills were within FG range near the end of the game. 3. Pass rush was pretty much non-existent. 4. Colts essentially left 7 points on the table (going for it on 4th down instead of FG, going for 2 instead of 1, doinked 33-yd FG) and lost by 3. On the other hand, this was exactly the type of game that the "old Bills" definitely would have lost somehow (either on that "hail Mary", or some other way). The fact that they won "in spite of themselves" against a Colts team that was much better than anyone thought is a positive. Go Bills! I don't like "Bad Josh"? Josh is pretty dang good and we have to allow our guys to make a mistake, don't we? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 In my opinion, during the huge sack play it looked as if Allen fought off the first man; then saw the other Colt. After seeing that Colt he looked as if he tried to tuck the ball in but the DE made a good play and stripped him. Earlier in the half he was surrounded and just ate the sack. So Allen is learning that throwing the ball wildly when pressured isn't wise and that there are occasions where you just have to eat it. To me that is a great sign of his growth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: In my opinion, during the huge sack play it looked as if Allen fought off the first man; then saw the other Colt. After seeing that Colt he looked as if he tried to tuck the ball in but the DE made a good play and stripped him. Earlier in the half he was surrounded and just ate the sack. So Allen is learning that throwing the ball wildly when pressured isn't wise and that there are occasions where you just have to eat it. To me that is a great sign of his growth. Also there are many more times he gets away from that than he doesnt and it usually results in a big play. Can't complain about the bad if you want the good. If he just went down and took every sack, we probably wouldn't win as much. It's part of who he is and what this team needs. It's also why the players love him and would run through brick walls for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: This was the TV angle replay and I replayed it a bunch on my tv. Thats why I knew it was clear. I could see them getting it wrong on the field but they had this to look at in review. It should have been ruled a fumble on review. Sorry if I was harsh. I assumed you seen this angle. This was the angle I kept seeing them showing most of the time: And the other angles ESPN showed were with Poyer's body hiding his arm And was a 3rd one with official's body in the way Was doing alot of texting while watching so maybe missed that view. Edited January 10, 2021 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: This was the angle I kept seeing them showing most of the time: And the other angles ESPN showed were with Poyer's body hiding his arm And was a 3rd one with official's body in the way I would agree with you on those angles you can't tell. The angle I showed is the same one the TV showed which is why I assumed you seen it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: This was the angle I kept seeing them showing most of the time: And the other angles ESPN showed were with Poyer's body hiding his arm And was a 3rd one with official's body in the way Was doing alot of texting while watching so maybe missed that view. They show another angle which you could easily see Poyer didn't touch Pascal until his knee was off the ground. It was bang, bang, but they played it multiple times; so it was certainly a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I don't like "Bad Josh"? Josh is pretty dang good and we have to allow our guys to make a mistake, don't we? Yeah I hate this nickname too. I watched Mahomes take a 20+ yard sack in the Miami game.. Just a horrible play. No one calls him bad Patrick because of it. QBs make mistakes. It happens. DId you watch the poor throws Russell made today? These guys are gamers and are doing everything in their power to win. If that is your lasting memory of this game, you missed the game. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Get an extra rest day for next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Drifter said: The Colts converted way too many 3rd downs. Tighten it up next week. Seemed like every one was just inches beyond the marker as well. Game of thin margins there, so frustrating. 3 hours ago, Tcali said: Game ball Gabriel Feel like he had kind of a rough patch recently but was absolutely clutch and saved his best game so far for the playoffs. What a draft pick. 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Actually LOL'd at the above when I saw this live. That kick was huge and just thought this was an understated/hilarious reaction. Diggs is like 'Oh ok.' @wjag great thoughts/observations above! Really think most people underestimated the Colts and they just played great rather than the Bills playing poorly. Josh played awesome (even setting some more records) and anyone saying that 'Bad Josh' showed up on that fumble is being harsh IMO. That was his only mistake of the entire game and Josh trying to make a play instead of taking the safe option is probably what won us this game. Those two really quick/easy scoring drives in the 4th quarter were such a shock. Hines is sooooo slippery and the TEs were giving us fits. Indy was a really tough match up for us without Star/a true 1 Tech DT and their O-line is unbelievable. I thought outside of those two drives though, the defense came up clutch in some really big moments throughout the game though. For anyone still feeling down about the game, at least we aren't the Seahawks (out of the playoffs) or the Rams (won, but several key injuries including Donald and Kupp). Hope Moss is doing alright, but otherwise I didn't notice any other injuries and we came out pretty healthy. Hopefully all our WRs can get back to 100% by next weekend! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVGrown Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I don't like "Bad Josh"? Josh is pretty dang good and we have to allow our guys to make a mistake, don't we? Agreed. Perfection does not exist, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. -Vince Lombardi Josh Allen was fu*kin excellent today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Today was huge for the growth of this young team. They showed that even when things aren't going perfectly, even when the opponent is outgaining them and controlling the clock, even when they're losing the field position battle, even when the refs try to steal it from them....they can overcome adversity and get a win. It's #4 on the list of McDermott-isms: "Find a way". Today, they found a way. They were mentally tough. This was a significant marker of growth. Hopefully, this by-the-skin-of-their-teeth win will have them digging in, re-focusing, and realizing that they need to play even better next week. I bet they will. