Call me crazy but I feel like we are gearing up for a deep playoff run...

[Hebert19]

I know there is crazy doom and gloom around here for whatever reason after a win but I am the opposite.  Few interesting stats:

 

1.  Over last 5 games D is allowing 22.8 ppg.  Big improvement.  

 

2.  19 sacks over last 5 games 

 

3.   6 interceptions over last 5 games

 

4.  4 fumble recoveries in last 5

 

5.   Bass 15/18 on FGs in last 5.  1 miss was a late half Hail mary

 

All while the offense is the offense.  Yes they aren't the same without Brown but when they have him they are damm dominant. 

 

Roberts is still roberts as well.  

 

If the D continues their trajectory and the Offense gets healthy this isn't a Doom and Gloom team...this is a team no one wants to face in playoffs.   

 

This is actually a team that could peak in Jan! Just my 2 cents. 

 

[Fleezoid]

 

Are you crazy?!

 

But seriously, we are going into a tough stretch of games. Obviously Pittsburgh. But that game aside, the games against NE, SF and Denver are games I'm paying close attention to. Those are the remaining games that we have as common opponents with Miami. If we stumble and Miami gets even in the standing, it might come down to that tie-breaker. I hope it doesn't get to that. We need to keep at least a 1 game lead and the division record lead to ensure the last game isn't for the division.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Fleezoid

[BreezeMafia]

Agreed.  If we beat SF (I like our chances), our path to 11 wins is much easier.  If we win division, I see at least 1 playoff win.

[ColoradoBills]

@Hebert19,

 

You are crazy if you think you can change the minds of the "doom and gloom" crowd.

I do agree with you that the defense is getting better.

The Bills just maybe, maybe can put it all together by the time the playoffs roll around!

[saundena]

You're crazy. 

 

We are a good team and we will probably win a playoff game, but we are not making a deep playoff run.  We are too inconsistent (a theme we've seen the entire season) and while Josh is playing very good football, he's not playing at the level he did early in the season.  Most of all, I think we lack a killers instinct which will come back to bite us in the playoffs.

 

I like that our defense is improving, but at the same time, it looks like our offense is regressing (especially in the turnover and general sloppiness standpoint).  For a deep run, our defense would need to maintain the way it has since the Seattle game (performed well against high power offenses) while having our offense get back to early season form. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by saundena

[ProcessTruster]

Sure why not.   No one is getting past KC , but every other team is on the table.   Certainly will be super competitive with anyone left on the regular schedule.  Plus, home field advantage means squat with no fans, so playoffs are pretty much neutral field games.   Go get em bills. 

[JaCrispy]

Well, it’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

[Dkollidas]

I think they’re gearing up for a couple tough divisional games to end the season. If they beat New England and Miami, that alone gives them at least 10 wins with a 6-0 record against the AFC East. That would basically crown them the division. 
 

I think the mentality of preparedness amongst the coaches & staff is understood throughout that organization (players, coaches, staff, water boys etc etc).
 

I agree the defense has been really gearing up, and I would say most of that is getting healthy. Edmunds looks like he’s feeling a lot better. Wallace and Norman are healthy, Tre is healthy, and young guys are getting opportunities (Epenesa and D. Johnson dressed while Murphy was benched).

Edited November 30, 2020 by Dkollidas

[thenorthremembers]

I think the Bills ability to win a second round game depends on who ends up with the #1 seed.  If they end up the 4th seed and the first round games end up with favorites as the winners, they almost certainly play KC in the 2nd round.   I like our team, but I dont see anyone stopping the Chiefs this year.  Mahomes is just too good right now.

[Rochesterfan]

Wait this is “un possible”.  
 

I already read on this board that McDermott is not a good coach and can’t compete with the McVay, Tomlin, and Meathead coaches of other teams.

I read that McDermott can’t inspire a team to go out and win.

 

Josh Allen makes way to many mistakes and the team lets everyone just hang around so they can’t win playoff games. 
 

They have had 4 games come down to the last possession unlike teams like KC that have only had 4 games come down to the last possession. (head smacked here)

 

They don’t blow people out and therefore are not prepared for a close game in the playoffs.

 

They don’t step on the throat of their opponents and the Bills let them come back unlike say KC that once up by 17 early in a game would never allow a team to close it down to 3 points at the end.

