Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Some good points but disappointingly focused on the Patriots and then at the end it's all Brady vs Belicheck. Don't listen if you're not strong of stomach. He doesn't give the Bills D any props for slowing the Patriots, and I must admit we didn't shut them down. Doesn't know Zimmer's name, though he does get it prompted to him and apologizes. He does give McDermott credit for getting the run game going so there's that. I was disappointed because he was so strong about "the Bills can't stop the run or run the ball, they're going to lose" and he didn't walk it back at all. He also didn't note that we overcame some stuff that I thought was remarkable, like losing our starting center on the 3rd play of the game and "next man up!" so flawlessly on OL. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... I can’t agree with that...the Patriots at no point in this game lead...we didn’t shut them down, that’s for sure, but it’s still Belichick, and he sold out to stop the pass, and we beat them with the run. Certainly not a resounding win, but a win. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 This is the bigger story and will be until the end of the season....Brady v Bilicheat....it always will be....im just so very happy to see the cheats at 2-5.....oh yeah and seeing Superman Cam crying on the bench..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 We played like dog ***** against a patchwork patriot team that has a qb that cant throw a football and we should have lost. Minus saying we won....there is nothing else positive about this win. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... No. The Bills did in fact win the game 24-21. 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: we should have lost. What does this even mean? 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... Whats new? Miami is the best team in the AFC-East and the Bills continue to get no respect. The bills NEVER Get credit for winning anything=P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: We played like dog ***** against a patchwork patriot team that has a qb that cant throw a football and we should have lost. Minus saying we won....there is nothing else positive about this win. former MVP can't throw a football? Got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Was Bellichick outsmarting or outcoaching McDermott when he called for that onside kick? Which gave the Bills a short field, and lead to a Bills touchdown drive! Is the national media talking about that?! Edited November 3, 2020 by Mark Vader 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... Yep and back in a recent Super Bowl Seattle lost a game to the Pats that the Pats didn't deserve to win yet we still count that as a NE Super Bowl win. And just this year Seattle didn't beat NE the Pats lost because they couldn't score at the end of the game from the Seahawk's 1 yard line. If the Bills win the next 2 games the national media will be singing an entirely different tune. That's why it's a waste of time to worry about what they say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Yet that's not the national narrative and Bills fans are whinning about it. Good example of how you win matters for gaining national respect. Now, national respect doesn't matter in terms of making the playoff's, but fans sure seem to care about it... I could care less about national respect. McBeane needs to find a way to fix the weaknesses on this team in a hurry or we'll never compete with the upper echelon teams (Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, Seahawks). We still haven't won a statement game since McDermott has gotten here. If we win one then the national respect will come. We have a chance next Sunday. Edited November 3, 2020 by Doc Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: former MVP can't throw a football? Got it! Not to mention, it was our best running performance of the year. 🤷🏼♂️ Makes you wonder what some people’s home lives are like. The satisfaction must be 100% at all times or I’m leaving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: No, because Belichick has 7 SB rings and McDermott has yet to win a playoff game... Exactly! So the sports media can go screw themselves! Bellichick made a bone headed decision in the game and it cost his team points. That is the truth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... And if the Patriots won the game in the same fashion they'd be going on about the Belichick coached defense making the play when they had to. The Bills won a close division game. Period end of statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Plays like that when they work are "genius", when they fail, oh boy... And it failed BIG TIME 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels Not So Golden Now Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 It's not how you win that matters. It's how many you win that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... Who cares. More than a few times that was the case during the last 20 years for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... I am with you there. And at the same time if we were the steelers or chiefs they would give us more even footing saying we made a play and give it a little less bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Yep, so this tells you past performance matters. Not many people want to stick their necks out. Look at Orlovsky and his early season Allen MVP talk, he's being made fun of that and looks foolish. Many people in the media don't want to risk their careers and credibility by looking foolish. But man some posters love to look foolish talking about being out coached, national credibility, and a bunch of other garbage with nothing to really back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The way the Bills won the game yesterday is exactly how the Pats would of beat the Bills. Some no name defensive player makes a play and seals the win. The Pats were already going to at least tie the game, and it looked like NE was going to score a TD. So no, the Bills did what they had to do to win a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Many talking heads picked a 2-4 team to beat a 5-2 team because Belichick has been McDermott's daddy, they were almost right so they chose to report the game as the Pats blowing it. If the Bills would have stomped them like they should have the national narrative would be different today. It's not rocket science. Looks like you're the one stuck with the daddy issues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: The way the Bills won the game yesterday is exactly how the Pats would of beat the Bills. Some no name defensive player makes a play and seals the win. The Pats were already going to at least tie the game, and it looked like NE was going to score a TD. So no, the Bills did what they had to do to win a game. That McKelvin fumbled return haunts me to this day. Edited November 3, 2020 by Sharky7337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Was Bellichick outsmarting or outcoaching McDermott when he called for that onside kick? Which gave the Bills a short field, and lead to a Bills touchdown drive! Is the national media talking about that?! Not that I heard of. But I have 21 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Was Bellichick outsmarting or outcoaching McDermott when he called for that onside kick? Which gave the Bills a short field, and lead to a Bills touchdown drive! Is the national media talking about that?! Not that I heard of. But I have Wtf? I guess it needed to be said twice Edited November 3, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 W b!tches! We are on to Seattle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Doesn't know Zimmer's name, though he does get it prompted to him and apologizes. Have not read the entire thread...apologies. Do we expect him to know Zim’s name? Do we expect the national media to care about Buffalo? If we do, we should not: we’ve been irrelevant for 21 of the last 23 years. There have been numerous examples of him giving praise to Josh and our O prior to us sucking again (Oh no! We suck again!!!! 