Malazan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Such a loser.... playing in his 2nd straight AFC championship game. The waterboy for KC is also in his 2nd straight AFC championship game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I don't actually disagree with you all that much, but there are shades of grey here. The reason why Watkins is so tantalizing for fans is because when he's on, he's as talented as any receiver you'll see in the NFL. He's THAT talented (you could even see it yesterday). But yeah, the production has never matched the talent. He's still pretty young, so who knows. It'll be interesting to see if KC keeps him next season - he's entering year 3 of a 3-year contract. I agree with his level of talent. He truly is an enigma, someone who has tremendous explosion, really good speed, a pretty good route runner and a great frame. His problem aside from being injury prone is and has always been whats in between his ears. There is little need to rehash the numbers and quantifiable proof that he has been a tremendous disappointment pretty much everywhere he has gone. What gets me is that earlier this year there was a time when Tyreek Hill was injured and Sammy had every chance to shine. I honestly thought going into this year that THIS would be his year. That FINALLY he would show what he could do and started off with that amazing first game. You know the game where he had 9 catches nearly 200 yards receiving and 3 Touchdowns. Wow! I mean, just Wow! The rest of the year even with Tyreek out for some games he had 43 catches 475 with 0 touchdowns. Not only was he not catching the ball or getting touchdowns but averaged 10.5 yards per reception the remainder of the year. I mean, what happened? Yes, he was injured and missed a couple more games but early in the season when Tyreek was out he was healthy. Up to now, aside from him getting PAID, his football career has been almost tragic in the sense that it was the player with all this talent who never lived up to expectations. You're right in that he isn't old, he is in his prime. Maybe he turns it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I expect these type of threads in June, not January. The offseason is hitting us hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: The waterboy for KC is also in his 2nd straight AFC championship game Let’s make a move for him! Allen needs a WB1 Edited January 13, 2020 by nedboy7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Billy Claude said: I don't see anything that he should be criticized for. They were losing, he was depressed, a teammate told saw this and told him to buck up and he did. Whats wrong with that? Ya the OP is definitely reading too much into that tweet to suit their agenda. Confirmation bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Magox said: There is no rational case for anyone to not agree with what I stated. The only ones who disagree are the ones who vehemently thought that the sky was falling and were calling for Beane's head at the time and were so sure that it was the wrong decision and despite all the evidence, his lousy lack luster numbers, his continued penchant for being injured and not showing up for most of games that mattered, they can't admit that Beane made the right decision. It was the one of the most polarizing topics this board had witnessed over the past decade and they were so knee deep in that corner they just can't seem to come around to the same conclusion. Doesn't matter, that opinion is held by a dwindling few. I'm just glad that I was one of the ones from the very beginning to make the case why it was the right decision. Sammy had 76 receiving yards yesterday. In the last two Bills playoff games, the leading WRs from each game combined for 73 yards. Good thing Josh didn't have a guy who runs a 4.4, gets separation, can outjump every corner in the league, and is a YAC machine when he faced the Texans in the playoffs last week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: OOO Know Body language, and how did he react when a leader addressed it. Yep he played very well and contributed to a Win. This says NOTHING about a bad attitude jesus Bills fans are so thin skinned. If Allen slouches his head on sideline, or Oliver looks Sad because they are getting beat 24-0 are we going to want to run them out of town screaming BAD ATTITUDE. go look at Browns and Beasley body language at times do they have Bad Attitudes? Well no, not right now, right now they are competitive. Only after they leave Buffalo do they all of a sudden have bad attitudes ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: He had 90 yards from scrimmage yesterday and plays for a team that regularly distributes the ball to seven guys. Judging KC stats is hard to do because of how widely Mahomes distributes the ball. The fanboys also need to realize he had two catches in that game. One coming when the Chiefs already had a big lead. He’s not terrible, but his production isn’t at the level of where he was drafted, and thought of as a generational talent. He’s benefited from being on the Chiefs. His numbers are far from impressive there, they’d be very pedestrian on a typical offense. The dude was supposed to be dominant. 