What Would You Give UP for A.J. Green?

[PetermansRedemption]

2 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

If Cinci goes 0-3, I believe they will put Green on the trade block. The question then becomes, what playoff contender pays the highest for him. Personally, I think he  gets traded for a 4th round pick.

That’s something I would pay for A.J. Green. Wouldn’t go much more given age, contract status, and injury history. 

[H2o]

A 5th that could conditionally become a 4th depending on availability. The Bengals are going into a rebuild here shortly imo, especially if we can win the game on Sunday. They will probably look to be moving what they can for draft assets. I would give up nothing higher than a 4th though. 

[KGun12TD]

Some wings and Molson Canadien?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...nothing...many of the TBD posters who are astute on college ball said "the 2020 WR Class could be THE best in years".............think I read there are 2 or 3 candidates at 'Bama alone.....

[Charles Romes]

I’d give it a few weeks to assess whether we can make a legitimate run at the Lombardi THIS YEAR. Then, go for it with a second round pick.  

[mannc]

6 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

Have a feeling Ford will end up being the right choice

I hope you’re right, but the early returns aren’t super encouraging.

[Rigotz]

4 hours ago, CSBill said:

I'd give them Zay and mid-round draft pick.

 

This is probably the best idea out of the lot. Makes sense for both teams.

 

Regarding giving away "at least a 1st round pick" for him... that's a pretty bad look for you. Good idea, bad execution.

[Solomon Grundy]

7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Easily without question would give up a 4th.  

 

I would be hesitant for a 3rd, but wouldn’t hate it either, and be reluctant if we they wanted a 2nd given next year should be a great WR draft.

 

But AJ Green , Smoke, And Beasley would be one hell of a combo going into playoffs to have to defend.  

 

 

That would be adequate compensation to me as well. Now, my question is do you trade for Jalen Ramsey?

[CommonCents]

AJ Green is burnt toast. 

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No he's not.

 

He was for a couple of years, but hasn't been for a while.

 

Hard pass.

You are flat out wrong.  He was dominant last year.  I had him in fantasy and watched him frequently, he is still an absolute beast when he is out there.  He played the first 9 games last year before his foot injury and had 46 catches, for 694 yards and 6 TD's.  That is 82 catches, 1233 yards and 11 TD's over 16 games, but he hasn't been great in "awhile" lmao.  I feel like you saw that Green has been out for a bit, looked at his age and just determined that he isn't a great player anymore.  People can say what they want about his injuries but suggesting that A.J. Green hasn't been a top level receiver for awhile is absolutely absurd.  

15 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

This is probably the best idea out of the lot. Makes sense for both teams.

 

Regarding giving away "at least a 1st round pick" for him... that's a pretty bad look for you. Good idea, bad execution.

Pretty bad look for me eh?  I guess I can kiss my burgeoning NFL front office career goodbye then, what a disappointment.  Pretty bad look?  An anonymous person suggesting on football fan message board trading a first round pick for AJ Green is "a pretty bad look" lol.  I tremble at thought of the repercussions that will come from me looking so bad from suggesting such a thing.  I feel like "pretty bad look for you" is something you probably say way too often in your life and when it really doesn't apply.

Edited September 17, 2019 by K-GunJimKelly12

[Mr. WEO]

17 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

You are flat out wrong.  He was dominant last year.  I had him in fantasy and watched him frequently, he is still an absolute beast when he is out there.  He played the first 9 games last year before his foot injury and had 46 catches, for 694 yards and 6 TD's.  That is 82 catches, 1233 yards and 11 TD's over 16 games, but he hasn't been great in "awhile" lmao.  I feel like you saw that Green has been out for a bit, looked at his age and just determined that he isn't a great player anymore.  People can say what they want about his injuries but suggesting that A.J. Green hasn't been a top level receiver for awhile is absolutely absurd.  

 

 

 

Good thing I didn't say that then....

 

Anyway, extrapolating stats is a fool's game.  Over 1200 yards?  He's done that 3 times in 8 years--the last time was 4 years ago.  Contrast that with AB (last 6 seasons over 1200, 3 0ver 1400) and Jones (last 5 seasons over 1200 yards, 4 of them over 1400).

[Dopey]

9 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

A set of crutches and a bottle of Percocet.

 

 

mmmm, Percocet.

[dollars 2 donuts]

8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Easily without question would give up a 4th.  

