Buffalo03 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said: Greatest non-franchise/journeyman QB... Kurt Warner comes to mind. Love Fitz though. His roast of Fred Jackson belongs in some type of HOF Don't know if I would consider Warner a journeymen QB. Both the Rams and Cardinals based their franchises around him. Plus, I'm convinced if Warner would have gotten his chance earlier or had been younger instead of age 28 that he probably would have been with the Rams a lot longer. I also would say, if he didn't retire when he did then the Cardinals would have let him ride it out with them as long as he wanted since there wasn't any decline in his game Besides the Bills who gave Fitz a big contract, no other team has ever built their franchise around Fitzpatrick. Fitz, has basically always been a bridge QB or or just the guy to play until the main QB took over but he has been productive. He has also played for 8 teams which is the definition of a journeymen QB Two completely different players and two completely different situations if you ask me. I would never consider Warner a journeymen QB 55 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said: Well iirc he was originally a GB packer... then played for the Rams, Giants, and Cardinals. Fits my description of a journeyman. he was never officially on the Packers. He was basically just a camp guy. He never made it through one training camp with them. He played for 3 teams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Fitz is a very good QB and who knows what he would’ve done with a Sean Peyton type coach for most of his career. I say yes on Fitz going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I'd love to see his HOF bust with that huge beard reaching all the way to the Canton floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I'd love to see his HOF bust with that huge beard reaching all the way to the Canton floor After seeing some of the commemorative statues and plaques of athletes, I would settle for a reasonable likeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 His career numbers are closing in on Jim Kelly’s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) Football Hall of Fame ? That’s a huge no. Fan Favorite Hall of Fame ? Certainly. You couldn’t build a QB in a lab with more fan favorite attributes than Fitz. Edited September 26, 2020 by SirAndrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 7:29 AM, Blokestradamus said: Here's a question. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had entrance music, what would it be? Get Ready For This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) On 9/25/2020 at 9:29 AM, Blokestradamus said: Here's a question. If Ryan Fitzpatrick had entrance music, what would it be? The Beards - You should consider having sex with a bearded man Edited September 27, 2020 by jeremy2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Hall of Nice Guy Journeyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Well, he went to Harvard, wears his wedding ring on the field and has an epic beard. So maybe. Edited September 27, 2020 by Bubba Gump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: His career numbers are closing in on Jim Kelly’s. Numbers for QBs playing in the 2010’s vs numbers for QBs that played in the 80’s and 90’s while playing his first few years in a different league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I like Fitz, but HOF???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Yet another year with another 15 Fitz threads? Can we please merge and pin? It’s the same relative topic for years: “Wow, he’s still not our QB by his own choosing, isn’t it grand that he’s still taking developmental snaps from possible future QBs? Let’s keep discussing how not our QB he is and how the Lombardi trophy doesn’t want to have a beer with him. Also he has facial hair, who knew? Let’s take a poll on your favorite follicle and where.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtonHearsaWho Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 10:15 AM, Heavy Kevi said: Greatest non-franchise/journeyman QB... Kurt Warner comes to mind. Love Fitz though. His roast of Fred Jackson belongs in some type of HOF I actually just rewatched that the other day! Absolutely epic takedown of Whaley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Fitzpatrick should get an award for highest standard deviation in his performances. 17 minutes ago, benderbender said: Yet another year with another 15 Fitz threads? Can we please merge and pin? It’s the same relative topic for years: “Wow, he’s still not our QB by his own choosing, isn’t it grand that he’s still taking developmental snaps from possible future QBs? Let’s keep discussing how not our QB he is and how the Lombardi trophy doesn’t want to have a beer with him. Also he has facial hair, who knew? Let’s take a poll on your favorite follicle and where.” Did you know he plays with his wedding ring on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 best “backup” QB ever. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 any guy who can play mediocre football in the nfl for so many years with that bad of an arm deserves to be in the hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 11:42 PM, Heavy Kevi said: Well iirc he was originally a GB packer... then played for the Rams, Giants, and Cardinals. Fits my description of a journeyman. You count the practice squad? Well in that case Matt Leinart is a full blown Buffalo Bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 The only way is if he gets a ring in relif play and plays untill 45! Hall of Journeymen for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclepete Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 10:22 AM, Heavy Kevi said: To me he's just as much the Cards QB who took a paycut to keep his receivers together. And he took both teams to SB's. Not sure that makes Fitz' case. Well, maybe Fitzgerald. 