Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Any player with the ball can "give himself up" in the field of play. Tre White did it last year after an interception. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. Edited November 11, 2020 by SoCal Deek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? I liked the move. I agree it is not often that you see that, but one could say that Beasley does the same at times when he catches the ball and kind of purposely tumbles/pulls forward after the catch, takes minimal contact on the ground. I was happy to see Diggs do it rather than take a hit. Smart football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Marvin Harrison used to do this. He never took big hits in his career and probably why he was so good so long. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. He was bored with their corners. Seattle reporter kept mentioning he was toying with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Yes it was a life saving move. They need to do it more so they don't get banged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. As I understand it's just another move in the arsenal to make guys miss. If you're running full bore it's hard on the joints and muscles to change speed (or change direction) suddenly but putting some air under your steps changes your speed and also allows a directional shift with less joint impact. I'm pretty sure Coach approves and may even be teaching it. Diggs is an artist and he was having fun out there. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He was bored with their corners. Seattle reporter kept mentioning he was toying with them. That’s exactly the way I read it too...but it was still pretty darn odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: As I understand it's just another move in the arsenal to make guys miss. Yeah, ive seen motor do it a bunch too. its just to set a guy up for a juke. Like faking a cutback and then explode forward past him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. High stepping gives you the set up to hit a quick juke...he's not showboating. 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? I feel like Marvin Harrison used to do this fairly often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Was a smart play. No need to risk an injury at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 The high stepping is not a showboat move. It's to change gears, going at one speed, slows down which causes the defender to slow down and gives him the opportunity to accelerate after the slow down and to go by the defender. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I feel like Marvin Harrison used to do this fairly often Plagiarism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: High stepping gives you the set up to hit a quick juke...he's not showboating. Was common in the 80’s: they’re just bringing it back. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I don't care which receiver it is. Please just slide. We can't risk injury. No Earl Campbell's please! Josh this means you too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. He can high step all he wants putting up those numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: Yeah, ive seen motor do it a bunch too. its just to set a guy up for a juke. Like faking a cutback and then explode forward past him. Yes that’s what I thought of - it almost freezes the defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I remember Chris Carter did this a few times pretty much every game. And Randy Moss started doing it also when they played together. I'm okay with it when there's 3-4 guys there. Less punishment to your body and no risk of fumble. Robert Woods got stripped a few times trying to power through defenders. But he's f$#@ing crazy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I think it was a smart move. I remember that play quite well. He would have taken an unnecessary hit if he didn’t go down and wasn’t going to get any further than where he was. We need Diggs healthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 50 years ago a running back was a wimp if he ran out of bounds to avoid a hit. Happens all the time now. I've seen other receivers give themselves up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Remember all the shots Diggs took in Week 1? He surely does, and wouldn't finish the season if that was every game. Smart move to avoid getting hit by the 4 Sehawks closing in around him. He's got to be available to keep coming up with catches all game. He's being going out of bounds when it's the smart thing to do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? It was my thought that Diggs had a choice of getting gang tackled by four opponents and gaining no more yards, or sliding for the same yards gained and not get his clock cleaned, imo it was a astute move by Diggs. Go Bills!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 37 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. I thought the same - not like that mini high step was gaining him anything....nothing at all was gained. He can keep that for when he is crossing the goal line.....then? High Step all ya want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I thought honestly he expected a hit and as he slid kinda realized oh crap I couldve kept going. To me I was trying to figure out what the heck the Seahawks were doing there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: High stepping gives you the set up to hit a quick juke...he's not showboating. Hmmm - I learned something today - THANKS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Diggs' play this season has earned him the right to act with discretion on a play like that with defenders all around him. Who knows, maybe he avoided a strip fumble on the play because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kwai San said: Hmmm - I learned something today - THANKS!!!! Yup it’s like throwing a change up. He slows down and it naturally makes defenders slow down and get on their toes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. At worst that could open him up to a taunting penalty. Can't say if that has ever been called, but if there is a first time it would be against the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yeah but what was up with the high stepping he was doing out there on a couple of plays? That was a bit odd. Not sure Coach wants him doing that. Singleterry also does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Diggs was obviously having fun out there Sunday. The guy was an amazing pickup and and gets better every week. So glad he's a Buffalo Bill wooooohooo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/every-stefon-diggs-catch-from-his-118-yard-game-week-9 about 50 seconds in. Diggs makes the catch for the first down, gains about 10 yds RAC, and finishes up with a nifty slide. 4 SeaSnakes defenders are closing on him when he slides and they're all like standing around looking a bit confused. I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. I don't remember if I've ever seen a WR do this. I guess I thought the "player who gives himself up" and slides rule only applies to QBs, because after all football is a tough game where usually players take pride in fighting for every yard. But of course we had a good lead at the time and Diggs had just gained another 10 or so YAC. I didn't know what to think at the time but I decided it's smart savvy football. Diggs is tough and will make those contested catches where he knows he's going to get hammered and fight for every yard when he needs it; why shouldn't he save his body and slide or go out of bounds when he can? Plus of course he's in the redzone, and if they managed to hold him up and strip the ball it could turn the game. I was just surprised at the time. I can't recall seeing another WR do this Thoughts? Play safe, keep the clock running with 5 minutes to go in the 2nd QTR and if hit draw a flag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I was a little surprised at the time, as well. But, two things struck me: 1) I completely trust Diggs' instincts, and if he thought there were no more yards to gain there, then that's his decision. We've seen him fight for yards, and put his body on the line enough to know he's no coward. And 2) Thank you, Diggs for protecting your body. If there's one guy on offense (other than Allen) that we want to remain as healthy as possible, it's Diggs. So, yeah. Smart football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 It can be a weak b*tch move, but there were 4 guys coming down hard on him, unblocked. I didn't find anything odd TBH. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Very smart move. I said so in the Shoutbox at the time. No need to take an unnecessary hit to gain an extra yard or two when you've already got the first down and then some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think on some teams, a few of them would hit Diggs anyway and take their chances that the refs wouldn't call it. Thoughts? At worst it would be a Personal Foul, hit on a defenseless player rule since the WR has "given himself up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) I feel like I've seen it pretty often. A reasonable move as long as the next few yards are not important, and in this case they weren't. I wouldn't consider it so much a savvy play as just a way to cut down on wear and tear. He's a crucial part of our offense. Makes sense. Edited November 11, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Fighting through tackles takes a lot of energy. I'd rather he not try to take four defenders on and save it for the one he ends up taking to the house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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