 

I would be hesitant for a 3rd, but wouldn’t hate it either, and be reluctant if we they wanted a 2nd given next year should be a great WR draft.

 

But AJ Green , Smoke, And Beasley would be one hell of a combo going into playoffs to have to defend.  

 

 

 

 

Hmmm, Alpha, who would you cut?  

 

Buddy, I am kidding, you know I am.  However, I not only agree with you on the above, but I am there with you on the excitement level meter.  This is worth looking into.  If he is back in a couple of weeks I am willing to have AJ Green be a rent a player, if need be.  

 

Is he a risk?  Yes.

 

Does he make this team better?  Absolutely he does.

[Dopey]

45 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

I’d give it a few weeks to assess whether we can make a legitimate run at the Lombardi THIS YEAR. Then, go for it with a second round pick.  

Those few weeks would also allow Green to show he's back and healthy. If so, I go with a 4th, maybe a 3rd, maybe. Depending on how good he looks and how the physical checks out.

[Royale with Cheese]

I'd give a 3rd.

[badassgixxer05]

20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Good thing I didn't say that then....

 

Anyway, extrapolating stats is a fool's game.  Over 1200 yards?  He's done that 3 times in 8 years--the last time was 4 years ago.  Contrast that with AB (last 6 seasons over 1200, 3 0ver 1400) and Jones (last 5 seasons over 1200 yards, 4 of them over 1400).

Greene is still a legit #1(still below AB and Jones i would agree but not by much). AB and Jones both played in pass happy offenses. The Ginger isn't known for slinging the rock around like that. Watch AB this year,  i doubt he puts up ridiculous numbers without Big Ben.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

What about Larry Fitzgerald?  I wouldn’t give up to much as he doesn’t have many years left, maybe a 4 or 5.  The other issue is he’s pretty established in Az and not sure he’d be willing to go anywhere else.

[foreboding]

Love him and no diva. But he cant stay on the field anymore.

[CBD]

UFA at the end of the year, 31 years old coming off a foot injury, for the right to rent him for 10ish games plus maybe playoffs, i'll give a 5th. 

[nucci]

He has injured his feet often....those are hard to recover from. You don't trade for an injured player right now

[DrDawkinstein]

I'm big AJ Green fan going back to his days at UGA. I will always say he made Dalton's career. But... Aging, Injured, and Expensive. I'd give them a 4th, nothing more. Especially going into next year's WR-heavy draft.

[RyanC883]

9 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

A 3rd would be good if Green could stay healthy. He is still relatively young, and it would give the Bills time to develop another WR. 

 

I'd do a 4th, and make it a 3rd if he stays healthy.  Also extend him. 

 

Then you have AJ, Brown, Beasley, and 2020 draft pick.  When AJ retires in 4+ years, you still have a decent WR corp.  Oh, and we still have Foster who could go in this year on 4 wide.  Good luck defenses.  

[Rocket94]

1 minute ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I'd do a 4th, and make it a 3rd if he stays healthy.  Also extend him. 

 

Then you have AJ, Brown, Beasley, and 2020 draft pick.  When AJ retires in 4+ years, you still have a decent WR corp.  Oh, and we still have Foster who could go in this year on 4 wide.  Good luck defenses.  

Thats just it...Healthy! The Bills are on the rise and Green would be excellent.

[mikemac2001]

Zay Jones 

[Warren Zevon]

Conditional 4th in 2020 that can become a 3rd and 5th in 2020 if the Bills extend him

Edited September 17, 2019 by Gary Busey

[Teddy KGB]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No he's not.

 

He was for a couple of years, but hasn't been for a while.

 

Hard pass.

 

15 yards a catch and 14 tds in 17/18 while missing games ?   

 

Hes still as good as anyone when he can suit up.      

[billsfan_34]

Nothing- the injuries and age are a concern.

[DuckyBoys]

Bengals would be wise to move him while he has any value left  Don't McCoy it and end up releasing him before 2020 rolls around  They have two young budding wrs  That said maybe make a call and throw out a 4th or 5th

[MR8]

5th in 2020 with a conditional 6th in 2021 depending on performance, games played, and if we re-sign him.

 

He's great when healthy but as has been said over and over again in this thread, that's almost never.  He's hitting the "past his prime" years, but he's still a presence on the field and makes some good plays.  Picture TO at the end of his career but not as healthy.  

