JoPoy88 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, Rico said: When I saw the thread title, I thought it was the ex-Bengal Andre Smith, the big slob OT from Alabama. So did I! this is slightly less disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 37 minutes ago, Rico said: When I saw the thread title, I thought it was the ex-Bengal Andre Smith, the big slob OT from Alabama. Just because it's obligatory. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Yep, but it could be to replace Taiwan Jones when let him go after Beane signs Fournette. jk but you never know. If it were to happen (and it won't) - Taiwan Jones would be safe. T.J. Yeldon would be the odd man out. Jones was specifically brought in for his Special Teams by his old Special Teams coach. You wouldn't cut a core Special Teamers for a 4th RB that doesn't play ST. Fact is, as we've had the past couple seasons, we'll have 3 Tailbacks active on game day. Zack Moss takes the place of Frank Gore and Taiwan Jones takes the place of Senorise Perry. We really don't have the room to add a guy like Fournette. We'd be not dressing one of either Singletary, Moss, or Fournette every week. Edited August 31, 2020 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said: Just because it's obligatory. oh man..two things come to mind....1. halter tops...2, National Geographic magazine when I was but a kid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 A conditional 7th rounder on 2023....... is that more or less than a bag of deflated footballs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, Logic said: I see people saying he’ll take Taiwan Jones’ spot, but I highly doubt that. Jones is a gunner. Smith is not. More likely, it means the possible end for Vosesn Joseph. Corey Thompson and Tyrel Dodson seem locked in as the top two backup LBs on defense. They likely figure that if they keep a sixth LB, he needs to be a special teams asset, and a Joseph is not. Maybe Joseph makes the practice squad. Thanks for the insight. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: A conditional 7th rounder on 2023....... is that more or less than a bag of deflated footballs? Hey to the right buyer deflated footballs are worth their weight in gold. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, WMDman said: can never have enough ST leaders Carolina Panthers I fixed it for you! Collecting these ST players does tend to make guys like Jones and DeMarco more expendable, maybe that's the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Rico said: When I saw the thread title, I thought it was the ex-Bengal Andre Smith, the big slob OT from Alabama. 23 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said: Just because it's obligatory. Hey, HEY, HEY! ? * Large people have feelings too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Thought it said he's still on rookie contract?? If so then likely wasn't there yet when McD and Beane were there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Can anybody tell me more about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Beane waking up to the notification on his phone that a Carolina player has been released... As I said in the Smith thread this morning. Beane just cant frickin help himself. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Something that was wrote about him after the draft. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article210164014.html As per the article, he's 6' and 237 lbs. He ran a 4.63 40 at the combine despite popping his hamstring in the middle of it. Despite that Lance Zierlein of NFL.com called him slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If it were to happen (and it won't) - Taiwan Jones would be safe. T.J. Yeldon would be the odd man out. Jones was specifically brought in for his Special Teams by his old Special Teams coach. You wouldn't cut a core Special Teamers for a 4th RB that doesn't play ST. Fact is, as we've had the past couple seasons, we'll have 3 Tailbacks active on game day. Zack Moss takes the place of Frank Gore and Taiwan Jones takes the place of Senorise Perry. We really don't have the room to add a guy like Fournette. We'd be not dressing one of either Singletary, Moss, or Fournette every week. First I was jk (just kidding) BUT if you think Jones is a lock with all the other people brought in for STs so far I think you are mistaken. Right now (like I've said today in a post) and the rest of the week the coaches and Beane will be going over all kinds of combinations as to who makes the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If it were to happen (and it won't) - Taiwan Jones would be safe. T.J. Yeldon would be the odd man out. Jones was specifically brought in for his Special Teams by his old Special Teams coach. You wouldn't cut a core Special Teamers for a 4th RB that doesn't play ST. Fact is, as we've had the past couple seasons, we'll have 3 Tailbacks active on game day. Zack Moss takes the place of Frank Gore and Taiwan Jones takes the place of Senorise Perry. We really don't have the room to add a guy like Fournette. We'd be not dressing one of either Singletary, Moss, or Fournette every week. Agree 100%, you make an important point. One of the biggest things we need to get used to is that this current Bills roster is as talented and as deep as it's been since the 1999-2000 playoff team (we won't discuss the abomination of what ended that postseason run) and Beane is going to have to make some extremely tough decisions on cut-down day. Plans for a potentially reduced cap in 2021 as well as upcoming contract negotiations for Milano/White will have to be considered. The players we release will get picked up by other teams (remember when it was the other way around?), but this is a good problem to have. In making those final roster decisions, guys who have replaceable skill sets found elsewhere on the roster and/or do not have any special teams ability should be in trouble IMO. The key candidates are TJ Yeldon, Duke Williams, Pat Dimarco, and probably Vosean Joseph with the Andre Smith trade. All four guys offer either zero special teams experience or poor ST performance in Dimarco's case and could/should be replaced by Taiwan Jones, Isaiah Hodgins, Reggie Gilliam, and Andre Smith/Corey Thompson respectively who represent cheaper/younger/more versatile options. Beane has actually done a great job of acquiring versatile players who can contribute on ST and at multiple offensive or defensive positions (the offensive and defensive lines in particular are filled with guys who can play at 2+ spots). Get used to it, fellow Bills fans. This roster is more talented than it has been in two decades and *knock on wood* that the season plays out and Allen stays healthy, we'll have an AFC East title, a home playoff win, and we won't remember the guys who got cut this coming weekend. Go Bills! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I think Beane did this just to mess with this board 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Linebacker depth is a real issue. Weakest position on the team. (Note: it’s nice that offensive line is no longer that.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Linebacker depth is a real issue. Weakest position on the team. (Note: it’s nice that offensive line is no longer that.) Don't you mean the backup quarterback? I swear I read that somewhere... