YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Is that code for Daboll to play call fearless and give Singletary the ball 26 times this weekend? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 You mean like the last drive of the Cleveland game? LOL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Does that mean Josh can let it rip? Is the prevent defense a thing of the past, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Daboll can face his fears and make this a run first team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. I don't believe that for a minute. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 This could be great... If they listen. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, par73 said: You mean like the last drive of the Cleveland game? LOL Or a response to that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I think it means the training wheels have to come off for Allen. 20 starts under his belt. Let’s see what young Josh can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, par73 said: You mean like the last drive of the Cleveland game? LOL Yup. If you want guys to play fearless, you have to coach fearless. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I am delighted to hear this. I felt the plays calls in the last couple of games were very conservative. Like they were taking it easy to be sure to get different things "right". I think providing the players with more freedom and flexibility will pay off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfball323 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) This is the type of message that can be confusing to players. McDermott is conservative in nature and coaches that way. He's been successful coaching that way. Rolling the dice now and saying, "Play Fearless" goes against a lot of the messages that he's sent to these players in the last three years. We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited November 13, 2019 by golfball323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. I tend to agree with your first 2 sentences as to how McDermott/Daboll have handled Josh Allen to begin the season. I will even state that my opinion of McDermott's offensive philosophy may even be a notch toward conservative vs wide open. I think you and others are confused because of what I believe are preconceived notions of his extent of conservatism. The only way to determine which of us are correct will be to see how the offense plays next next handful of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. Bad things could definitely happen if they let Allen play his game. Making him play scared/safe might minimize the bad things, but it also kills production. I'd rather take the bad with the good and score some points. 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 There is a fine line between playing reckless and playing uninhibited. Clearly, Josh Allen has been holding back this season, and I think this has been by design. They need to do a combination of both strategies. Teach him and encourage him to be a pocket passer as much as possible, but give him license to let it rip (on the ground or through the air) if it’s there. I think he’s stagnating and frustrated. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 play FEARLESSLY. im not a fan of how nouns, verbs, and adverbs just all get the same morphology. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, golfball323 said: This is the type of message that can be confusing to players. McDermott is conservative in nature and coaches that way. He's been successful coaching that way. Rolling the dice now and saying, "Play Fearless" goes against a lot of the messages that he's sent to these players in the last three years. We'll See ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Not when it comes to going for it on 4th downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) I just wish Kiko was still in Miami so we could watch him twirl around like a ballerina again this week Edited November 13, 2019 by H2o 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Well, I've complained that they drafted a gunslinger and tried to turn him into a game manager. It's a strange message from a staff that has seemed to have the opposite message. Hopefully, they've learned and can find the right balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Yawn, coachspeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) How about you COACH Fearless??? and all this tells me is that McD and Company were always in his head about being safe. No wonder why he looked like an over trained show dog. And ass we say in the military Paralysis by Analysis. Edited November 13, 2019 by MAJBobby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think this is great! They've realized that he was bypassing open receivers because of the emphasis on avoiding interceptions. It's a constant back and forth with a young, raw QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 These responses are so stupid. He really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He says "play fearless," some idiot says "coach fearless" like he isn't one of the most aggressive coaches on fourth down or this is somehow bad coaching. He says "don't play fearless," and he would get criticized being too conservative. