BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 We all can agree, NFL games are won and lost by field position and points. A bad punt can leave your defense with a short field. A missed 55 yd field goal - no points. This team is ready to win, and winning requires good field position and points. Keep Bass as our long field goal kicker...anything over 50 yards, he comes on the field. Keep Hauschka for the 20-40 yd field goals...he's money. Keep Bojorquez for shorter punts when you need the ball placed inside the 15 yd line or when there's a southeasterly wind at the stadium (to crate a cross wind with his left foot). Keep Edwards for longer punts and drop kicks. He's Australian and they utilize the drop kick a lot in that league. Would be a nice wrinkle for the Bills and can score points. Thoughts? 2 1 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Yeah, no. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I can see us keeping 2 kickers but no way 2 punters and there is absolutely no way that they roster 4 kickers and punters total. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah, no. Guess you don't want to win. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 That is too many for ST’s can they afford not having depth at other valued positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 Ks and 2 Punters? Brilliant....do we a snapper for each as well? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 If Bass even puts up a good battle vs Hauchka he should be the kicker. I would never keep 2 punters. We have a lot of depth now and a few very good young WR prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: That is too many for ST’s can they afford not having depth at other valued positions? Missed 55 yd field goals = Gift to the opposing offense. Bad punt = Gift to opposing offense. If you excel at skill players on ST (by reducing number of depth players at CB or OL for instance) you increase your chances of winning based on the theorum I wrote below: ST Player1, ST Player2, ST Player3, ST Player4 x .50 (50% increase in convertible field position points) - CB4 x OL4 = 33% Increase in Points 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 That’s a tall order in a Covid year. But you’ve made some strong points Ferg. Still I’d be hard-pressed to carry that into a final roster. At this point, we know what we have in Haush. A big price for a fading leg. I say it’s bass season! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 minute ago, DFT said: That’s a tall order in a Covid year. But you’ve made some strong points Ferg. Still I’d be hard-pressed to carry that into a final roster. At this point, we know what we have in Haush. A big price for a fading leg. I say it’s bass season! I like that "Bass Season"!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 If you keep all four, where do you cut back on the rest of your squad of 53? The Bills are already going to have to make tough calls at DL, WR, QBs. What does your 53 look like if you keep all 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 There's nothing to indicate that our two punters have a different skill set, so why keep both? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 OP, I had same idea about kickers today but decided not to post it to avoid inevitable flame I think it has some merits if Hauschka looks better / more effective on shorter FGs but does not have a leg to kick 50+, and Bass looks good enough over 50. I can imagine have two punters with different skillsets but I guess thats just too much given roster limitations on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Is Garrison Sanborn available to snap the ball ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 If all 53 could dress out.... it may be something to look into.... but I think only 46 or 47 dress out. That being said, skill positions take priority 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 So if you keep 2 extra ST players then who gets cut and from what position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Not a chance. Let Bass be the kicker and let Edwards punt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I think its possible that they keep Hauschka and Bass but no way. A key thing to remember is if a guy is released now, they can rollover that saved cap into next year when apparently the cap is going to be much lower. This is why I think guys like Murphy, Hauschka, DiMarco are more likely to be cut because their value has dropped in the team's eyes and they save money for next years impending salary cap restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 39 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: We all can agree, NFL games are won and lost by field position and points. A bad punt can leave your defense with a short field. A missed 55 yd field goal - no points. This team is ready to win, and winning requires good field position and points. Keep Bass as our long field goal kicker...anything over 50 yards, he comes on the field. Keep Hauschka for the 20-40 yd field goals...he's money. Keep Bojorquez for shorter punts when you need the ball placed inside the 15 yd line or when there's a southeasterly wind at the stadium (to crate a cross wind with his left foot). Keep Edwards for longer punts and drop kicks. He's Australian and they utilize the drop kick a lot in that league. Would be a nice wrinkle for the Bills and can score points. Thoughts? I think the Bills also need a 3rd punter that can throw the ball for fake punts, and a 3rd kicker for extra points to keep the other two kickers fresh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Southeasterly punts? Australian drop kicks? I love this place... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Thoughts? Convert your office to an adult bookstore in order to keep 'Chatty Cathy' away. * No crazier a thought than keeping four FOOTball players on the 53 man roster. ? *? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: We all can agree, NFL games are won and lost by field position and points. A bad punt can leave your defense with a short field. A missed 55 yd field goal - no points. This team is ready to win, and winning requires good field position and points. Keep Bass as our long field goal kicker...anything over 50 yards, he comes on the field. Keep Hauschka for the 20-40 yd field goals...he's money. Keep Bojorquez for shorter punts when you need the ball placed inside the 15 yd line or when there's a southeasterly wind at the stadium (to crate a cross wind with his left foot). Keep Edwards for longer punts and drop kicks. He's Australian and they utilize the drop kick a lot in that league. Would be a nice wrinkle for the Bills and can score points. Thoughts? I hate you. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I would absolutely keep both kickers on the roster. I would use them the way you are saying, BUT more importantly, I want 2 in case of Covid. If they test positive, they are out, just think about going into a game and on Friday (or later) you find out your kicker is out. With the struggle to find reliable kicking across the league last year WITHOUT Covid, I wouldn’t give up my kickers or risk them to practice squad. I do understand there are some practice squad exemptions this year, but for the situation the Bills are looking at, unless Haush looks done or Bass is completely lights out (impossible to know with no preseason), I’d use them to their strengths and go with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 47 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I can see us keeping 2 kickers but no way 2 punters and there is absolutely no way that they roster 4 kickers and punters total. the only possible reason to keep two punters is if you think there is a high probability one of them will get sidelined with Covid this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I am super unsure if you are trolling. So the Bills are keeping 4 kickers, 3 QB's, plus Dimarco, Taiwan Jones, and Andre Roberts because of their ST ability not because they provide any usefulness on their side of the ball. That is like 20% of our final roster. Who are the other 10 players you cut from the 53? Or don't dress as part of the 46? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Missed 55 yd field goals = Gift to the opposing offense. Bad punt = Gift to opposing offense. If you excel at skill players on ST (by reducing number of depth players at CB or OL for instance) you increase your chances of winning based on the theorum I wrote below: ST Player1, ST Player2, ST Player3, ST Player4 x .50 (50% increase in convertible field position points) - CB4 x OL4 = 33% Increase in Points Is this a troll job? Since when is Bojorquez supposedly some great position punter..he is as likely to just shank a punt as any current pro punter there is. As for your elaborate formula, "ST Player1, ST Player2, ST Player3, ST Player4 x .50 (50% increase in convertible field position points) - CB4 x OL4 = 33% Increase in Points" Did you laugh at out loud when you wrote that? Amazing with all the sophisticated computer algorithms and analytics in football you have hit on o pure mathematical genius!! Edited August 21, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Is this a troll job? Since when is Bojorquez supposedly some great position punter..he is as likely to just shank a punt as any current pro punter there is. As for your elaborate formula, "ST Player1, ST Player2, ST Player3, ST Player4 x .50 (50% increase in convertible field position points) - CB4 x OL4 = 33% Increase in Points" Did you laugh at out loud when you wrote that? Amazing with all the sophisticated computer algorithms and analytics in football you have hit on o pure mathematical genius!! I would challenge you to create a proof that is better than the above. You know why you can't? Because my proof is plausible. Adding/keeping 4 skill kickers by reducing two depth players at a position of strength equals an increase in points (and better field position). My theory holds true and there's not much you can say to detract from the proof itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 We just need one to kick extra points. No punting needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I believe this belongs in the "Unpopular Bills Takes" thread. ? If you really think about it, most of our conversations should be in the "Unpopular Bills Takes" thread. ☺️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 This cant be serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: This cant be serious? Surely he can't be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, nucci said: 2 Ks and 2 Punters? Brilliant....do we a snapper for each as well? Yes it is like baseball catchers - some catch the knuckleball better. One punter is left handed, one right handed so it makes a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I love the idea during an El Nino year, because the south easterly wind has a stronger north south vector that really takes advantage of a left footed punter (take that with a grain of salt, I'm not a physicist, but I've read a ton of blogs and watched even more youtube videos). Unfortunately it's a La Nina year, so this is just a bad idea sadly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: We all can agree, NFL games are won and lost by field position and points. A bad punt can leave your defense with a short field. A missed 55 yd field goal - no points. This team is ready to win, and winning requires good field position and points. Keep Bass as our long field goal kicker...anything over 50 yards, he comes on the field. Keep Hauschka for the 20-40 yd field goals...he's money. Keep Bojorquez for shorter punts when you need the ball placed inside the 15 yd line or when there's a southeasterly wind at the stadium (to crate a cross wind with his left foot). Keep Edwards for longer punts and drop kicks. He's Australian and they utilize the drop kick a lot in that league. Would be a nice wrinkle for the Bills and can score points. Thoughts? Hahaha. Trying to do your best crayonz impersonation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Surely he can't be! He is and don't.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 First of all, we aren’t even going to need to punt this year! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I’m ready to roll with Bass. We need his leg. If they want to keep Hauska and can find a spot for him I’m fine with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I love this. So much. There's even a mathematical explanation. @BringBackFergy is a true genius, and we should appreciate his work. It's the perfect balance of creativity and not trying too hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said: We all can agree, NFL games are won and lost by field position and points. A bad punt can leave your defense with a short field. A missed 55 yd field goal - no points. This team is ready to win, and winning requires good field position and points. Keep Bass as our long field goal kicker...anything over 50 yards, he comes on the field. Keep Hauschka for the 20-40 yd field goals...he's money. Keep Bojorquez for shorter punts when you need the ball placed inside the 15 yd line or when there's a southeasterly wind at the stadium (to crate a cross wind with his left foot). Keep Edwards for longer punts and drop kicks. He's Australian and they utilize the drop kick a lot in that league. Would be a nice wrinkle for the Bills and can score points. Thoughts? As ideas go this is one of the worst I've read in quite a while Edited August 21, 2020 by Mountain Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 People laughed last year when the OP suggested the offensive line rolling rotation, he he got the last laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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