Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Beane you know what you have to do. Sign him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Beane you know what you have to do. Sign him. That would definently help. Harrison Phillips and Vernon Butler have been no existent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 ***** sign him right now. The defense has become the glaring weakness of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Honestly I wouldn't hate the move, kind of would remind me of the Lugient signing last year, it was mostly window dressing but I think brining in another player sends a message to the other players at the position. They should at least workout Snacks and some other space eaters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I’m not normally on the sign this guy or that guy stuff but he would be huge for this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafi$ Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 And everyone didn’t think we’d miss star so much 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Brennan Huff said: ***** sign him right now. The defense has become the glaring weakness of the team I wouldn't say that just yet, the defense was good against the Jets (not saying much but still) and was decent against the Fins (only really let up 21 points as that last TD was garbage time) they let up a lot of points against the Rams who likely will finish as a top 7 offense in the league. And while the rush defense was a concern Josh did hand the Rams two turnovers and put the defense in bad field position. I think the defense needs help up the middle but I think they aren't a glaring weakness. Just now, BillsMafi$ said: And everyone didn’t think we’d miss star so much In the middle of last season the rushing defense (with Star in there) was terrible. The only player they added was Lugient who was kind of just a JAG at that point and due to scheme changes the rush defense played a lot better. I am not opposed to brining in another DT to send a message to the others on the roster but this team needs to man up and just execute better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't say that just yet, the defense was good against the Jets (not saying much but still) and was decent against the Fins (only really let up 21 points as that last TD was garbage time) they let up a lot of points against the Rams who likely will finish as a top 7 offense in the league. And while the rush defense was a concern Josh did hand the Rams two turnovers and put the defense in bad field position. I think the defense needs help up the middle but I think they aren't a glaring weakness. In the middle of last season the rushing defense (with Star in there) was terrible. The only player they added was Lugient who was kind of just a JAG at that point and due to scheme changes the rush defense played a lot better. I am not opposed to brining in another DT to send a message to the others on the roster but this team needs to man up and just execute better. Fitz was picking the D apart in the 2nd half of that game. The run D got absolutely gashed today. That opened up the pass game. We need help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Fitz was picking the D apart in the 2nd half of that game. The run D got absolutely gashed today. That opened up the pass game. We need help Fitz picked apart the middle of the defense with Milano and Edumonds out and the defense only gave up 21 points when it counted. The Rams are a great offense and scored twice when the offense put them in a bad position. Yes I think the defense could use some help up the middle but I am not ready to say this defense sucks because of one bad game against a top 5-7 offense in the league with two bad turnovers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Welcome to Winning in the Nfl. you have to score a lot and hopefully your defense holds up for stretches along the way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I think Seattle is going to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Oliver and Jefferson are both well under 300 pounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I dont think a space eater in the problem. They played the #1 running team by a wide margin. Milano and Edmunds are not where they need to be in run fits. Its also the second game they saw another team. Give it some time. I think they are going to be a very good compliment to the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 DO we have enough food for a guy with that nickname? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Not a bad idea. I like it actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I expected the Rams to move the ball and put up points but I didn’t think it would look that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Fitz picked apart the middle of the defense with Milano and Edumonds out and the defense only gave up 21 points when it counted. The Rams are a great offense and scored twice when the offense put them in a bad position. Yes I think the defense could use some help up the middle but I am not ready to say this defense sucks because of one bad game against a top 5-7 offense in the league with two bad turnovers. Agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: DO we have enough food for a guy with that nickname? Didn't even have enough for the Shnowman in Miami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. Jordan Phillips was bad against the run... In fact Star was there when the team went through a stretch of bad run defense last year. It was only scheme adjustments and improved play from the D-line that got the team on track when it hit that mid-year slump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I support the signing, but who do we jettison? A LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I think most of the blame goes on Frazier....he has no in game adjustments......he is highly overrated by allot of fans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaBu Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. Jordan Philips was a liability in the run game. He free lanced too often and was more interested in his sack total than staying in scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: And everyone didn’t think we’d miss star so much Yep, he was a lot more important than most will admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jabu said: Jordan Philips was a liability in the run game. He free lanced too often and was more interested in his sack total than staying in scheme. People forget McD basically asked Phillips to rush and freelance at the 1 tech and while it would often lead to pressure and tackles for losses it was more often than not also succeptible to traps and other issues with the rushing game. Edited September 27, 2020 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. Take a look at what Jordan has done with his new team: nothing. He made his money based on his ten sacks...which were mostly coverage sacks. He’s not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I doubt it will happen and his best days are behind him, but he's still effective and better than any other DT on our roster right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 We have butter, we have wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 With a 28 to 3 lead may have been the defense plan was to go into a bend but don't break mode. Probably would have been OK with that if it weren't for the offense doing nothing but getting stopped or turning the ball over. Then defense had to go back out for long drives in a some what warm day and was gassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Might want to find some LBs too, but having a bunch of 3 techs and no 1 Techs isn’t working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: ***** sign him right now. The defense has become the glaring weakness of the team I mean, that’s a little extreme. This same defense without Snacks Harrison, held a top 5 offense to 3 points in the first half. That’s not a weakness. Tackling was a major issue today. Ed Oliver got pushed around all day, and there were several issues of miscommunication in the secondary. Those kinds of things can be fixed in practice this week, and going forward. It’s only the 3rd game of limited offseason and no preseason. Those things matter, and it’s obvious now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: Welcome to Winning in the Nfl. you have to score a lot and hopefully your defense holds up for stretches along the way. I've been saying that for a while, the NFL right now requires an offence that can put up big points, there are very few defences that are going to be able to stop most offences to allow you to win close games regularly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: I've been saying that for a while, the NFL right now requires an offence that can put up big points, there are very few defences that are going to be able to stop most offences to allow you to win close games regularly And ours will get it done more often than most. it was a tough half not a bad unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: And ours will get it done more often than most. it was a tough half not a bad unit. But this is becoming regular for them, Have a great first half then sleep through the 2nd half getting outscored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Sign/resign whatever offensive players you need to score 28+ per game and you'll win 11+ games. Defense just needs to force a couple of punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 If you sign Harrison, who do you drop from the team? Do you give up on Harrison Phillips or eat the dead cap by releasing Vernon Butler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I'm fine with this because from my point of view, Oliver is trending towards bust. You see what Donald did today? That's what Oliver is allegedly capable of. Where is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. They do miss Jordan. And Star. Id be kicking the tires on available dts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Can we get Star to come back?? Letting Jordan Phillips go was a mistake. Phillips was terrible against the run. Not saying the Bills don’t need to do something, but Phillips didn’t fix the problem last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Luka said: I'm fine with this because from my point of view, Oliver is trending towards bust. You see what Donald did today? That's what Oliver is allegedly capable of. Where is it? I know man... i’m really worried about Oliver too... needs to put on 20lbs of muscle.. too small... not saying he can’t ball but he needs to show up with a better physique than he’s brought.. must of had a really lazy offseason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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