49 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Andy Reid can explain it to you. Swap out Duke/McKenzie for Sammy and this teams still playing. I’ve never seen Sammy catch that pass Duke dropped in the end zone. His inability to make contested catches was one of my biggest criticisms of him. Sammy is average with Mahomes, he’d no more productive than Brown was this season. Plus he’s hurt half the season. Edited January 13, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: The fanboys also need to realize he had two catches in that game. One coming when the Chiefs already had a big lead. He’s not terrible, but his production isn’t at the level of where he was drafted, and thought of as a generational talent. He’s benefited from being on the Chiefs. His numbers are far from impressive there, they’d be very pedestrian on a typical offense. The dude was supposed to be dominant. It’s telling to our situation that he would be a #1 in Buffalo when he is like the 4th best option in the passing game for KC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Troll Toll said: It’s telling to our situation that he would be a #1 in Buffalo when he is like the 4th best option in the passing game for KC. I agree, but still believe John Brown was just as productive as Sammy could have been last season. Watkins isn’t DeAndre Hopkins or Michael Thomas. Brown had a good season, but people will always assume Watkins is better because he was drafted higher, and came into the league with more hoopla. John Brown isn’t dominant, but neither is Sammy Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Yeah, this is really a poor attempt to thrown shade at Sammy. Everybody on that sideline and every fan of the Chiefs had poor body language at 24-0. It's human nature. Stop saying he is not mature, that's foolish Sammy touched the ball 3 times yesterday for 90 yards. If used properly he can still produce. Kelce & Hill are getting 95% of the touches I'm not saying we should ever bring him back but when healthy he can still produce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: The fanboys also need to realize he had two catches in that game. One coming when the Chiefs already had a big lead. He’s not terrible, but his production isn’t at the level of where he was drafted, and thought of as a generational talent. He’s benefited from being on the Chiefs. His numbers are far from impressive there, they’d be very pedestrian on a typical offense. The dude was supposed to be dominant. I’ve never seen Sammy catch that pass Duke dropped in the end zone. His inability to make contested catches was one of my biggest criticisms of him. Sammy is average with Mahomes, he’d no more productive than Brown was this season. Plus he’s hurt half the season. I watched the condensed replay today. Watkins was targeted twice and had two catches for 76 yards. Interestingly enough, the Texans jumped offside twice in that game. Both times, Mahomes threw it deep to him. When Pat had a free play, Watkins was his guy to target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Billy Claude said: I don't see anything that he should be criticized for. They were losing, he was depressed, a teammate told saw this and told him to buck up and he did. Whats wrong with that? And then he made some plays for his team on the field to help them win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, KD in CA said: Decoy Sammy actually had a couple nice plays yesterday. Decoy Sammy is poised for a big game this week, if Vrabel is smart and rolls coverage to Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark80 said: The problem with Sammy is not his attitude. It his ability to stay on the field. If he were able to stay healthy, his career would have been much, much different. I agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I agree, but still believe John Brown was just as productive as Sammy could have been last season. Watkins isn’t DeAndre Hopkins or Michael Thomas. Brown had a good season, but people will always assume Watkins is better because he was drafted higher, and came into the league with more hoopla. John Brown isn’t dominant, but neither is Sammy Watkins. I agree, I don’t want us to pursue Watkins, just calling it like I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: And then he made some plays for his team on the field to help them win. Exactly, the hate is strong on here with former players. There are a lot of former players I wish we would kept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Sammy would be a luxury for the Bills. There will always be questions about his availability. I'm curious if he gets yet another big payday. I also wonder if we will ever see that huge year from him. Sure looks like the crazy explosiveness is still there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 He still has Whaley's stink all over him. Poor guy never had a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Sammy is an interesting case. I never had a problem with him when he was here, and I was genuinely shocked when he was traded away. I didn't really speak out because I believed in giving the brand-new regime a chance. Since then, I have noticed some of the names of the posters who continue to miss & defend him the most, and now I am very, very happy his punk ass is gone. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: I’ve never seen Sammy catch that pass Duke dropped in the end zone. His inability to make contested catches was one of my biggest criticisms What are you talking about ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrwEpKYHWk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: What are you talking about ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrwEpKYHWk Forgot that one play. He does have games where he looks elite, but he also disappears and is injured far too often. I’m not saying he’s bad, just saying that he’s not worth the price. Edited January 13, 2020 by SirAndrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Only posting this since some folks have mentioned him as a potential FA WR target, and said he's grown and matured since his last run with the Bills. This tells me differently. Sammy was a stud and we should have kept him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Such