LABILLBACKER Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The lonely, yet annoying Jets fan lost on our board that could ruin the season. That would be Jetsfan20...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Blake Bortles is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Blake Bortles is available. I thought he was with the rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 "If the starting QB goes down, your season is basically over" is the dumbest/weakest football statement that can possibly be made. Every team in the league's season is basically over if their starting QB goes down. I believe three teams in NFL history have won championships with backup QBs in the lineup. That's it. Do you really think Joe Flacco is taking the Jets to a Lombardi Trophy? Essentially, if the biggest hole on your roster, and the only one to which a fan of a rival team can reasonably point to, is BACKUP QB, then it means you have an extremely good roster. Ya know what's a bigger impediment to winning football games? Not having any good pass rushers or cornerbacks. That's the position the Jets are in. All things considered, I'll take "mediocre backup QB situation" over "no pass rushers or cornerbacks" all day long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Barkley can win games. His first start here was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanfreek Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Logic said: Every team in the league's season is basically over if their starting QB goes down. I believe three teams in NFL history have won championships with backup QBs in the lineup. That's it. Of course sadly we were on of the teams to lose to a backup QB. Yeah yeah Billicheck, defense, running the ball more etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Matt Barkley has 10 career TDs passes and 21 Interceptions and a 65 rating. The OP is 100% correct. The Bills didn’t do everything they could to improve backup QB. They maintained status quo by protecting Allen and keeping the competition bar on the floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. I would not call Darnold the rock of Gibraltar of starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 50 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Guess you missed the Saints and Bridgewater play after Brees went down. Guess you missed the part where I said three teams in NFL history won a Lombardi with a backup QB in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Logic said: "If the starting QB goes down, your season is basically over" is the dumbest/weakest football statement that can possibly be made. Every team in the league's season is basically over if their starting QB goes down. I believe three teams in NFL history have won championships with backup QBs in the lineup. That's it. Do you really think Joe Flacco is taking the Jets to a Lombardi Trophy? Essentially, if the biggest hole on your roster, and the only one to which a fan of a rival team can reasonably point to, is BACKUP QB, then it means you have an extremely good roster. Ya know what's a bigger impediment to winning football games? Not having any good pass rushers or cornerbacks. That's the position the Jets are in. All things considered, I'll take "mediocre backup QB situation" over "no pass rushers or cornerbacks" all day long. I agree, but right now there’s no reason not to have a solid backup. There have never been this many good ones available. Very few teams are likely to go on a tear with a backup the way New Orleans did, but a good team with a solid backup may go 2-2 whereas that same team may go 0-4 with Nate Peterman or Duck Hodges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Fromm is an incredibly solid backup. Give the kid a chance. Beane saw the incredible value and addressed a huge need in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. When I looked last night New England was the favorite with the sportsbooks-- if someone were to be right about Buffalo winning the AFCE they could cash in at 1.5-1.6x their wager amount. New England was down around -110. I actually do agree with your thesis here and was hoping for an upgrade at backup QB with all that cap room we came into the off-season with. Before it got started I was hoping Ryan Fitzpatrick might somehow shake loose, then I wanted your boy Flacco! Or Jameis. I have a degree of trust in the Bills' FO and coaches but I must admit I am unable to arrive at the same conclusion independently pertaining to why are they so comfortable with Matt Barkley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 If backup QB is out biggest hole that sounds amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. You're like Jimmy Spagnola Lite. It's cute. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Barkley can win games. His first start here was fantastic. Remember 2013 when there was the Barkley, Nassib, Manuel, Glennon, Geno debate and which one would best fit Marrone's West Coast system. What a waste of time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Remember 2013 when there was the Barkley, Nassib, Manuel, Glennon, Geno debate and which one would best fit Marrone's West Coast system. What a waste of time. lol mediocrity at its finest. we are forever cursed with terrible offensive coaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. Dude I agree 100% huge mistake. Most Bills fans like Barkley for some reason. The guy is a huge liability and would not have a job on any other roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGeneral Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Who is Tampa's insurance policy? Or SF? Or KC? Or Baltimore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. We could put Fromm at QB and beat your sorry ass team.....twice So....there is that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 7 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. You don’t like Barkley ? The last game that he started still gives you nightmares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The one advantage Barkley has he's familiar with the playbook and team. The lack of practice time due to covid hurts teams that had a high turnover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I mean our backup situation is bad. I am a little surprised they are content with Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mean our backup situation is bad. I am a little surprised they are content with Barkley. I mean they drafted Fromm so maybe they aren't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I mean our backup situation is bad. I am a little surprised they are content with Barkley. Bringing in another QB is a delecate situation....if you bring in a vet who has been a starter and had success....you run a chance of creating a problem I thought the bills handled it right.....Fromm wont be