 

I am sure there are several others posted by the same 3 people over and over why you can’t be right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sarcasm Off 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Rochesterfan

[YattaOkasan]

I agree with the OP. Something feels different to me. No longer wide eyed kids new to the game. They feel hungry. The defense walking off the field at the end of the yesterday had some swagger. I feel we are closer to a deep playoff run than a first round bounce. 

[ngbills]

While I agree that we can have a playoff run. The timing is a bit off coming off this win. Nothing from the last two weeks shouts "now is the time". The team has looked better. We have looked above average on O and average on D lately. Earlier we were dominant on O and bad on D. Allen is in a mini slump - watch the film dont just say how dare you say that. The D is playing slightly better but still not there yet and may never be this season. We need to get back to dominant on O and average to even above average on D for a time is now post. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by ngbills

[Penfield45]

we have improved on defense a lot yes but we still need to focus on stopping the run. 

 

tons of run heavy teams in the AFC...Browns,Ravens, Titans. We also need to improve in the 2nd half of games. we have the worst 2nd half defense in the NFL. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by Penfield45

[TH3]

51 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

Sure why not.   No one is getting past KC , but every other team is on the table.   Certainly will be super competitive with anyone left on the regular schedule.  Plus, home field advantage means squat with no fans, so playoffs are pretty much neutral field games.   Go get em bills. 

 

Exactly...Why not...Plus what is deep? 

 

Win the division and win that home game. Now you are in the final 4 AFC - anyone other than Chiefs would be a coin flip to win....

 

Bills - if healthy - pretty sure no one gonna want to play

[boater]

Deep playoff run? Let's focus on immediate business.

 

With their victory yesterday, the Patsies are on an upswing. They beat the Cardinals, we could not. They may be hopeless in their own playoff seeding. But they are well positioned to be the spoiler for the Bills and the Dolphins. The game in Foxboro will be a mini-playoff game.

 

Miami's schedule has only two losses left: KC, Bills, Patsies ... pick two.

 

8-3 looks pretty haughty today. But this will be a slugfest until the end of the season.

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, saundena said:

You're crazy. 

 

We are a good team and we will probably win a playoff game, but we are not making a deep playoff run.  We are too inconsistent (a theme we've seen the entire season) and while Josh is playing very good football, he's not playing at the level he did early in the season.  Most of all, I think we lack a killers instinct which will come back to bite us in the playoffs.

 

I like that our defense is improving, but at the same time, it looks like our offense is regressing (especially in the turnover and general sloppiness standpoint).  For a deep run, our defense would need to maintain the way it has since the Seattle game (performed well against high power offenses) while having our offense get back to early season form. 

I definitely wouldn't say we are "probably" going to win a playoff game.  We are probably going to play a playoff game.

Winning it will be tough and depending heavily on who we play.  Some potential matchups are better than others.

 

It is going to get really interesting down the stretch following the playoff picture, who is winning which division, what seed we are at the moment, the order of the wild card teams, and so on.  Lots of moving pieces and still too early to really have a feel for it.

 

 

[ProcessTruster]

9 minutes ago, TH3 said:

 

Exactly...Why not...Plus what is deep? 

 

Win the division and win that home game. Now you are in the final 4 AFC - anyone other than Chiefs would be a coin flip to win....

 

Bills - if healthy - pretty sure no one gonna want to play

Amen to the "if healthy" point

[Big Blitz]

We're a stupid ridiculous fluke play from being 9-2.

 

This team can beat anybody.  

[ngbills]

38 minutes ago, boater said:

Deep playoff run? Let's focus on immediate business.

 

With their victory yesterday, the Patsies are on an upswing. They beat the Cardinals, we could not. They may be hopeless in their own playoff seeding. But they are well positioned to be the spoiler for the Bills and the Dolphins. The game in Foxboro will be a mini-playoff game.

 

Miami's schedule has only two losses left: KC, Bills, Patsies ... pick two.

 

8-3 looks pretty haughty today. But this will be a slugfest until the end of the season.

Keep Bills fans away from bridges and sharp objects...

 

Bills go 1-4 down the stretch. Losses to SF, PIT, NE, MIA and beat DEN. End at 9-7.

