Cal Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Reported on ESPN that Mayfield plans to knee during national anthem. If any Bills player does, I'm done. 3 2 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Good on him, I truly hope the entire league kneels every game, Semper FI America, exercise your constitutional rights every damn day! Go Bills!!! 14 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cal said: Reported on ESPN that Mayfield plans to knee during national anthem. If any Bills player does, I'm done. Then leave. Honest to God, this gets ridiculous. When it all started with Keap he went to a decorated Green Beret for advice and was told that would be the honorable way to approach it. I know some vets who are against it, I know some vets who say that is exactly why they fought, to protect the rights of people. I stand for the anthem, I will continue to do so. But I also get why black players are protesting because the events of the past few weeks have finally opened the eyes of this 64 year old white man that things have got to change. You want to leave, go ahead. If a protest for the 2 minutes for the anthem is going to ruin a football game or team, good for you. But if you’ve ever been at a game talking to a friend or in the restroom during the anthem you’re a hypocrite. And if you can’t see that it’s finally time to see that things need to change maybe you’re something else. 25 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I hear NASCAR is in the market for new fans. Oh, wait ... never mind. 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Whatever, as long as we never again lose to a Mayfield led offense, I could care less. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I want money back on my tickets. If the Bills take a knee. I don’t want to pay to watch a protest. I don’t care what the reason. 3 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Yea unfortunately I will have to watch the games at the bar. I usually go to my mom and dads to watch football and they buy the Sunday ticket. My Dad is a Vietnam Vet and completely shut down football at the house with the Kaepernick kneeling. I’m sure he will do the same this time too. I was hoping the NFL would just give the players commercial time to spread awareness. The kneeling is going to hit the NFL in the pocket books big time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I don't expect him to be kneeling at the end of games so he should enjoy it when he has the opportunity. 1 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Yes, but WHO does he plan to knee during the anthem? If it's Landry, I would pay to see that. Edited June 14, 2020 by H2o 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) The social justice fight will live on, but I predict the kneeling thing will be forgotten by the time the 2021 season begins. Regardless of how you feel about the kneeling business, I think people should just be happy to see a 2020 season. This season is in greater jeopardy than most realize. The kneeling is the least of my concerns. Edited June 14, 2020 by SirAndrew 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Cal said: Reported on ESPN that Mayfield plans to knee during national anthem. If any Bills player does, I'm done. Thanks for sharing. You’ll be missed ? 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just turn the 1pm games on at 1:02pm, the 4:25pm games at 4:27pm, the 4:05 games at 4:07 and we won't have to worry about who is kneeling and who is not. And if you are at the games, just do what you do and not pay attention to others during the anthem. Problem solved. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhh. Seriously, who freaking cares anymore? If you want to stand, then stand. If you want to kneel, then kneel. How does this impact anyone directly? Get over it. 11 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Good on him, I truly hope the entire league kneels every game, Semper FI America, exercise your constitutional rights every damn day! Go Bills!!! You are 100% correct. You know what else is 100% correct? People are allowed to feel that kneeling during the Anthem is disgusting and a slap in the face to people that have served, and served and died while serving. It goes both ways. Edited June 14, 2020 by Beast 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Plenty of time to kneel during pregame warmups. F any of them who decide to “grandstand” during the national anthem. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The Browns been taking a knee for 50 years 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: The Browns been taking a knee for 50 years They actually had a darn good team from 85-89 and they were fun to watch. Otherwise, you are correct. Remember when both the Bills and the Browns played like they were taking a knee in the 6-3 classic in 2009. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 43 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Good on him, I truly hope the entire league kneels every game, Semper FI America, exercise your constitutional rights every damn day! Go Bills!!! Semper Fi brother! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Fan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, mead107 said: I want money back on my tickets. If the Bills take a knee. I don’t want to pay to watch a protest. I don’t care what the reason. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Waaaaaaaaaahhhhhh. Seriously, who freaking cares anymore? If you want to stand, then stand. If you want to kneel, then kneel. How does this impact anyone directly? Get over it. Honestly, my problem with it was they are on the job. I don’t care what they do off the job, within reason of course. If the NFL doesn’t care, I don’t care. The NFL seems to have changed their tune on being “pro-player”. I don’t love it, but I can’t hate it. Change needs to come. Riot or loot, you belong in jail. Peaceful protest to your heart’s delight. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 BRB. Need to run to the store to get some popcorn.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just keep them in the locker room then for the anthem. You're on the clock gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Pretty silly to allow yourself to be so affected by a player kneeling. Why should it come between you and enjoying football? And I guarantee Bills players will be kneeling. Tre White in particular. So you might as well plan on not watching football from now on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 48 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I stand for the anthem, I will continue to do so. But I also get why black players are protesting because the events of the past few weeks have finally opened the eyes of this 64 year old white man that things have got to change. May I ask what specifically in the last few weeks has changed your perspective on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, mead107 said: I want money back on my tickets. If the Bills take a knee. I don’t want to pay to watch a protest. I don’t care what the reason. Close your eyes. Or just don't enter the stadium until after the anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 To knee or not to knee.. that is the question .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Then leave. Honest to God, this gets ridiculous. When it all started with Keap he went to a decorated Green Beret for advice and was told that would be the honorable way to approach it. I know some vets who are against it, I know some vets who say that is exactly why they fought, to protect the rights of people. I stand for the anthem, I will continue to do so. But I also get why black players are protesting because the events of the past few weeks have finally opened the eyes of this 64 year old white man that things have got to change. You want to leave, go ahead. If a protest for the 2 minutes for the anthem is going to ruin a football game or team, good for you. But if you’ve ever been at a game talking to a friend or in the restroom during the anthem you’re a hypocrite. And if you can’t see that it’s finally time to see that things need to change maybe you’re something else. My whole thing is.... I’m all for the recognition, bringing light to the issue all that. The anthem and the flag will always cause a controversy. Doesn’t mean either side is wrong. I just ask, is there anything that can be done before a game that 100% of us can get on board? Something everyone can appreciate and get behind that still serves the purpose of highlighting our society needs to focus on equality? Im not picking sides, just saying something could be done where 100% agree and 100% share the same message. Even all that happened over the past 3 weeks the message and coming together is all over the place. Fingers are pointed in 50 different directions and some think they have no role in the change needed. F that!!!! What’s the message? What can we all get behind and WE ALL need to be better!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: May I ask what specifically in the last few weeks has changed your perspective on that? Kneeling on the guy’s neck. When you have a guy down and he doesn’t have a pulse and you keep kneeling on him was a Whoa! Moment. So I started talking to folks I know that are black, and my kids’ friends. And they all tell me of how they have had moments when they are treated differently or pulled over for no reason. All stuff I probably knew but never really thought about. And I guess the final one involved my one daughter who is adopted from China. Her best friend was adopted the same day, went into a grocery store, and was told we don’t wait on your kind. Different ethnicity, same kind of prejudice. It has to stop. It seriously has to stop. So I’ll stand. But I’ll support folks protesting. And I’ll keep supporting the police who have an impossible job but get screwed by the few who abuse their authority. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Augie said: Honestly, my problem with it was they are on the job. I don’t care what they do off the job, within reason of course. If the NFL doesn’t care, I don’t care. The NFL seems to have changed their tune on being “pro-player”. I don’t love it, but I can’t hate it. Change needs to come. Riot or loot, you belong in jail. Peaceful protest to your heart’s delight. If you see it as an issue between the employer and the employees, then you should have no problem. Here's what the Pegulas had to say when Bills players kneeled: "Our players have the freedom to express themselves in a respectful and thoughtful manner and we all agreed that our sole message is to provide and to promote an environment that is focused on love and equality." https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/2017/09/24/buffalo-bills-donald-trump-remarks-nfl-reaction/697856001/ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Kneeling on the guy’s neck. When you have a guy down and he doesn’t have a pulse and you keep kneeling on him was a Whoa! Moment. So I started talking to folks I know that are black, and my kids’ friends. And they all