Big Turk Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Feliciano stated that the huge play to Brown on that 3rd and 16 where Allen threw the WR screen and Brown raced down to the 2 was an audible from Josh because he noticed an all out pressure coming and saw the DB playing way off Brown. We have heard several other times this year about great checks Allen has made at the line that have resulted in big plays but perhaps none was bigger than this one to really put a dagger in Seattle's attempted comeback at that point in the game. Seeing Allen's maturation and him making great checks based on the film study and preparation and understanding of what is going on is great to see and he is only scratching the surface of his potential... 33 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Nice to know. I didn't catch that live and the announcers gave credit to Daboll for the play call. That's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 so help me out here. which games did allen where the left arm brace? cause that seems to have been the reason for his problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 IT'S ALL HAPPENING!!! 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 He is in total command of this offense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Another audible appeared to be the TD to Davis...Where he initially at least faked for running in by himself and then did a double pump and threw to a wide open Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 One of my favorite moments of the season. Josh in the close up because it’s a critical 3rd down and he yells “Gold whip” twice. I’ve been watching close this season and I jumped out of my seat. Told my brother in law that a WR screen was coming and it’s gonna be good. When they went to the wide angle I found Brown right away and then boom sauce. That was a lot of fun. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so help me out here. which games did allen where the left arm brace? cause that seems to have been the reason for his problems Every game since the Raiders game. Removed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Plano said: Every game since the Raiders game. Removed yesterday. Yup. If you watch any videos from those games you can see the black sleeve on his left shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, ganesh said: Another audible appeared to be the TD to Davis...Where he initially at least faked for running in by himself and then did a double pump and threw to a wide open Davis. i couldn’t tell if that play was designed to be a pass, or a RPO, or was Josh improvising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so help me out here. which games did allen where the left arm brace? cause that seems to have been the reason for his problems Hasselbeck said he had a similar brace on and his throws were off during time, which could of been why josh wasnt as good weeks prior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, Worstcaseontario said: Hasselbeck said he had a similar brace on and his throws were off during time, which could of been why josh wasnt as good weeks prior Possible the brace held that arm tight to his body and screwed up his mechanics slightly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, DJB said: Nice to know. I didn't catch that live and the announcers gave credit to Daboll for the play call. That's awesome! It was one of two options Daboll called. Josh correctly diagnosed the defense and audibled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Worstcaseontario said: Hasselbeck said he had a similar brace on and his throws were off during time, which could of been why josh wasnt as good weeks prior Yep .. I posted this on the post game thread ... Hasselbeck actually predicted Josh would excel today as he should be recovered. Mentioned when wearing the brace you tend to float it high he starts a little after me the 2 minute mark 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmu1977 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Red Ryan just said josh has been playing with a separated shoulder, first I heard that... anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Plano said: Every game since the Raiders game. Removed yesterday. thank you. and sorry for hijacking the thread lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 49 minutes ago, aristocrat said: so help me out here. which games did allen where the left arm brace? cause that seems to have been the reason for his problems He's been wearing a brace since the Raiders game. In Tenn, it was a big contraption almost analogous to what Milano was wearing. In KC, he was wearing the same and in frustration took it off in the 4th Q. You could see him on the sidelines vehemently shaking his head at a trainer (who presumably wanted him to put it back on). Against the Jets, he was wearing a smaller, less restrictive brace over kinesotape. You can see it in the Bills PR photo day of the Jets game here: Against the Patriots, I couldn't see a brace visible, but Bangedup says he's still wearing one - it may be a still less bulky and less restrictive one that fits under his clothes. It may also have been one reason for the run-heavy gameplan vs. the Pats. I didn't see one this week, in practice or in the game - he may still have been taped. I know from personal experience that a good PT can do more with tape than many braces can achieve, and the right tape and spray products will produce a tape job that will hold against sweat and showers. You can search Dr Kyle Trimble's blog for mentions of Allen, newest weeks first. https://bangedupbills.com/ 10 minutes ago, dbmu1977 said: Red Ryan just said josh has been playing with a separated shoulder, first I heard that... anyone else? It's been visible and Bangedupbills has talked about it on his blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Feliciano stated that the huge play to Brown on that 3rd and 16 where