NE goes 5-0 and beats LAC, LAR, MIA, BUF, and NYJ. They finish at 10-6. 

MIA goes 3-2 beating CIN, LAV, BUF and losing to KC and NE. They finish at 10-6. 

 

NE wins division with tie-breaker over MIA. Bills out of playoffs...

 

Had to edit to add the positive version:

 

Bills go 4-1 down the stretch. Loss to PIT and beat SF, DEN, NE, MIA. End at 12-4.

NE goes 1-4 and beats NYJ but losses to LAC, LAR, MIA, BUF. They finish at 6-10. 

MIA goes 3-2 beating CIN, LAV, NE and losing to KC and BUF. They finish at 10-6. (If MIA loses to LAV then they beat the Bills 3rd stringers).

 

Bills win division and NE gets a top 10 draft pick. 

 

Edited November 30, 2020 by ngbills

[dma0034]

17 minutes ago, boater said:

Deep playoff run? Let's focus on immediate business.

 

With their victory yesterday, the Patsies are on an upswing. They beat the Cardinals, we could not. They may be hopeless in their own playoff seeding. But they are well positioned to be the spoiler for the Bills and the Dolphins. The game in Foxboro will be a mini-playoff game.

 

Miami's schedule has only two losses left: KC, Bills, Patsies ... pick two.

 

8-3 looks pretty haughty today. But this will be a slugfest until the end of the season.

 

I mean a fluke play that wins them a game. The Cards also missed a FG right before NE kicked on to win.

 

Also the Dolphins play @Raiders as well. They could easily lose that game too. Only team left that they will beat is the Bengals

[boater]

1 minute ago, dma0034 said:

 

I mean a fluke play that wins them a game. The Cards also missed a FG right before NE kicked on to win.

 

Also the Dolphins play @Raiders as well. They could easily lose that game too. Only team left that they will beat is the Bengals

I want you to be right.

[wjag]

1 hour ago, Dkollidas said:

I think they’re gearing up for a couple tough divisional games to end the season. If they beat New England and Miami, that alone gives them at least 10 wins with a 6-0 record against the AFC East. That would basically crown them the division. 
 

I think the mentality of preparedness amongst the coaches & staff is understood throughout that organization (players, coaches, staff, water boys etc etc).
 

I agree the defense has been really gearing up, and I would say most of that is getting healthy. Edmunds looks like he’s feeling a lot better. Wallace and Norman are healthy, Tre is healthy, and young guys are getting opportunities (Epenesa and D. Johnson dressed while Murphy was benched).

 

I don't think Buffalo ever swept the AFC East..  Even in the early 90s.  Good year to start.

[nedboy7]

I am not willing to make any rash decisions about this team until 7 minutes into the next game.  At that time I will let everyone know on the game day thread which players suck and if we will ever win another game with this awful coach, offense and defense. 

[BillsFanSD]

22 minutes ago, boater said:

With their victory yesterday, the Patsies are on an upswing. They beat the Cardinals, we could not.

First of all, there's no such thing as transitivity in football.  Just because NE beat ARI but we lost to ARI does not imply that NE is better than us.

 

Second, really?  You're using the fluke result of the Arizona game as a negative data point?  Come on, man.

[DuckyBoys]

Things seems to be pointing in the right trajectory.  Defense seems to be improving and getting back being disruptive and attacking.  Offense still trying to play a game where both the run and pass are effective.  Special teams seems very buttoned up, kicker is on fire and confident.  Can Josh step into a playoff game and avoid his sugar high moments?  Its a  fun ride and sure beats talking about draft picks by week 10

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Keep Bills fans away from bridges and sharp objects...

 

Bills go 1-4 down the stretch. Losses to SF, PIT, NE, MIA and beat DEN. End at 9-7.

NE goes 5-0 and beats LAC, LAR, MIA, BUF, and NYJ. They finish at 10-6. 

MIA goes 3-2 beating CIN, LAV, BUF and losing to KC and NE. They finish at 10-6. 

 

NE wins division with tie-breaker over MIA. Bills out of playoffs...

 

Had to edit to add the positive version:

 

Bills go 3-2 down the stretch. Losses to SF, PIT and beat DEN, NE, MIA. End at 11-5.

