DCofNC Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 OK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 did this thought wake you up last night? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think it is fair to say that the Rams offense is better then the Pats offense Oh yeah.....we still won the game 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Good thing offense wins in the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, DCofNC said: Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. Pats* are a month away. Lot's can change and it's only about the Raiders coming up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Bills O throwing with authority, Pats D in trouble 2 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I think it is fair to say that the Rams offense is better then the Pats offense Oh yeah.....we still won the game It's reasonable to be thinking about the division. Teams draft in some regards to address their divisional opposition, so it's a good question to be thinking about NE. NYJ and MIA are lackluster, but the path to winning the AFCE runs through NE. There's nothing wrong with looking in the rear-view mirror and that LAR win should be celebrated given how it happened. But you gotta keep looking forward at what may be around the corner to prepare adequately. I'm confident this week there's gonna be an emphasis on being more stout against the run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think it is fair to say that the Rams offense is better then the Pats offense Oh yeah.....we still won the game It’s also fair to say that the Pats’ defense is better than the Rams’ defense...so there’s that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. I don't think anyone has crowned us division champs yet either. We're(most of us) smart enough and have been through enough with this team to make such a bold prediction three weeks into the season. But John from Riverside said exactly what i was thinking. The pats O isn't anywhere near the level of the Rams offense, by a country mile. And as bad as our defense has performed these past two weeks, I have all the confidence in the world that by the time we play the pats we'll be ready. Hopefully Milano and Edmunds will both be back to or close to 100%. For the first time in forever the pats game doesn't worry me. I think we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) We are doomed... Edited September 28, 2020 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. Talk to me in several weeks. Concentrate on LVR right now.......sheesh. Talk about looking ahead. Go Bills! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think the Pats D is very good. The Pats offense is very limited with few weapons and Cam Newton is playing decent, but not at the level anywhere near Josh Allen is playing right now. I expect us beat them soundly in 5 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I love the Pats new offense. Brady ruined us for decades - one dime after another. Almost impossible to defend at times. Cam is very good, but he has none of that "it doesn't matter what we do" quality that Brady had. He makes mistakes, he relies on his legs, he can be inaccurate. The Raiders had their shots to win yesterday, but made too many mistakes (granted, teams seem to do that when they face the Pats). Bring 'em on this year. If we get beat by Burkhead, then it's simply never meant to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. when did the patriots steamroll us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 This reminds me of the news...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, mannc said: It’s also fair to say that the Pats’ defense is better than the Rams’ defense...so there’s that... I dont think its fair to say that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, TwistofFate said: I dont think its fair to say that at all. Are you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I think I read this same thread after the Saints game where they ran all over us. I think I read this same thread after the Eagles game last year after they ran all over us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Beane will be signing a run stuffing DT on signing day (Tuesday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, mannc said: Are you joking? No. Passing The Rams defense has faced the #1 Ranked passing team (Cowboys) the #2 ranked passing offense (Buffalo) and the 22nd ranked passing offense (Philly). The Patriots defense has faced the #26 ranked passing team (Miami) the #4 ranked passing offense (Seattle) and the 18th ranked passing offense (Raiders). Rushing The Rams defense has faced the 20th ranked rushing team (Cowboys) the 15th ranked (Eagles) and the 23rd ranked (Bills). The Pats have faced the 19th ranked rushing team (Miami) the 14th ranked (Seattle) and the 12th ranked (Raiders). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The Pats will fight for the division.....this is not the AFC South....the Bills have to take it from New England. BB wins with gameplans, matchups and with players that play hard pretty much all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: No. Passing The Rams defense has faced the #1 Ranked passing team (Cowboys) the #2 ranked passing offense (Buffalo) and the 22nd ranked passing offense (Philly). The Patriots defense has faced the #26 ranked passing team (Miami) the #4 ranked passing offense (Seattle) and the 18th ranked passing offense (Raiders). Rushing The Rams defense has faced the 20th ranked rushing team (Cowboys) the 15th ranked (Eagles) and the 23rd ranked (Bills). The Pats have faced the 19th ranked rushing team (Miami) the 14th ranked (Seattle) and the 12th ranked (Raiders). I don't care who they "faced". There have only been three games and I could easily argue that the units the Rams have faced are highly ranked in large part because they got to play against the Rams defense. Outside of Ramsey, their DBs are bums and outside of Aaron Donald, their front 7 is a bunch of replacement level players. The Pats have completely shut down two pretty good offenses and they have the best defensive backfield in the league. It's a pretty safe bet that they will be ranked in the top five again this year. Edited September 28, 2020 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, mannc said: It’s also fair to say that the