tell me of how they have had moments when they are treated differently or pulled over for no reason. All stuff I probably knew but never really thought about. And I guess the final one involved my one daughter who is adopted from China. Her best friend was adopted the same day, went into a grocery store, and was told we don’t wait on your kind. Different ethnicity, same kind of prejudice. It has to stop. It seriously has to stop. So I’ll stand. But I’ll support folks protesting. And I’ll keep supporting the police who have an impossible job but get screwed by the few who abuse their authority. Great, thanks for the insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: My whole thing is.... I’m all for the recognition, bringing light to the issue all that. The anthem and the flag will always cause a controversy. Doesn’t mean either side is wrong. I just ask, is there anything that can be done before a game that 100% of us can get on board? Something everyone can appreciate and get behind that still serves the purpose of highlighting our society needs to focus on equality? Im not picking sides, just saying something could be done where 100% agree and 100% share the same message. Even all that happened over the past 3 weeks the message and coming together is all over the place. Fingers are pointed in 50 different directions and some think they have no role in the change needed. F that!!!! What’s the message? What can we all get behind and WE ALL need to be better!!!! I would support 5 minutes before the game. Statements, silent reflection. Something like that. But I don’t think that will make a loud enough statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Cal said: Reported on ESPN that Mayfield plans to knee during national anthem. If any Bills player does, I'm done. I could care less who 'kneels'! Just let us watch football and the hell with players personal views. What they do on the field interests me much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, LB48 said: I could care less who 'kneels'! Just let us watch football and the hell with players personal views. What they do on the field interests me much more. Their kneeling does not stop anyone from watching football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I care less about the kneeling and more about the drama and constant storyline that is the kneeling. Kickoff will be unbearable between Covid-19 and social justice storylines. Just give me football! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) I have a strong feeling about this! I am entitled to my opinion no matter what anyone else says. Please don’t push so-called “facts” on me. The other side doesn’t care about facts - they’re brainwashed by a corrupted and partial media. I have every right to my opinion and nothing anyone could say will ever make me change it. The Constitution says so! Edited June 14, 2020 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Just keep them in the locker room then for the anthem. You're on the clock gents. this 'on the clock' argument has been and continues to be one of the most pathetic ones around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, HOUSE said: The Browns been taking a knee for 50 years Let's give this the attention it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: My whole thing is.... I’m all for the recognition, bringing light to the issue all that. The anthem and the flag will always cause a controversy. Doesn’t mean either side is wrong. I just ask, is there anything that can be done before a game that 100% of us can get on board? Something everyone can appreciate and get behind that still serves the purpose of highlighting our society needs to focus on equality? Im not picking sides, just saying something could be done where 100% agree and 100% share the same message. Even all that happened over the past 3 weeks the message and coming together is all over the place. Fingers are pointed in 50 different directions and some think they have no role in the change needed. F that!!!! What’s the message? What can we all get behind and WE ALL need to be better!!!! How would that be a protest? A protest, by definition, has to be something that is disruptive. It has to be abnormal and socially unacceptable to get recognition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I have a strong feeling about this! I am entitled to my opinion no matter what anyone else says. Please don’t push so-called “facts” on me. The other side doesn’t care about facts - they’re brainwashed by a corrupted and partial media. I have every right to my opinion and nothing anyone could say will ever make me change it. The Constitution says so! Same thing can be said about both sides...but hey... go ahead and keep your us vs them mentality. It seems to really be working for America right now. Edited June 14, 2020 by Lagoon Blues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 It used to annoy me when players kneeled during the game or after a TD, Tebow used to drive me nuts because it seemed like he said the whole rosary before he got back up and the networks always showed it. But so what, I had to deal with it and I came aware unharmed. Who really pays attention to the Anthem while watching on TV anyway, most of the time the networks don't even show it, unless some superstar does the singing. And if your so god damned patriotic while at the game, put your hand on your heart and look towards the flag, you won't even notice any of the players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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