a loser.... playing in his 2nd straight AFC championship game. Hmm they lose in championship game twice in row. I see the correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Something mentally wrong with Sammy Watkins. A. Great physical talent but a waste when it comes to Football with a weak mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wppete said: Something mentally wrong with Sammy Watkins. A. Great physical talent but a waste when it comes to Football with a weak mind. Maybe our future sports shrink can help him. waiting list isn’t too long yet with Hauschka and Allen Edited January 13, 2020 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Exactly, the hate is strong on here with former players. There are a lot of former players I wish we would kept. I don’t have anything against the guy. The problem with Watkins is the fact he’s not elite. As the forth overall pick, the cost to sign the guy has always outweighed his oft injured production. He’s simply not worth what it takes to sign as far as value is concerned. I’m convinced that John Brown gave us just as much or more than Sammy would have. Brown had really good numbers this season, and they were better than Watkins (who plays with Mahomes). Edited January 14, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Four straight years of under 700 yards receiving. Only 3 TD's in two straight years. He's a backup caliber WR. Plain and simple. He'll never be a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Sammy is a classic big fish small pond. He was lauded on from pee wee to Clemson. IN NFL not such a big fish. Poor Sammy. . . .Waahhaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Only posting this since some folks have mentioned him as a potential FA WR target, and said he's grown and matured since his last run with the Bills. This tells me differently. Overpaid and overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Wonderful Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) I have no relationship to Sammy but it's not his fault dumbass Whaley traded up to draft him. He had elite talent but caught the injury bug. For all those bashing him he's more than likely going to play in a superbowl. Whaley was also the genius who passed on Mahomes so bash him instead. Allen might turn out to be good but there isn't a football fan alive who wouldn't trade Allen for Mahomes. Scoreboard. Edited January 14, 2020 by Mr. Wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Sammy is a classic big fish small pond. He was lauded on from pee wee to Clemson. IN NFL not such a big fish. Poor Sammy. . . .Waahhaha If only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The mascot had bad body language. He was pounding his head into a wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Decoy Sammy is poised for a big game this week, if Vrabel is smart and rolls coverage to Kelce. Byard will handle Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Sammy looked a little bummed when KC was down 24-0 (a considerable deficit) a teammate told him to be more positive and he became more positive. This is a non-story. I get why Sammy has a bit of a rep in how he left the Bills and Rams but he hasn't really had much going on as far as being a major issue on KC (Unless I am missing something.) His bigger issue isn't in the locker room but rather due to his inability to stay healthy. I don't think Sammy even if he stayed healthy was ever going to live up to his draft hype (This guy was being seriously compared to some HOF type players coming out of the draft.) But I do think that if Sammy could stay healthy he could be a DeSean Jackson type burner WR1. He just has to stay healthy and keep himself from getting into any drama (Which on KC he has.) Overall I just don't particularly care about him, it has been 3 seasons since he has been here. Move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Such a loser.... playing in his 2nd straight AFC championship game. He’s putting up some generational numbers that’s for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Lurker said: What's wrong Sammy? Is that a biceps tear? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Sammy looked a little bummed when KC was down 24-0 (a considerable deficit) a teammate told him to be more positive and he became more positive. This is a non-story. I get why Sammy has a bit of a rep in how he left the Bills and Rams but he hasn't really had much going on as far as being a major issue on KC (Unless I am missing something.) His bigger issue isn't in the locker room but rather due to his inability to stay healthy. I don't think Sammy even if he stayed healthy was ever going to live up to his draft hype (This guy was being seriously compared to some HOF type players coming out of the draft.) But I do think that if Sammy could stay healthy he could be a DeSean Jackson type burner WR1. He just has to stay healthy and keep himself from getting into any drama (Which on KC he has.) Overall I just don't particularly care about him, it has been 3 seasons since he has been here. Move on. See my post at the bottom of page one of this thread — the SI story about him firing up the kickoff returner when they were down 24-0. The premise behind this entire thread is basically false regardless of his interactions with Kelce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It's depressing being a Flat-Earther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, wppete said: Something mentally wrong with Sammy Watkins. A. Great physical talent but a waste when it comes to Football with a weak mind. You spelled Josh Allen wrong. Edited January 14, 2020 by Billl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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