Pats’ defense is better than the Rams’ defense...so there’s that... Is it? The rams have the best DT and one of the best corners in the league.....Brocker's isnt exactly chopped liver either 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, mannc said: I don't care who they "faced". There have only been three games and I could easily argue that the units the Rams have faced are highly ranked in large part because they got to play against the Rams defense. Outside of Ramsey, their DBs are bums and outside of Aaron Donald, their front 7 is a bunch of replacement level players. The Pats have completely shut down two pretty good offenses and they have the best defensive backfield in the league. It's a pretty safe bet that they will be ranked in the top five again this year. That might be believable if it wasn't for the fact that the Cowboys only put up 17 points with Dak throwing for a season low 266 yards and Elliot didn't break 100 on the ground...or the Eagles, Wentz, putting up similar numbers with multiple INTs and Sanders being held for under 100 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, John from Riverside said: Is it? The rams have the best DT and one of the best corners in the league.....Brocker's isnt exactly chopped liver either Outside of those three guys (two guys, really) their defense is a bunch of JAGs. They are as mediocre as it gets. 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: That might be believable if it wasn't for the fact that the Cowboys only put up 17 points with Dak throwing for a season low 266 yards and Elliot didn't break 100 on the ground...or the Eagles, Wentz, putting up similar numbers with multiple INTs and Sanders being held for under 100 as well. That was a good performance vs Dallas, but the Eagles are a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, mannc said: That was a good performance vs Dallas, but the Eagles are a mess. Well...I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Pats will definitely be 2-2 by next Sunday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Who needs defense when you have Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 We're on to the Las Vegas Raiders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I mean the OP is not exactly wrong and if you think the D just had a bad day you'd be sadly mistaken. This has become all too common since Houston last year. The D has needed the the O to bail them out this season. That is not sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Nothing bothers me more than when a team just runs the football against you and cannot be stopped. Our defense is on the lighter side and if the NFL is allowing these 6’8 330 lb O-Lineman to grab and hold like they appear to be doing we will be at an even bigger disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I agree in theory about NE this year. I believe they will try and run the ball hard against us and it will make for some tough football. And downplaying it is kind of silly at this point. We definitely play them twice, and could see them a 3rd time on wildcard weekend. But I think the silver lining is that McD knows Cam as well as anyone does, and he HAS to have some inside knowledge on how to get him off his game. I've watched enough Carolina games to know that when Cam is sulking on the sidelines with the towel on his head, he isnt the same player as we have seen so far in these 3 'honeymoon games' this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, DCofNC said: Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet. don't we play the Raiders this week? No one can be division champs after 3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Some people. I mean, it seems like a reasonable concern. I was thinking about it as well. We struggled against the Patriots' running game in that last game last year, and if we struggle again this year, they could control the ball and keep our offense off the field. Seems like a good game plan against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Sometimes I have to wonder what goes through some of you guys heads when you start these threads 🤦♂️🤦♂️ We play Vegas this week. By the time we play the Pats cam might be on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mannc said: It’s also fair to say that the Pats’ defense is better than the Rams’ defense...so there’s that... What are you smoking? Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey do not play for the Pats. Neither do Dont'a Hightower and Patrick Chung this year. So, I do not agree with you at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Sometimes I have to wonder what goes through some of you guys heads when you start these threads 🤦♂️🤦♂️ We play Vegas this week. By the time we play the Pats cam might be on IR. November. a very long time from now. And yes. who knows what will be by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I mean the OP is not exactly wrong and if you think the D just had a bad day you'd be sadly mistaken. This has become all too common since Houston last year. The D has needed the the O to bail them out this season. That is not sustainable. On the other hand, this was the first game where the D allowed 100 yards rushing this season, so they haven't exactly been steamrolled. I don't think that really applies to the Jets game at all. If anything, the D starts strong and then lapses. I'd say it's a concern, but to argue like change is impossible is short-sighted at best. Just look at 2018 when the defense was by FAR the worst in the league for the first six quarters and then something clicked (and it was not ALL the subtraction of Vontae Davis, although that made it kinda funny) and they were the best D for the rest of the year. Also, two key factors are that likely due to the unusual preseason, the Bills are not alone in defensive struggles -- defenses around the league are off to a sluggish start. McDermott/Frazier have shown they are good at righting the ship. Second, Edmunds and Milano have been the heart of the defense and were gone in game 2 and while Milano looked at full strength, Edmunds likely was not yet there. We're 3-0. Let's see what the D does against Vegas (that feels so weird to say) and Tennessee. I suspect we'll see a step up from the Rams game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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