NE goes 1-4 and beats NYJ but losses to LAC, LAR, MIA, BUF, and NYJ. They finish at 6-10. 

MIA goes 3-2 beating CIN, LAV, NE and losing to KC and BUF. They finish at 10-6. 

 

Bills win division and NE gets a top 10 draft pick. 

 

Pats going 3-0 in that rams-dolphins-bills stretch is extremely doubtful...its just as likely the jets get their one win of the season against the pats lol how does your positive version have us losing a game were favored to win and Miami beating the raiders haha 

I wouldnt be surprised if the pats magical run at winning out ends against the chargers next week 🤣

[ngbills]

11 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Pats going 3-0 in that rams-dolphins-bills stretch is extremely doubtful...its just as likely the jets get their one win of the season against the pats lol how does your positive version have us losing a game were favored to win and Miami beating the raiders haha 

I wouldnt be surprised if the pats magical run at winning out ends against the chargers next week 🤣

Should have called it a more positive version. You are right if all goes well Bills finish up 4-1. Ideally Bills have it wrapped by week 17 and have a meaningless game. 

[thurst44]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

Sure why not.   No one is getting past KC , but every other team is on the table.   Certainly will be super competitive with anyone left on the regular schedule.  Plus, home field advantage means squat with no fans, so playoffs are pretty much neutral field games.   Go get em bills. 

And any given Sunday, someone could get past KC. Juggernaut teams don't ALWAYS win the Super Bowl. We all know what happened to the 16-0 Patriots and the 15-1 1988 Vikings and 2005 Steelers did not even make it that far. KC has won its last three games by 3, 4, and 2, and the 2 was against a Panthers team that had lost three in a row going into that game. They only beat the Bills by an almost identical score to the one many fans here are bemoaning was not enough against the Chargers. Chiefs are a great team, but they are hardly invincible. 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Honestly with the playoffs you just gotta get in the mix and then catch fire at the right time.  The consensus pick only wins like 30% of the time.  Whoever thought the Nick Foles Eagles would win the SB or the '07 Giants?

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

@Hebert19,

 

You are crazy if you think you can change the minds of the "doom and gloom" crowd.

I do agree with you that the defense is getting better.

The Bills just maybe, maybe can put it all together by the time the playoffs roll around!

 

The "doom and gloom" crowd are on a ledge.

 

Jump! Jump! Jump!

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

Wait this is “un possible”.  
 

I already read on this board that McDermott is not a good coach and can’t compete with the McVay, Tomlin, and Meathead coaches of other teams.

I read that McDermott can’t inspire a team to go out and win.

 

Josh Allen makes way to many mistakes and the team lets everyone just hang around so they can’t win playoff games. 
 

They have had 4 games come down to the last possession unlike teams like KC that have only had 4 games come down to the last possession. (head smacked here)

 

They don’t blow people out and therefore are not prepared for a close game in the playoffs.

 

They don’t step on the throat of their opponents and the Bills let them come back unlike say KC that once up by 17 early in a game would never allow a team to close it down to 3 points at the end.

 

I am sure there are several others posted by the same 3 people over and over why you can’t be right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sarcasm Off 

 

Put more on ignore although the board software does not always work.

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

The "doom and gloom" crowd are on a ledge.

 

Jump! Jump! Jump!

 

Put more on ignore although the board software does not always work.

 

I recently (the last few weeks) have started to use the ignore function myself.  I have 2 on the list and after reading a thread today I am considering a third.

Yes it does not always work right.  One thing I noticed is that I had do it multiple times to "take".

I really didn't want to resort to that but this place gets worse the more the Bills win.

 

I wonder if the Mods or @SDS are aware of this?

[Punching Bag]

12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I recently (the last few weeks) have started to use the ignore function myself.  I have 2 on the list and after reading a thread today I am considering a third.

Yes it does not always work right.  One thing I noticed is that I had do it multiple times to "take".

I really didn't want to resort to that but this place gets worse the more the Bills win.

 

I wonder if the Mods or @SDS are aware of this?

 

The gloomers? yes. At least one MOD is one.