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) Good Josh. Start scrambling again for 90 yards a game when things break down in the pocket and hang on to the damn ball! Edited November 13, 2019 by zow2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: These responses are so stupid. He really is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He says "play fearless," some idiot says "coach fearless" like he isn't one of the most aggressive coaches on fourth down or this is somehow bad coaching. He says "don't play fearless," and he would get criticized being too conservative. Its because it is nonsense. Like you can have a green light to play fearless? That is a state of mind not an order. Or like there is some switch to turn it on or off. Come on now. He starts hitting his passes and building some confidence some of that fear goes away. But right now even Josh Allen knows he is not playing how he should...either he can rise to the challenge or not. Not some ok coach said I can do it yay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: This staff has done everything BUT allow Allen to play fearlessly. He is kept on a very short leash because they know if they let him go sandlot, bad things are going to happen. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean in the context of Allen's play or McD's ultra conservative approach to the sport of football. I guess we will find out this weekend. With Josh making a statement like that, they may just let him go out and rip it and let the chips fall where they may. Getting a green light like that can do a ton for your confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Message to McDermott, get the ball in Singletary's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, ngbills said: Its because it is nonsense. Like you can have a green light to play fearless? That is a state of mind not an order. Or like there is some switch to turn it on or off. Come on now. He starts hitting his passes and building some confidence some of that fear goes away. But right now even Josh Allen knows he is not playing how he should...either he can rise to the challenge or not. Not some ok coach said I can do it yay. Is it not code for "don't be so afraid of mistakes. We will not ride you if you throw an interception." What would JA be afraid of? Probably turnovers. If he is told to be fearless, it seems like they are also saying don't be so afraid of turnovers. That is definitely more than coach speak. And even if it is coach speak, who cares? Do you really expect JA to get into the Xs and Os of what he discusses with the coaching staff? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Honestly, if we lost to the Dolphins and Allen threw 2 INTs, but threw for over 300 yards and played fearless, I’d take. Let the kid see what he’s got. Stop putting a ceiling on him before he’s matured 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honestly, if we lost to the Dolphins and Allen threw 2 INTs, but threw for over 300 yards and played fearless, I’d take. Let the kid see what he’s got. Stop putting a ceiling on him before he’s matured Me too. But I'd prefer fearless Josh , 300yds 2 ints and win Dolphins game Best plays of Josh are in 4th quarter when we are trailing and he must risk. Allow him to play the whole game in his style. At least it'll be fun to watch unlike Tyrod-eaque caution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, par73 said: You mean like the last drive of the Cleveland game? LOL You know, if Denzel Ward wasn't such a good corner, the take on the playcalling on that drive would be a lot different. The Bills tried to get the ball way down the field to their best offensive player who was in single coverage, which is not a bad idea! Ward simply made a terrific play. There's a reason he was a top-five pick. Good players on the other side sometimes make plays that blow up good plans. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Yup. If you want guys to play fearless, you have to coach fearless. Exactly right. Playing for a 53 yard field goal after your team marches down the field is the opposite fearless. Did Sean sit the coaches down and say the same thing? Did Sean realize he has to play to win?! I soooo want to believe we will see a different team against Miami. It really is time to show they can oppose their will on a team like Miami. Last year the Bills blew out a couple teams starting this time of year. Be nice to see them do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honestly, if we lost to the Dolphins and Allen threw 2 INTs, but threw for over 300 yards and played fearless, I’d take. Let the kid see what he’s got. Stop putting a ceiling on him before he’s matured I don't care about yardage at all, really - I care about ypa. If he's hitting 8.5 ypa in a game, that's elite-level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, par73 said: You mean like the last drive of the Cleveland game? LOL Allen checked into and threw a deep ball with the game on the line, which was dumb, but fearless. Edited November 13, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Virgil said: Honestly, if we lost to the Dolphins and Allen threw 2 INTs, but threw for over 300 yards and played fearless, I’d take. Let the kid see what he’s got. Stop putting a ceiling on him before he’s matured lol what. Since when did turning the ball over and losing to a bad team become something we’d be good with? Edited November 13, 2019 by Bangarang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'd be happy if we spread it out, only used Knox and occasionally Croft, No SMITH. And, let Josh be himself, give the ball to Singletary and aim for a 50/50 Run/Pass breakdown. We will run better and throw better if they do that. AND SCORE MORE POINTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsVet said: Yesterday there was a thread about coaching philosophy similarities McD and Jauron share. Well, it terms of public relations, McD far surpasses DJ as evidenced the HC's team message today Of course this is going to come out via Chris Brown and not coincidentally it's timed precisely to address an issue highlighted on TBD. Because the HC has been criticized for coaching not to lose and avoiding risks in high pressure situations. DJ and/or Bills media would never do anything like this to blunt any team or HC criticism. Man you are one for conspiracies.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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