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) The other big question is this rhe end of the Buffalo hasn't wont x type of game in X years outside of the SB in every game cast ? Edited January 10, 2021 by Sharky7337 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 No Josh Allen, we get blown out by 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Fire Riveron https://www.change.org/p/roger-goodell-fire-al-riveron-fix-the-nfl-officiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 So yes, that feild position battle was really huge early on, was stunned at some of those early returns, Andre a bit off his game. One time , a ball sat so strange. BTW not over concerned with lack of Bills pressure. This was a killer OL on their top game. It was a factor here, but the Bills will recover. We do need an elite rush DE going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I hope our next game is Sunday not Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Canadian Bills Fan said: I hope our next game is Sunday not Saturday I’m hoping for a Saturday game again... get our opponent on 5 days’ rest 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, Merle said: Three things from this game worry me going forward in the playoffs: 1. Designed QB runs are back from some reason - way too many, and mostly not effective, and exposed Josh to unnecessary hits. Yes, the first one down near the goal line worked, but the second one was nearly a disaster ... that Josh turned into a "fluke" TD to Knox. 2. "Bad Josh" showed up on the play where he lost 20 yards on a sack and nearly fumbled it away when the Bills were within FG range near the end of the game. 3. Pass rush was pretty much non-existent. 4. Colts essentially left 7 points on the table (going for it on 4th down instead of FG, going for 2 instead of 1, doinked 33-yd FG) and lost by 3. On the other hand, this was exactly the type of game that the "old Bills" definitely would have lost somehow (either on that "hail Mary", or some other way). The fact that they won "in spite of themselves" against a Colts team that was much better than anyone thought is a positive. Go Bills! Sorry but I didn't see any "bad Josh" today. You can't expect perfection on every single play. He got sacked and fumbled, it happens. Today Allen was responsible for over 95% of the Bills offensive yardage and all three TDs. That was simply an amazing performance. We need to move off the "bad Josh" meme - it no longer exists. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMiller Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Sorry but I didn't see any "bad Josh" today. You can't expect perfection on every single play. He got sacked and fumbled, it happens. Today Allen was responsible for over 95% of the Bills offensive yardage and all three TDs. That was simply an amazing performance. We need to move off the "bad Josh" meme - it no longer exists. This. The “Bad Josh” thing is incredibly lazy, especially when you use it after today’s game where he literally WAS the offense and willed us to victory. Terrible take. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Fire Riveron https://www.change.org/p/roger-goodell-fire-al-riveron-fix-the-nfl-officiating It's been there for a year and has only 427 signatures so I'm thinking it's not a Thing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, MarkMiller said: This. The “Bad Josh” thing is incredibly lazy, especially when you use it after today’s game where he literally WAS the offense and willed us to victory. Terrible take. It's a legacy of his rookie year where he did a lot of bonehead stuff. Last year he cut those plays way back but had a couple. This year he hasn't had any IMO. We can't confuse trying to make a play or simply making a mistake with it being a "bad Josh" thing. We need to move beyond this. Allen will make mistakes but he has transcended "bad Josh". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: The other big question is this rhe end of the Buffalo hasn't wont x type of game in X years outside of the SB in every game cast ? The magic 8 ball said "Unlikely to occur" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Merle said: "Bad Josh" showed up on the play where he lost 20 yards on a sack and nearly fumbled it away when the Bills were within FG range near the end of the game. Supremely horrible take. Josh was the ONLY reason the Buffalo Bills are playing next weekend. That was an unlucky play and not the result of Josh playing “hero ball” or trying to do too much. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Hope you’re ready 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The guy crying in the stands after the game ended was PRICELESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merle Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I don't like "Bad Josh"? Josh is pretty dang good and we have to allow our guys to make a mistake, don't we? "Bad Josh" was the just the moniker folks used to describe Josh last year when he would make bad decisions (usually trying to make a play when it would have been better to either throw it away, or even just take a sack). He seemed to have "grown out of that" for the most part this year ... but it surfaced again on that one play today. I don't expect him to be perfect with his "execution" ... I just want him to make the right decision. Trying to make "something out of nothing", and in the process, giving up a possible FG attempt, and nearly losing the ball, was the absolute worst case possible. He really had pretty much stopped make decisions like that this year ... but it showed up again at the worst possible time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Might've been posted already but I'm not scrolling through 38 pages 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Might've been posted already but I'm not scrolling through 38 pages That’s a slap in Actions face. Send Chris $20!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Might've been posted already but I'm not scrolling through 38 pages Making fun of Elway hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, RiotAct said: I’m hoping for a Saturday game again... get our opponent on 5 days’ rest I’d guess the 1 seeds will be on Sunday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertig0 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Don't know that I've seen this here yet... Edit: No, it's not Peter Pan. But it is awesome. Edited January 10, 2021 by Vertig0 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Merle said: "Bad Josh" was the just the moniker folks used to describe Josh last year when he would make bad decisions (usually trying to make a play when it would have been better to either throw it away, or even just take a sack). He seemed to have "grown out of that" for the most part this year ... but it surfaced again on that one play today. I don't expect him to be perfect with his "execution" ... I just want him to make the right decision. Trying to make "something out of nothing", and in the process, giving up a possible FG attempt, and nearly losing the ball, was the absolute worst case possible. He really had pretty much stopped make decisions like that this year ... but it showed up again at the worst possible time. He got sacked. It happens. Frankly the play should have been blown dead before the fumble but different QB's get different whistles in these situations. And the problem was that with a first down at the Colts 38 late in the game we couldn't execute a normal running game like most teams can. That we were looking for a deep shot on that play is a problem. I'm all for kill shots but having to keep throwing with the lead in the 4th quarter is risky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: The guy crying in the stands after the game ended was PRICELESS My wife said that she started crying because he was crying. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Success said: If you're a Bills fan and you are anything from euphoric, you're thinking too much. 25 years. Soak it in. All that matters: we won this game. Euphoric? Try relieved. Hydes hail mary knockdown was like a box of valium with no overdose. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: My wife said that she started crying because he was crying. 🤣 it’s weird, I didn’t even come close to crying after the final whistle. I was more euphoric. If we make it to the Big Dance I’ll probably cry a little, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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