BoBills20 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: His age is the biggest plus for Diggs...also his speed, other than that he doesn't do anything better than Thielen. He's universally regarded as one of the best route runners in football.. makes defenders look silly. Thielen is also very good in that area, but it's easier to create separation in the slot, where Thielen does most of his work. I don't have the numbers to back this up (aka don't feel like going back), but IIRC Thielen gets shut down in games Diggs hasn't played over the past few seasons, whereas Diggs still put up pretty big numbers in games that Thielen missed. All in all - definitely worth a 2nd rounder to find our #1 WR.. then we can take a CB/Edge at 22 to really round out the roster. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: So very true. We don't have the time or luxury to wait 2-3 years for a young wr to develop. We have to strike now over these next 3-4 years before big contracts come up. Trade for Diggs, sign Hunter Henry to compliment Knox and draft Tee Higgins or Reagor to learn. Our offense would explode. I imagine this is overblown. We have been in rebuilding mode and in the early stages of rebuilding with young talent you do not spend a ton on older players. Layer a few in to help the younger players adapt. As we are now in the win it mode I think he might look for some selective big ticket purchases that help put us over the top (e.g., Antonio Brown). I personally am not a big fan of paying top dollar for others players, but this does not strike me as top dollar and he definitely would fit a need so I am in favor (not that Beane and McDermott give a flying fig what I think - nor should they). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I always liked Diggs, he did develop an attitude but I’d still make the call and find out the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: His age is the biggest plus for Diggs...also his speed, other than that he doesn't do anything better than Thielen. but what exactly does thielen do better than Diggs? I like Thielen, he’s one of my favorite players and has a great story. But Diggs is a better receiver. Thielen seems like more of a “straight arrow” so he’s got that going for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What is this rift? https://www.google.com/amp/s/thevikingage.com/2020/02/18/report-minnesota-vikings-looking-move-diggs/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Theilen was hurt early in Game 7 and didn't come back to full snaps until game 15. Before he was hurt, Theilen was pulling in 61 ypg. That's less than Diggs ended up with (75) but it's not 3x less. Diggs did have a pahty in some of those Theilan-lessgames, but in others he got shut down. When they were both there, it was kind of "pick your poison" for other teams. Don't mistake me I like Diggs. If they want to trade him, we should be "IN". Nothing against Thielen, he’s a good player. I just think Diggs is probably seen as the better WR with the higher ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 My guess is he isn’t moved anywhere and this Instagram thing is business as usual for him. I would absolutely love to have him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/thevikingage.com/2020/02/18/report-minnesota-vikings-looking-move-diggs/amp/ I mean, yeah, he was unhappy when he had 2, 1, and 3 receptions, missed a practice, got fined. Then he played 14 more games and it seems like he made it up *shrug* I guess time will tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 This is one of the few "would ya" posts that make sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Diggs was much better than Thielen last year. One is generally better than the guy who misses a number of games with injuries. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan93 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Nothing can happen till March 18th at 4:00 pm. This isnt the first time Diggs deleted Vikings content of his IG account. Stay the course men dont loose sleep over it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: but what exactly does thielen do better than Diggs? I like Thielen, he’s one of my favorite players and has a great story. But Diggs is a better receiver. Thielen seems like more of a “straight arrow” so he’s got that going for him. I think Thielen is WAY more physical, he simply isn't going to be denied when the football is even in his vicinity. Diggs just doesn't seem interested in contact while Thielen welcomes it. I've seen Diggs not try often if a ball doesn't drop right into his hands while Thielen would be the dude who would dive full speed just for a chance at a catch anytime. Doesn't make many contested catches... Thielen is just selfless while Diggs seems to be going Diva Selfish route which is a shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I think Thielen is WAY more physical, he simply isn't going to be denied when the football is even in his vicinity. Diggs just doesn't seem interested in contact while Thielen welcomes it. I've seen Diggs not try often if a ball doesn't drop right into his hands while Thielen would be the dude who would dive full speed just for a chance at a catch anytime. Doesn't make many contested catches... Thielen is just selfless while Diggs seems to be going Diva Selfish route which is a shame. Dude...doesn’t make contested catches? Diggs? https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-the-nfls-top-receivers-in-contested-catch-situations I mean, I know it’s PFF and all, but, dude... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 For the love of all you find holy, get that deal made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, whatdrought said: but what exactly does thielen do better than Diggs? I like Thielen, he’s one of my favorite players and has a great story. But Diggs is a better receiver. Thielen seems like more of a “straight arrow” so he’s got that going for him. Thielen is excellent with his release against press coverage as he'll physically manhandle CB's with his upper body. Other than that Diggs is his equal or better in pretty much every aspect. Especially in and out of breaks and tracking the deep ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Dude...doesn’t make contested catches? Diggs? https://www.pff.com/news/pro-ranking-the-nfls-top-receivers-in-contested-catch-situations I mean, I know it’s PFF and all, but, dude... Wow, well apparently I've only seen the plays he quit on...or maybe my eyes were just glued to Thielen's rump too often 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I actually think Diggs is somewhat overrated. He'll have a huge week and then completely disappear for 3 or 4 games and then play well for 2 weeks and then quiet for another 2. Plus, he gets hurt all the time Edited February 19, 2020 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3rd an 2/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 No thanks. The guy is a nut job. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Conlan93 said: Nothing can happen till March 18th at 4:00 pm. This isnt the first time Diggs deleted Vikings content of his IG account. Stay the course men dont loose sleep over it?? Not saying anything is going down, but trades can be agreed upon in principle and leaked to the media now. They just can’t become official or announced by the team until 3/18. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: This has Patriots written all over it. Not sure Josh is ready to handle a diva receiver at this point in his career. Sad but true.....would give Marcia his #1 wideout and all the Cheatriots would need is a TE and BINGO......yet another SB for the cheaters..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 How anyone can so no to trading a 2nd for Diggs is laughable. He's a fantastic receiver on a pretty solid deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 47 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I think Thielen is WAY more physical, he simply isn't going to be denied when the football is even in his vicinity. Diggs just doesn't seem interested in contact while Thielen welcomes it. I've seen Diggs not try often if a ball doesn't drop right into his hands while Thielen would be the dude who would dive full speed just for a chance at a catch anytime. Doesn't make many contested catches... Thielen is just selfless while Diggs seems to be going Diva Selfish route which is a shame. None of this is accurate. Like not even close. He plays big. Diggs is worth a first. He’s a top 10 guy imo. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: Theilen was hurt. But he was still better than healthy Theilen. I know cuz I drafted Theilen in fantasy and he was grossly under performing even when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Would the Bills have to un-retire Sam Watkins' jersey number? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: I don’t hate the idea, but there’s a lot of red flags. - why is a team wanting to give up its best weapon? - what differentiates him from other diva receivers we’ve seen moved lately? (Moves that at the time seemed like no-brainers for the buyers, but turned out to be huge wins for the sellers) - is he going to want more money? If so, how much? - is it better to trade commodities and pay him as opposed to getting someone in this loaded draft class? Trade for Diggs and draft a WR. We need to overload on offensive talent. Then watch your young QB develop. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I think Thielen is WAY more physical, he simply isn't going to be denied when the football is even in his vicinity. Diggs just doesn't seem interested in contact while Thielen welcomes it. I've seen Diggs not try often if a ball doesn't drop right into his hands while Thielen would be the dude who would dive full speed just for a chance at a catch anytime. Doesn't make many contested catches... Thielen is just selfless while Diggs seems to be going Diva Selfish route which is a shame. You’re using play style to create arbitrary distinctions. Thielen is an X receiver who is asked to be big on the boundary, fight one on one with DB’s, and do more things that lend itself to contact. Diggs is more Z receiver, which moves him around, plays off the LOS and runs more deep routes which preclude jump balls. Furthermore, while Thielen is fighting through guys, Diggs is often times running by them. And, If you go look at highlights from this year (which I just did) you’ll see a huge number of examples where Diggs fights for extra yardage, taking on multiple defenders after the catch. I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that Diggs is not tough. He is a diva, that’s true, but he also has had to fight to make it in the NFL as a 7th round pick. As I said- I have nothing wrong with Thielen, love the guy. With the only exception being some of his attitude concerns, I think most informed people would consider Diggs a better receiver. It’s not a huge gap when they’re both healthy, and they’ve been very lucky to play off each other, but Diggs is more talented. Edited February 19, 2020 by whatdrought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 This was the scenario I’ve been dreaming of for the offseason. Buffalo has to make this move if it’s available. Game changing elite talent. Diggs fits this offense perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 can anyone here do a brandon beane impression? maybe frank caliendo can. lets get him to call the vikings and make the trade already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: But he was still better than healthy Theilen. I know cuz I drafted Theilen in fantasy and he was grossly under performing even when healthy. Theilen is a fantastic receiver and more versatile weapon on offense. He simply had an injury plagued year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I know this is a very crazy thought but imagine this. We trade a 2nd and maybe another later rnd pick for Diggs. Then sign 1 of Hooper or Hunter Henry. Use our 1st on the best DE that falls to us. I feel like our biggest issue would be RT then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1) Beane is a master of negotiation and value. Diggs was drafted in the 6th round...no way he offers a second round pick. He’ll offer two 7th rounders. 2) There is no way in hell Diggs wears #14 here in Buffalo. That‘s Sammy’s number!!! .....should have been retired when he left. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 too bad we didn’t keep Zay Jones, coulda included him in a ‘package’ deal ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said: 1) Beane is a master of negotiation and value. Diggs was drafted in the 6th round...no way he offers a second round pick. He’ll offer two 7th rounders. 2) There is no way in hell Diggs wears #14 here in Buffalo. That‘s Sammy’s number!!! .....should have been retired when he left. 1.) Diggs was drafted in the 5th round and Spielman is an above average GM who won't give him away for peanuts. It will be at least for a 1st round pick. 2.) The #14 will always be Frank Reich's number. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: This has Patriots written all over it.. He might want to play for a winner though next season... I would be all in on Diggs... Pick 54 won’t get it done though.. What about giving them 22 and getting 89 back from them in change? At least that puts us ahead of the bottom feeders at the top of the 2nd like Bengals and Dolphins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, MJS said: Theilen is a fantastic receiver and more versatile weapon on offense. He simply had an injury plagued year. I love Thielen. But he was having a down year before the injury. Diggs had the better year is all I was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Just to inject a little logic here. He's angry with the Vikings because they are now a run heavy offense and they don't throw him the ball enough. How exactly would coming here solve that problem for him? We’re not really a run heavy offense anymore. At least daboll has shown this isn’t his only approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: 1) Beane is a master of negotiation and value. Diggs was drafted in the 6th round...no way he offers a second round pick. He’ll offer two 7th rounders. 2) There is no way in hell Diggs wears #14 here in Buffalo. That‘s Sammy’s number!!! .....should have been retired when he left. Ferguson, you’re obviously not getting enough ruffage in your diet, enough sleep nor getting out enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Normally I just click on these threads to shake my head and get a chuckle out of a fan base that seemingly wants every single player out there...but Diggs, on that current contract, for a 2nd? Seems way too good to be true. Click-bait? Edited February 19, 2020 by QCity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 For a second it’s a yes for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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