WhoTom Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, WideNine said: Also Lee Smith is not really known as "hands" Smith. In that play design he is likely more a decoy to draw coverage away. Sometimes teams do not fall for the decoy. Or, they may realize that he's not known as Lee "Hands" Smith and they just don't bother covering him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 He certainly was open for a TD. Well, we won and now that throw by Allen has gone viral, so I guess it all worked out. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) What is it with Bill fans, is Lee Smith the new whipping boy now that DiMarco is gone? For years it was Kelsay. Edited December 9, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: He wasn’t open when Josh started to throw. Why is this even a partial thing? Lol. You're looking at the wrong TE. Look at the top of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Or, they may realize that he's not known as Lee "Hands" Smith and they just don't bother covering him. A couple of teams have done that to be burnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Process said: Lol. You're looking at the wrong TE. Look at the top of the screen. Oops. Ha. Thx. I will delete that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'm going to guess Lee Smith is his 6th read 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'm old enough to remember Butch Rolle was automatic in the red zone. 10 TD's in 5 years covering a total of 14 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Lee was the very last read on that play. Was that DB Sherman? So youre saying if Sherman didnt rush in and saw Lee break he would then start covering Lee? Yeah....there is a reason JA did not look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm going to guess Lee Smith is his 6th read Maybe 8th, after taking a sack or throwing it away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 aha .. this solves the mystery of how he managed to get an espn QBR of only 75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Anyone "blaming" Josh for this play simply doesn't. know. football. His progressions were clearly from left to right and he had his man early. No reason for him to even look to the right unless he couldn't pull the trigger to Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Or, they may realize that he's not known as Lee "Hands" Smith and they just don't bother covering him. Truth - so you are saying no one confuses him with that "other" #85.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Both the Bills Offense and any opposing Defense ignore Lee Smith. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: that guy is still around? Is he finding new ways to hate the bills offense or is he pretending he was the architect? No he loves what they are doing on offense and is thankful we look like we joined the new NFL in terms of passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Both the Bills Offense and any opposing Defense ignore Lee Smith. And rightfully so. I remember on his first tenure with the Bills he caught a pass about 10 yards down the sideline and then ran out of bounds. And a Bills WR, maybe Robert Woods, was blocking for him and went up to him and said “Why didn’t you cut up field? There wasn’t anyone there.” And Lee Smith said, “I don’t cut.” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 56 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Or, they may realize that he's not known as Lee "Hands" Smith and they just don't bother covering him. 33 minutes ago, Limeaid said: A couple of teams have done that to be burnt. With stats like this, it's a risk I'd be willing to take: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, matter2003 said: No he loves what they are doing on offense and is thankful we look like we joined the new NFL in terms of passing what??? He’s thankful, pleased? I’ve gotta hear this! edit: just tuned in and Wood, right now as I type, is ragging on him for being so optimistic and happy. Edited December 9, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, WhoTom said: With stats like this, it's a risk I'd be willing to take: He doesn’t even spell his own name right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m glad josh didn’t see it. i don’t want anything happening to encourage more Lee Smith inclusion in the passing offense. Yeah, now that Pat DiMarco is gone Josh needs a new favorite receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan Darragh said: Yeah, now that Pat DiMarco is gone Josh needs a new favorite receiver. maybe. Until he finds one, I’m good with the guy that has 121 targets through 12 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 hours ago, dneveu said: He still wasn't open enough... that’s what TT said😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What is it with Bill fans, is Lee Smith the new whipping boy now that DiMarco is gone? For years it was Kelsay. Not the new whipping boy, he's been the whipping boy ever since he got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in a game that he didn't even dress for. Got in the way of the gunner on the sideline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1) we tried Lee before, no thanks 2) hes not walking in anywhere his career yards after catch is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Rk_Bills86 said: So Allen did actually initially check Smith, but when he looks the DE looks like he's going to run with him. This is an example of what Allen should work on next year, Yes he clearly sees the soft spot in the zone and the Davis is going to be in the clear to get there - but just as he's gotten better at initial reads of "is this man or zone" - he'll need to be able to say "that's too many defenders on this side of the field- can't be right" and be able to instinctively turn and hit the TE that's released. Having a better TE that he could trust to beat a DE that dropped in coverage with him might also make this an easier choice. This is a prime example of how Allen has gotten so much better but is NOT at the same level of say Rodgers. There is a great clip from a game where Rodgers comes to line, scans the D set up, and does a literal double take on who's defending his #1 WR.... He literally stares at it a bit longer and then smiles - snaps, pretends to go through his reads away from the WR he already knows is going to be wide open and then just calmly snaps back and throws to the mismatched coverage for an easy and open TD. Quite honestly, I think if that was Kroft instead of Smith, Josh would have made that throw. I don't think Allen would trust Smith to make that catch over Knox or Kroft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, jletha said: where have you seen that claimed? If they knew what we were doing why didnt they stop us? 49ers players said it in post game pressers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said: 1) we tried Lee before, no thanks 2) hes not walking in anywhere his career yards after catch is 3 I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand Walkin' through the streets of Soho in the rain He was lookin' for the place called Lee Ho Fook's Gonna get a big dish of beef chow mein. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Lee Smith. You can only hope to contain him. Daboll might try that one again and make TE the primary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I’m sure he would have caught it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Knowing Lee Smith....he was probably supposed to stay back and block lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 For all the talk of how the niners had coaches better then ours......I didnt see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 There's no phrase I hate more than "wide-*ss open," but yet I feel compelled to utter it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Comparing this to ski ball. Allen missed the 1000 pointer but still at least got 600....I’m good with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 hours ago, sherpa said: Right here. Read the thread started yesterday on this forum. It was started at 9:21AM, and the thread title was: "49ers to a man say they knew what the Bills were going to do on offense, were not surprised but were helpless to stop them" Thats a better sign than suprising them in my opinion. If they went zone they couldnt cover up the holes. If they went man Diggs was open. He ran a 5 yard route and was open by 5 yards at one point. That throw to Davis was a complete heat check throw. It was the equivlent to Steph Curry pulling up from 40ft and draining a 3. Allen having the ability to heat up like that makes Buffalo the biggest threat to KC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Knowing Lee Smith....he was probably supposed to stay back and block lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Rk_Bills86 said: Get used to it - Long time lurker with a bit of free time on my hands i lurked for 8 years before i started posting anything... and a few people around here wish id go back to doing that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Totally open. I still think Josh made the right decision throwing it to Davis though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I was just watching the all-22. On the miss to Lee Smith in the endzone he totally blew it. It was an easy score. He was wide open and should have just stopped in the middle of the endzone with no one really on him. But he waited forever and by the time he looked for the ball he was covered. Josh threw it to where he was hoping Smith would go but he never did. A normal TE has an easy TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Process said: LOL First time I see this angle. The pass to Davis was as impressive a throw you'll see a QB make. Honestly the fact that he made it while he had a guy wide open for a walk in TD makes it even better. I'm glad a blown coverage didn't rob us of that beauty. JA is a baller. The great news? Josh will see that, and he will learn from it! He’s a great, hard working young man. He wants to get better, and he’s proving it on the field, year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 11 hours ago, jletha said: where have you seen that claimed? If they knew what we were doing why didnt they stop us? They did say they knew what we were going to run. And that it was even more frustrating because they couldn't stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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