1 Super Bowl win, 3 appearances and an NFL MVP make you far from a journeyman/ non franchise qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 7:14 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Should Ryan Fitzpatrick be inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame when he is done with his career? I say YES. First, it's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats, or Hall of Super Bowl Victories, or Hall of Franchise QBs. Second, I'd argue that he is the Greatest non-Franchise/Journeyman QB in NFL history. Third, folks say a good way of measuring worthiness is "If you were telling the Story of the NFL, would he be included?", and I say YES. When talking about this decade how could you not talk about the dude who has unseated and benched numerous 1st rd "Franchise" prospects? Fourth, ok lets talk stats. Fitz just passed Troy Aikman, Steve Young, and Phil Simms on the All-time Passer list. He is 600 yards away from passing Tony Romo, and less than 2000 yards away from leap-frogging Jim Kelly. If he starts this entire season, he'll likely end up #26 on the all-time passing list. He's a great dude, and a heck of a character. The campaign starts here. FITZ FOR HALL OF FAME! You already had the discussion and I just said my peace. Not much else to say. I just hope you aren’t disappointed when he never makes it to the voting semi finals. Unless he’s able to, at least, make it to a SB as a starter before he retires, there is no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) He can be in the HoF for keeping playoff teams out of the playoffs? The only historic stats is when the playoffs are on the line Fitz will throw enough game changing INTs to ensure they will never get in. Edited November 24, 2020 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think the balloting frowns upon the Amish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: You already had the discussion and I just said my peace. Not much else to say. I just hope you aren’t disappointed when he never makes it to the voting semi finals. Unless he’s able to, at least, make it to a SB as a starter before he retires, there is no chance. I know, it's just in fun. But I do believe he is as qualified as some others. Again, none of this stuff matters, so why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: I know, it's just in fun. But I do believe he is as qualified as some others. Again, none of this stuff matters, so why not? Definitely more fun than these by week threads! I forgot to ask, who is your all time favorite Bills 3rd down back that never started a game in the NFL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, NewEra said: Definitely more fun than these by week threads! I forgot to ask, who is your all time favorite Bills 3rd down back that never started a game in the NFL? Tim Tindale, of course! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, NewEra said: Definitely more fun than these by week threads! I forgot to ask, who is your all time favorite Bills 3rd down back that never started a game in the NFL? Good one, New Era! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, Sweats said: I think the balloting frowns upon the Amish Probably figure Amish cannot watch games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Wall of famer, yes. Hall of fame, no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Wall of famer, yes. Hall of fame, no I'd argue his overall career is far more impressive and noteworthy than the little he did while with the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'd argue his overall career is far more impressive and noteworthy than the little he did while with the Bills. He's beloved in Buffalo and stated it's his favorite fan base. He gets my WOF vote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: He's beloved in Buffalo and stated it's his favorite fan base. He gets my WOF vote Dont get me wrong, I'm not against putting him on the Wall. I'm just sayin if he is Wall worthy, then he should be discussed for the Hall too. He's started games for 25% of the league. There isn't a fanbase anywhere that doesnt love him. If he starts the rest of the year, he likely leapfrogs Kelly on the all-time passer list. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dont get me wrong, I'm not against putting him on the Wall. I'm just sayin if he is Wall worthy, then he should be discussed for the Hall too. He's started games for 25% of the league. There isn't a fanbase anywhere that doesnt love him. If he starts the rest of the year, he likely leapfrogs Kelly on the all-time passer list. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career.htm I knew you secretly just wanted to get this thread poppin again! 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 Let the HoF campaign..... BEGIN! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Note 1 min 7 seconds pass to OJ Howard Edited June 2, 2022 by PrimeTime101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 His beard should get in for sure. His music has to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 This is a joke right on HOF or WOF. Not even Hall of very good. He’s a great guy, but that’s a big fat no. Now Gore at 16000 yards over 16 years, 19980 all purpose yards and 3rd all time if not a 1st ballot, will get in at the 1st couple of years eligibility. The only ones with more yards is Emmett, and Sweetness. There is only 1 NFL RB with over 12,000 rushing yards not in the Hall, and that’s dirty Ricky Waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Bills WOF for sure. Same goes for FJ and KW. Bills legends during the drought years. HOF not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: There is only 1 NFL RB with over 12,000 rushing yards not in the Hall, and that’s dirty Ricky Waters. And that is a damn travesty. Add to the yardage, 91 total TDs and a ring. Fitz isn't even Wall worthy, if we're being honest. He just a beloved player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: This is a joke right on HOF or WOF. Not even Hall of very good. He’s a great guy, but that’s a big fat no. Now Gore at 16000 yards over 16 years, 19980 all purpose yards and 3rd all time if not a 1st ballot, will get in at the 1st couple of years eligibility. The only ones with more yards is Emmett, and Sweetness. There is only 1 NFL RB with over 12,000 rushing yards not in the Hall, and that’s dirty Ricky Waters. It's the Hall of FAME, not Hall of Stats. It's merely another branch of Marketing for an entertainment business. Put him in! Edited June 2, 2022 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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