Allen threw the WR screen and Brown raced down to the 2 was an audible from Josh because he noticed an all out pressure coming and saw the DB playing way off Brown. We have heard several other times this year about great checks Allen has made at the line that have resulted in big plays but perhaps none was bigger than this one to really put a dagger in Seattle's attempted comeback at that point in the game. Seeing Allen's maturation and him making great checks based on the film study and preparation and understanding of what is going on is great to see and he is only scratching the surface of his potential... I missed that Josh was the reason for that call, as I gave credit to Daboll in my other recap. It was a perfect call for the moment and Josh delivered the throw on the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Wow - if this is true about JA and his shoulder....man. Just man! Bring on those Cards!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) I literally yelled out "thats the perfect play call!" Thought it was Daboll but holy crap what a great check. Edited November 9, 2020 by thenorthremembers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It has been a major improvement in Josh this year. They have given him more control at the line and he has done a much better job of checking into the right play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Feliciano stated that the huge play to Brown on that 3rd and 16 where Allen threw the WR screen and Brown raced down to the 2 was an audible from Josh because he noticed an all out pressure coming and saw the DB playing way off Brown. We have heard several other times this year about great checks Allen has made at the line that have resulted in big plays but perhaps none was bigger than this one to really put a dagger in Seattle's attempted comeback at that point in the game. This has now happened on multiple occasions this season where the opposing team appears to be getting momentum and we come right back on O to kill it and effectively put the game away. This point cannot be over-emphasized - it is critical to break the other team's will at certain points of the game. The play you noted yesterday was my literal jump out of my couch moment. Exhilarating to say the least. Daboll and Allen seem to be fully in sync now and having our full complement of WRs is extremely important as Diggs, Beas, Brown and Davis take their turns making key plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I noticed the audible and new right away it was a screen to Brown. Same as the Pats game I believe, just different words, last time he called Tornado, this time was something Gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Feliciano stated that the huge play to Brown on that 3rd and 16 where Allen threw the WR screen and Brown raced down to the 2 was an audible from Josh because he noticed an all out pressure coming and saw the DB playing way off Brown. We have heard several other times this year about great checks Allen has made at the line that have resulted in big plays but perhaps none was bigger than this one to really put a dagger in Seattle's attempted comeback at that point in the game. Seeing Allen's maturation and him making great checks based on the film study and preparation and understanding of what is going on is great to see and he is only scratching the surface of his potential... Great point! I thought the same thing. It's crazy to me how much lazy analysis there is by guys getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do just that-analyze! Huard was alright yesterday, not as bad as most, with the Allen narrative being mostly positive and pointing out the shoulder injury jmpact. kudos to Hasselbeck as well. Then you have clowns like Bradshaw et al, who make statements like 50% in college,50% in the pros. He's inaccurate, inconsistent....yadda yadda yadda They leave out the part about didn't like the draft pick and I haven't bothered to do any analysis since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Great point! I thought the same thing. It's crazy to me how much lazy analysis there is by guys getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do just that-analyze! Huard was alright yesterday, not as bad as most, with the Allen narrative being mostly positive and pointing out the shoulder injury jmpact. kudos to Hasselbeck as well. Then you have clowns like Bradshaw et al, who make statements like 50% in college,50% in the pros. He's inaccurate, inconsistent....yadda yadda yadda They leave out the part about didn't like the draft pick and I haven't bothered to do any analysis since. Bradshaw could only dream about being as good as Allen already is... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I heard Josh say, "Hey.. hey.. Gold Whip.. Gold Whip" (or something along those lines) ... I'd have to assume it was an audible or at least one of the two plays called in the huddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Great point! I thought the same thing. It's crazy to me how much lazy analysis there is by guys getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do just that-analyze! Huard was alright yesterday, not as bad as most, with the Allen narrative being mostly positive and pointing out the shoulder injury jmpact. kudos to Hasselbeck as well. Then you have clowns like Bradshaw et al, who make statements like 50% in college,50% in the pros. He's inaccurate, inconsistent....yadda yadda yadda They leave out the part about didn't like the draft pick and I haven't bothered to do any analysis since. Bradshaw is, was and always will be a joke. His comments pre-game yesterday proved that. No consideration of the weather, game plan, etc. , just Josh Allen is back to his old form, inaccurate blah blah blah. I have dealt with a shoulder injury, not claiming to be any sort of expert, but it screws with everything you do, much less trying to go out and play QB in the NFL. I have no inclination to think it didn’t have an effect on him throwing the ball. All that said, Josh had a really good day yesterday and yes it came against a poor D, but he actually executed. He missed one play where the announcers pointed out he had a chance to go to Beasley underneath and get a first down and I don’t recall who it was, but on the same side of the field there was a guy who was open deep. He hesitated and got taken down and the series was over. That was about the only “bad” play he had. Yesterday was very encouraging. Next week the D will be much stronger, hopefully he brings the same game and can put up points again. Also for the love of God I hope they spy Murry, he’s obnoxiously fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Star Lord!