looked at as a threat to Allen but had a lot of college success....so he might be good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 McBeane are not shy about signing former Panthers, obviously. The best-known of former Panthers, they passed on. If you haven't noticed, they have a plan. Call it a process. Signing an expensive backup QB, especially a guy who considers himself a starter, isn't part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 The biggest hole on our roster is punter. We lose the field position game with regularity because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 This is funny because Barkley beat the brakes off the Jets. Does Jetfan even revisit his own threads anymore? Or does he just drive-by troll us now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: This is funny because Barkley beat the brakes off the Jets. Does Jetfan even revisit his own threads anymore? Or does he just drive-by troll us now? The Jets completely quit on Todd Bowles that game. I think Barkley’s overall body of work speaks for itself. The Bills had ample opportunities to upgrade that position this offseason and decided not to. 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Bringing in another QB is a delecate situation....if you bring in a vet who has been a starter and had success....you run a chance of creating a problem I thought the bills handled it right.....Fromm wont be looked at as a threat to Allen but had a lot of college success....so he might be good Its the most important position on the field. If Allen can’t beat out Joe Flacco, Colt McCoy, Andy Dalton, Jameis Winston, or Marcus Marietta than he’s probably not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I mean our backup situation is bad. I am a little surprised they are content with Barkley. They probably aren’t. I don’t think Fromm is the answer either; maybe they do. But Cam wasn’t signing with any team that he wouldn’t be at least competing to start. Edited June 30, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 hours ago, FieldGeneral said: Who is Tampa's insurance policy? Or SF? Or KC? Or Baltimore? San Francisco has Nate Mullens who is pretty highly regarded around the league. Baltimore has RG3 who is far more accomplished than Barkley. KC and TB are up against the cap so they really don’t have that luxury. That said both of their coaches are offensive masterminds who can probably get solid play out of a Chad Henné type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 3 of the top 12 threads on the board started by this clown. I know I've had enough of this crap. GO AWAY. Edited June 30, 2020 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 51 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: The Jets completely quit on Todd Bowles that game. I think Barkley’s overall body of work speaks for itself. The Bills had ample opportunities to upgrade that position this offseason and decided not to. The Bills are in the same position as 90% of the league, and that includes your Jets and NE - if they lose their starting QB for any significant length of time, they’re in big trouble. Bridgewater and NO last year notwithstanding, most backup QBs in this league are bad. And it’s comical that you think Flacco isn’t completely washed up after flaming out in Denver last year. I’d be more worried about your starter if I were you anyways. Him, and the fact that your best player is routinely talking trash online trying to get outta town. Worry about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFan20 Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: The Bills are in the same position as 90% of the league, and that includes your Jets and NE - if they lose their starting QB for any significant length of time, they’re in big trouble. Bridgewater and NO last year notwithstanding, most backup QBs in this league are bad. And it’s comical that you think Flacco isn’t completely washed up after flaming out in Denver last year. I’d be more worried about your starter if I were you anyways. Him, and the fact that your best player is routinely talking trash online trying to get outta town. Worry about that. I think Flacco can be a Pro Bowl starter for the Jets by years end. Perhaps he had a Vinny Testavetde type run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said: I think Flacco can be a Pro Bowl starter for the Jets by years end. Perhaps he had a Vinny Testavetde type run. I guess you are alright, this gave me a good laugh! You Jests fans can be funny! Adam Gase is up for coach of the year already....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 14 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. cool username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 14 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: Based on what Beane and McD have done so far, I give them the benefit of the doubt. They know Cam very well. Perhaps they didn't believe he would be a good fit. Cam wants to be #1. The Bills don't want a challenger to Allen on board at this point. I agree w that assessment. Barkley is #2, knows it, and is supportive of Allen from a vets perspective...perfect to help get Allen's head right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Either Fromm or Barkley can be sufficient "game managers" who can do enough to not lose games that our Defense wins. I am comfortable with QB 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 15 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: I’m pretty surprised the Bills as a contender didn’t take out an insurance policy for Josh Allen. With Newton in the fold this division is going to be a dogfight and if Barkley/Fromm has to start meaningful games that could be the difference. I know you guys love Beane/McDermott and they are doing a great job, but to me they made a mistake here. Every team in the division has proven QBs behind their starter with the exception of the prohibitive favorite. The only hole I see on the team is at TE, but that's not enough to derail the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, McBean said: cool username IceBowl67 was already taken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: You want a back up who can come in and win you a few games if your starter is out. Someone who can keep the ship afloat... if Allen is out for a 4-5 weeks, the Bills are screwed. They'll lose every game with Fromm/Barkley. I agree. 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They probably aren’t. I don’t think Fromm is the answer either; maybe they do. But Cam wasn’t signing with any team that he wouldn’t be at least competing to start. Oh I know. I wasn't expecting the Bills to sign Cam. I just was surprised earlier in the offseason they were not more aggressive at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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