 

I'd take a late round flier on him to round out this WR Group... but I wouldn't do much more than that. 

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

6 minutes ago, MR8 said:

Picture TO at the end of his career but not as healthy.  

 

 

Not even close to accurate.

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, the skycap said:

That would be adequate compensation to me as well. Now, my question is do you trade for Jalen Ramsey?

 

I would pass on Ramsey for a few reasons personally even though he’s very talented.  

 

1 - I’m not sure his personality fits our culture and locker room.

 

2 - I think Levi Wallace is pretty good, so Ramsey isn’t a big need.

 

3 - He’s going to want an insane contract next year, and I would rather have Levi on his contract opposite Tre than having to pay Ramsey what he will want.  

[MR8]

11 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

Not even close to accurate.

 

Very insightful, thanks... 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Hmmm, Alpha, who would you cut?  

 

Buddy, I am kidding, you know I am.  However, I not only agree with you on the above, but I am there with you on the excitement level meter.  This is worth looking into.  If he is back in a couple of weeks I am willing to have AJ Green be a rent a player, if need be.  

 

Is he a risk?  Yes.

 

Does he make this team better?  Absolutely he does.

 

Haha I enjoy your jokes bud, all good haha

[Nextmanup]

I would want to see a lot more out of Allen, over the course of this entire season.

If he keeps developing and surprising, this coming off-season might be the time to go out and buy him an expensive, fancy WR.

 

Too early right now.

 

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Haha I enjoy your jokes bud, all good haha

 

 

Brown, Beasely AND AJ Green...seriously, Alpha, we start to go to another level.

 

Yes, everybody, it's not Green from 2015 or so.  However, I am also not even remotely thinking about 2020, or 2021.

 

...man, we just could use another solid weapon for the remainder of 2019.

Edited September 17, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts

[Lurker]

Green beans.     Maybe oatmeal.   

 

Certainly not Ovaltine

 

Edited September 17, 2019 by Lurker

[DefenseWins]

https://heavy.com/sports/2019/09/bengals-aj-green-injury-status-return/

 

I just can't see giving up much for a 31yr old WR with his injury history and needing to be resigned after this season. Maybe a 4th at best? Even if he would sign an extension immediately I'm not sure how much you could commit to him financially at this time. Doesn't sound like he would be ready to play yet for several weeks. Is he really worth the trouble?

 

[Alphadawg7]

6 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Brown, Beasely AND AJ Green...seriously, Alpha, we start to go to another level.

 

Yes, everybody, its not Green from 2015 or so.  However, I also not even remotely thinking about 2020, or 2021.

 

...man, we just could use another solid weapon for the remainder of 2019.

 

Yup...Guarantee AJ Green puts up more than 18 and 14 yards and doesn’t drop that TD pass either.

 

I mean I don’t know how a defense can consistently defend an offense of Smoke and healthy AJ outside without Cole in the slot catching passes from an accurate and big arm QB who can also run.  We could be a nightmare matchup, not to mention capable TE’s and Singletary to worry about.  

 

So I think we go to another level too.  AJ isn’t even close to being done as a WR IMO either.  He’s an injury risk sure, but when healthy he’s still one of the best WRs in the game.  I would take that chance personally, but also wouldn't over pay either with a strong WR class next year.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yup...Guarantee AJ Green puts up more than 18 and 14 yards and doesn’t drop that TD pass either.

 

I mean I don’t know how a defense can consistently defend an offense of Smoke and healthy AJ outside without Cole in the slot catching passes from an accurate and big arm QB who can also run.  We could be a nightmare matchup, not to mention capable TE’s and Singletary to worry about.  

 

So I think we go to another level too.  AJ isn’t even close to being done as a WR IMO either.  He’s an injury risk sure, but when healthy he’s still one of the best WRs in the game.  I would take that chance personally, but also wouldn't over pay either with a strong WR class next year.

I love Green, but I'm concerned he's going to be hobbled all season, never being more than 80-85 percent. 

[Alphadawg7]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

I love Green, but I'm concerned he's going to be hobbled all season, never being more than 80-85 percent. 

 

I thought he had surgery to repair and make full recovery?  I honestly did not follow his situation that closely though.  Are you familiar with his injury?  Is it something that’s hard to fully recover?  If it’s something problematic then yeah that would certainly raise the risk level and reduce the compensation further to risk on a trade.