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 That throw to Beasley running for his life rolling to the right for 20 yards was another of those Rodgers-esque throws he has made this year. Right on the money. The young man is growing up right before our very eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5th in the NFL in pass attempts. 3rd in the NFL in yards. 6th in the NFL in completion % 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordBills Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, Antonio said: I noticed the audible and new right away it was a screen to Brown. Same as the Pats game I believe, just different words, last time he called Tornado, this time was something Gold. Yep vs the Pats it was "Gold Tornado". Yesterday it was "Gold Whip". He might need a new audible without the word "gold" in it 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 One thing I noticed in general was that he was really taking his time to look over what the defense was doing, and seemed to often delay the count when he saw a potential blitz. They still got to him a lot, but it just looked like he bought extra time on a few key plays w/ that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmu1977 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Josh is fire and having smoke Brown on field just gives defenses fits, he makes huge difference to the passing game. Stefan Rings was such good move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i couldn’t tell if that play was designed to be a pass, or a RPO, or was Josh improvising. Almost certain it was by design. Florida and Tebow ran that play all the time around the goal line. With Allen's threat to run the ball it is a great play call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Almost certain it was by design. Florida and Tebow ran that play all the time around the goal line. With Allen's threat to run the ball it is a great play call It was a seriously brilliant play call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Not only in his maturity to move to the correct call, but even after a phenomenal game - he took blame for not adjusting faster to the Seahawks looks as they blitzed him. He came out and said he missed a few calls and recognized it and that got them into the right plays later. It is great to see him continue to recognize these things in game now and make adjustments. In year 1 - it would take a few games to see things enough and make adjustments and it was mostly done by the coaches. In year 2 - he started seeing things, but the adjustments were few and far between - leading to games like NE last year. After that he took it to heart and adjustments have been coming faster and faster and even in game. The Seahawks game went from mid-deep intermediate patters for big gains - to multiple screens and shorter passes after they blitzed to force them out of that. Great job by Josh and Daboll to get to this point. Edited November 9, 2020 by Rochesterfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: so help me out here. which games did allen where the left arm brace? cause that seems to have been the reason for his problems 1 hour ago, Worstcaseontario said: Hasselbeck said he had a similar brace on and his throws were off during time, which could of been why josh wasnt as good weeks prior I'm sure the brace was part of it, but they also had two bad weather games, and they also played two of the best teams in the NFL during that stretch. I do not think it is accurate to pin everything on Josh's shoulder. There were a couple of INT's he threw that were clearly a result of decision making, not innaccuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, WatfordBills said: Yep vs the Pats it was "Gold Tornado". Yesterday it was "Gold Whip". He might need a new audible without the word "gold" in it Gold finger..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, WatfordBills said: Yep vs the Pats it was "Gold Tornado". Yesterday it was "Gold Whip". He might need a new audible without the word "gold" in it It was Gold solo rip (maybe whip) in the Jets game. I was thinking about this yesterday but I think were ok. Its an audible for a Cover 0 blitz. Thats hard to check out of and the throw is going to the WR with a defender playing off coverage it looks like (usually Brown cause youre gonna press beasley) so youre not alerting a guy directly defending the play. Thus, I think we might be ok. My biggest fear would be the press player going to brown and making an impact play (like a pick). Otherwise maybe a rusher or that CB recognizes and makes the play for a small gain only which wouldnt be the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, WatfordBills said: Yep vs the Pats it was "Gold Tornado". Yesterday it was "Gold Whip". He might need a new audible without the word "gold" in it Bills Brass better have someone scoping the boards! Lets not get outcoached because we are lazy changing up audibles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 32 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Gold finger..... ' golden eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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