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Linebacker depth is a real issue. Weakest position on the team. (Note: it’s nice that offensive line is no longer that.) Completely agree. Edmunds, and Milano are top tier starters. I suspect that AJ Klein is going to be a disappointment. And after him... we are thin, indeed. We can hope that Joseph, or Dodson steps up and comes into their own, and after that, Thompson, and Phillips are, perhaps solid depth, but are any of them starting caliber? It's a big concern. That being said, I know very little about Smith, but another Carolina cast-off does not fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Seems like Dodson is playing up a storm. He stands a good chance of being a very good backup. Matakevich too. Not that we're a powerhouse here at LB, especially with depth, but you can't have starting caliber guys at depth positions all over the team. It's not sustainable. IMO not a major concern, but maybe you're right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'm glad they're wanting to dominate on special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Must not be happy with the LB group Beyond Edmunds, and Milano, there's not much to get excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Why did Carolina release him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Logic said: I see people saying he’ll take Taiwan Jones’ spot, but I highly doubt that. Jones is a gunner. Smith is not. More likely, it means the possible end for Vosesn Joseph. Corey Thompson and Tyrel Dodson seem locked in as the top two backup LBs on defense. They likely figure that if they keep a sixth LB, he needs to be a special teams asset, and a Joseph is not. Maybe Joseph makes the practice squad. Yep, the last training camp report said Joseph has been too slow to react on plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 ST player, this is the last spots I think the team is trying to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: A conditional 7th rounder on 2023....... is that more or less than a bag of deflated footballs? Ha. It’s so smart of Beane and shows the value of relationships with other front offices. Get a guy you want to bring in without having to hope he clears waivers for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 13 hours ago, MAJBobby said: And with the obligatory BillsMafia tweet Someone needs to tell him Bills Mafia is in jail this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 hour ago, eball said: Ha. It’s so smart of Beane and shows the value of relationships with other front offices. Get a guy you want to bring in without having to hope he clears waivers for next to nothing. And my guess is if he doesn't make the roster the compensation is zilch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I dont recall ever either the Bills or any other team investing so much into ST. Going to be very interesting how it all works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, DJB said: I dont recall ever either the Bills or any other team investing so much into ST. Going to be very interesting how it all works out. Marrone's 2nd year we had about 8 guys on the roster purely for teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Marrone's 2nd year we had about 8 guys on the roster purely for teams. Hmm. I don't recall that. Regardless his coaching ruined anything good we had anyways Edited September 1, 2020 by DJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I have never been a fan of the Carolina connection signings. Maybe this one will pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, DJB said: Hmm. I don't recall that. Regardless his coaching ruined anything good we had anyways Two kickers, a punter, a long snapper, Easley as a gunner (he played only 3 snaps on offense all year), Thigpen as a return specialist (0 snaps on offense all year), Larry Dean (8 snaps all year on defense) and Ty Powell (40 snaps on defense but our most used non specialist on teams). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I have never been a fan of the Carolina connection signings. Maybe this one will pan out. I'm curious...have you not liked the specific players they acquired, or not liked the "Carolina connection?" It's just an odd statement because the connection itself shouldn't be viewed as a negative thing. I mean, Beane just traded less than a bag of footballs to get a guy who might be able to contribute on ST because he obviously has a relationship with the Carolina GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 17 hours ago, NewEra said: Could this put Taiwan in jeopardy? Maybe he takes his spot on ST which allows us to keep a different rb3? I had Taiwan as a virtual lock but he hasn’t been healthy and his camp and has been injury prone throughout his career I have been saying that I think Yeldon has the lead on Taiwan both because of his familiarity with Dabolls system and the fact Taiwan is not healthy and been plagued by injuries in his career. This trade for me immediately made me think Taiwan just got on even shakier ground given his big edge of Yeldon would be ST contributions. I think Taiwan is in serious jeopardy of not making this team now. I prefer Taiwan myself if he was healthy, but I think his window to earn a roster spot is starting to close unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I have been saying that I think Yeldon has the lead on Taiwan both because of his familiarity with Dabolls system and the fact Taiwan is not healthy and been plagued by injuries in his career. This trade for me immediately made me think Taiwan just got on even shakier ground given his big edge of Yeldon would be ST contributions. I think Taiwan is in serious jeopardy of not making this team now. I prefer Taiwan myself if he was healthy, but I think his window to earn a roster spot is starting to close unfortunately. Different positions. Taiwan is a gunner. If he doesn't make the team because of injuries or just because they prefer Yeldon it favour Robert Foster in the battle for WR#6. Smith plays inside on kickoff and as a 'wedge' blocker on kick return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Different positions yes, but they are only going to keep so many players whose only real value is ST. So if Andre takes one of those spots, it still lowers the chances for Taiwan. Especially in a COVID year where they need to balance depth across the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Different positions yes, but they are only going to keep so many players whose only real value is ST. So if Andre takes one of those spots, it still lowers the chances for Taiwan. Especially in a COVID year where they need to balance depth across the roster. I don't think the two are linked at all. Taiwan is linked to who stays as the last corner and the last receiver. Smith is linked to the other backup linebackers, the backup safeties and the DiMarco / backup tight end decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 WOW....ST will be in BEAST MODE! 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Different positions. Taiwan is a gunner. If he doesn't make the team because of injuries or just because they prefer Yeldon it favour Robert Foster in the battle for WR#6. Smith plays inside on kickoff and as a 'wedge' blocker on kick return. GunnerBill KNOWS gunners 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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