 

The software seems to have issues when site gets busy.  Ignored players are moved to left rather than hidden in Chrome.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This team is not built for the playoffs. Let me add that the defense is coming around and getting healthy. OL and run game needs to be better. Bills just aren't a playoff ready team right now. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[ngbills]

2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

The gloomers? yes. At least one MOD is one.

 

The software seems to have issues when site gets busy.  Ignored players are moved to left rather than hidden in Chrome.

 

16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I recently (the last few weeks) have started to use the ignore function myself.  I have 2 on the list and after reading a thread today I am considering a third.

Yes it does not always work right.  One thing I noticed is that I had do it multiple times to "take".

I really didn't want to resort to that but this place gets worse the more the Bills win.

 

I wonder if the Mods or @SDS are aware of this?

 

35 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

The "doom and gloom" crowd are on a ledge.

 

Jump! Jump! Jump!

 

Put more on ignore although the board software does not always work.

What is a gloomer? I wonder what I am called...

 

I tend to side with the analytical and what I would consider rational thoughts. I dont to hear this team is going to blow it because they are the Bills and thats what they do. I also dont want to here Beane is a magician after signing Bill Jenkins from the AFL.

 

It can be hard to have an honest conversation on these boards. A last minute loss to AZ in a game we should have won and sloppy win vs LAC should lead to some "where is this team" discussion.  I am excited for the SF and PIT games because I think they will be telling about what kind of team this is. This year feels wide open despite KC and PIT records. We are a team that can score which means any playoff game is winnable. What will beat this team is keeping the ball away from them via long drives. This D will need to step it up and show it can stop good teams from having multiple 8+ min TD drives. 

[ALLEN1QB]

Crazy

[njbuff]

I only care about beating SF on a neutral field right now.

[Don Otreply]

I know this will come across as sounding just like me, but, what the hell else would they be doing? Really,  They sure aren’t planning a family picnic... 😁👍 all we gotta do is win two games max, and we are in the post season, fish and pats, every thing else is gravy on the mashed potatoes... I for one feel enormously positive about the remainder of this season.

 

Go Bills!!! 

[Buffalo Boy]

    Winning is a habit, as is losing. This team is in the habit of winning. 
     One thing this team has going for it is Playoff experience. You think Josh and company like the taste of that loss last year?

Get this team into the Playoffs and we have a great chance of going deep. It IS a new season and anything can happen.
 

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    Winning is a habit, as is losing. This team is in the habit of winning. 
     One thing this team has going for it is Playoff experience. You think Josh and company like the taste of that loss last year?

Get this team into the Playoffs and we have a great chance of going deep. It IS a new season and anything can happen.

 

My worries is we get in playoffs, team takes care of themselves well and a team like Ravens or Titans is our opponent and they do not take care again.

 

Are playoff games gong to be rescheduled or postponed?

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, ngbills said:

 

 

What is a gloomer? I wonder what I am called...

 

I tend to side with the analytical and what I would consider rational thoughts. I dont to hear this team is going to blow it because they are the Bills and thats what they do. I also dont want to here Beane is a magician after signing Bill Jenkins from the AFL.

 

It can be hard to have an honest conversation on these boards. A last minute loss to AZ in a game we should have won and sloppy win vs LAC should lead to some "where is this team" discussion.  I am excited for the SF and PIT games because I think they will be telling about what kind of team this is. This year feels wide open despite KC and PIT records. We are a team that can score which means any playoff game is winnable. What will beat this team is keeping the ball away from them via long drives. This D will need to step it up and show it can stop good teams from having multiple 8+ min TD drives. 

 

Yes it is getting hard to have constructive conversation lately.

I personally have changed my opinion on football fandom lately.  That's just me.  I want to enjoy it more for what it is and tend not to get too upset over

things I would of in the past.

 

I got no problem with fans discussing "negative" (for the sake of a better word) issues and that's not who I started "ignoring".  It's more the "trolls" who

know they can rile posters up by their incessant negativity that gets me.  To be fair there is some of that in the reverse too.

I'm a middle of the road kind of guy and I come here for 2 main purposes.  One to get the latest Bills/NFL news along with some good football talk and

the second reason is for some Buffalo Bills fan friendship.  I don't derail other board members conversations that I don't want to be a part of but I do

expect the same respect when It comes to me.

 

I believe the board would be a little better is everyone just let other fans be the fans they want to be.