😃). Let’s all grow some thicker skin as recognize that we have been inept or worse for a LONG time. Prove we’re otherwise before we expect something different from the national media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The “ National Media” can kiss my Bills Loving Arse!!!! Who cares what they think? I’ll take 8 more “ Wins” we should have lost that the National Media doesn’t give us credit for to finish this season, Thank you very much😈 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedbuffaloblue Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, JPP said: This is the bigger story and will be until the end of the season....Brady v Bilicheat....it always will be....im just so very happy to see the cheats at 2-5.....oh yeah and seeing Superman Cam crying on the bench..... Definitely loved seeing Cam sitting there crying after the fumble. During that last carry he was probably too concerned about what stupid TD celebration he was going to perform instead of making sure he was carrying the ball in the correct hand and securing the ball. Could also have been that imaginary hand sanitizer he was using after his first TD made his hands too slippery to hang onto the ball, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: No, because Belichick has 7 SB rings and McDermott has yet to win a playoff game... 8 if you count all his coordinator time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 So now the wins aren't convincing enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I disagree, many Bills fans look to national media for validation but when they don't find it they complain that it's not fair, when in reality it's quite rational. When the Bills win playoff games for many consecutive seasons the national take on them will change. The OP was very rational in asking for accurate analysis and player name recognition from a guy who's job it is to analyze and know names, lol Time to dismount the high horse disown your daddy, Gene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Pretty much all the non-Bills NFL fans around the country. Narratives get parroted, in fact it's likely everyone here does it with national news about all other NFL teams not named the Buffalo Bills. Their opinion and yours are the opinions of people who don’t matter. We beat NE in a demoralizing fashion for THEM , not us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 We didn't really slow down the patriots offense, they were a few yards from winning the game. we did in the 1st half but defense was embarrassing in the 2nd half. That was the worst patriots team in 20+ years and this is the best bills team in 2 decades and the game came down to a fumble recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: We played like dog ***** against a patchwork patriot team that has a qb that cant throw a football and we should have lost. Minus saying we won....there is nothing else positive about this win. Why do you hate life so much? Enjoy the win. Get laid or something. Geez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jaraxxus said: Of course you can't Gene. Of course you can't. So Zimmer didn't make a great play to strip the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: 6 with NE and one with the Giants? Which one am I missing? Two with the Giants. 86 and 90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) The Bills didn't play a perfect game and there are certainly things they could have done better. That said, they never trailed in the game. Also, Newtown didn't drop the ball. Zimmer hit him from behind and clearly made an intentional move to punch the ball out - which was successful. The defense got run over most of the game, but made a play when they needed it most. They gave up a fair number of points and yards during the Raiders game, but also made a play (a couple of them) when the game was on the line and they had to have it. As to the national media, I really don't care what they say. Sure, it's nice to see praise for Buffalo and/or the Bills, but it really doesn't change anything. Simms should have gotten Zimmer's name, but keep in mind that Zimmer is a backup player recently signed from the practice squad who has never been a starter in the league. Not exactly a household name. Simms is generally a Bills supporter and I don't believe him blowing Zimmer's name was a show of disrespect. And I really don't care when they drone on about the Patriots, I just tune it out. I agree that they had one of the most successful runs in professional sports history, but it's over. Edited November 3, 2020 by msw2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Don't you think all those talk shows have production meetings? I doubt Chris Simms writes all his own matetial. Cam blowing the game is a bigger story than Zimmer... Lol....you're reaching here. The answer is no; this is segment is basically a vlog. The production meeting commentary consists of this one comment: "This is where Mr. Host asks Chris about the Bills/Pats game. Next up..." If that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said: All the national media is commenting that the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it. I can't argue with that tbh... I'm not watching this because it's "the national media", I'm watching this because it's Chris Simms who knows something about football and has had some strong and perceptive things to say about the Bills. I didn't hear Chris Simms promote the idea that "the Bills didn't win the game". The Pats were driving at the end with a chance to win it. They failed. They lost. This general idea (if it's one the media is commenting on, I wouldn't know) that "the Pats lost the game, the Bills didn't win it" is stupid. The Pats were never in the lead - not once. They kept coming back to tie it, then the Bills would answer back and take the lead again. They fell short at the end - they would almost certainly have managed a FG to force overtime if the Bills hadn't forced a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 As much as we focus on how the Pats ran all over us...we actually ran all over the Patriots defense as well. Just as dominantly. So spare me the narrative that the Pats blew the game on one late turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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