PJBrown7 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I didn’t see him today?...am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, PJBrown7 said: I didn’t see him today?...am I missing something? Yes. You missed Jerry Hughes. When is the last time this man missed a game? He's a beast. One of the most durable players in the NFL. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJBrown7 Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 So where was he? Injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He was out there, but with so many rotations and the emphasis on stopping the run it looked like Lawson took some of his snaps over on Hughes side today. I’d be interested in seeing the snap counts on the D line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Our DEs weren’t good today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 DE's did not get much pressure but I also did not see them run many stunts. Seemed like it was a vanilla pass rush. I think they wanted to keep guys in their lanes to avoid getting gashed by the run. 9 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Our DEs weren’t good today. Our DEs did play well. They made a determined effort to stay in their lanes and not allow plays to get outside of them. Also, they stayed in their lanes so Barkley, the best back in the league, wouldn't have much space in the middle to gash through. With the exception of the first drive they didn't make the mistake of playing with reckless abandon and get caught out of positon but instead played responsibly and in control. Overall, our defensive line played cohesively and effectively. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 They did a great job shutting down SB -- and by extension the Giants -- after the first quarter. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: They did a great job shutting down SB -- and by extension the Giants -- after the first quarter. This. I think after that first drive, the whole D was keyed in on SB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I’m not an expert but I think after that first drive our D line was told to stay in their run lanes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, KD in CA said: They did a great job shutting down SB -- and by extension the Giants -- after the first quarter. Exactly! The key to beating the Giants today was containing Barkley. Frazier wasn’t worried about getting pressure, it was more about plugging running lanes and keeping edge containment. Eli wasn’t going to beat us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: They did a great job shutting down SB -- and by extension the Giants -- after the first quarter. Exactly. Barkley had over 100 yards rushing, but 55 of those yards was on the first series of the game. The DE's may not have lit up the stat sheet with sacks, but they helped out. The Giants only got 14 points today. I'm satisfied with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Very quite day for Hughes and he didn't seem to be in the field as much as what we're used to. I'm very interested in what we see from him next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, JohnC said: Our DEs did play well. They made a determined effort to stay in their lanes and not allow plays to get outside of them. Also, they stayed in their lanes so Barkley, the best back in the league, wouldn't have much space in the middle to gash through. With the exception of the first drive they didn't make the mistake of playing with reckless abandon and get caught out of positon but instead played responsibly and in control. Overall, our defensive line played cohesively and effectively. 100% correct. With a beast like Barkley to worry about, they gave up sacks for contain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He was quiet today. Guessing he’s hurt or LT is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 our defense was content to let Eli have time in the pocket to throw the ball instead of attacking the pocket with a pass rush. That is why our pass rush looked so invisible and the defense did not blitz much today. It was by design to hold Barkley to minimal gains. If McDermott was going to let the defense get beat it was going to be by Manning, not Barkley, our pass rush is fine. Hughes is fine, Murphy is fine, Lawson is fine, Darryl Johnson is fine. (He got banged up but came back into the game). WOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Could be two-fold: 1) Contain Barkley 2) Giants have a pretty good OL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 It seems like for many posters here if Hughes doesn’t have a bunch of sacks in a game he had a bad game. Of course this is not true! Just a bit more complex than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: This. I think after that first drive, the whole D was keyed in on SB. We might have lost by 30 without the adjustments. I’m happy to have Jerry seem invisible if it leads to a win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Next years draft is deep at DE and WR. We can’t go wrong with either position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: Could be two-fold: 1) Contain Barkley 2) Giants have a pretty good OL Giants have invested big time in their OLine: they gave a monster contract to Nate Solder last year, drafted Will Hernandez high and traded for Kevin Zeitler (part of the mega OBJ deal). That's a very solid OLine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: DE's did not get much pressure but I also did not see them run many stunts. Seemed like it was a vanilla pass rush. I think they wanted to keep guys in their lanes to avoid getting gashed by the run. After getting gashed in the run game on the first drive they played more contain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 40 minutes ago, KD in CA said: They did a great job shutting down SB -- and by extension the Giants -- after the first quarter. I gotta wonder though, after that opening drive where Barklay tore them up, it seemed that the Giants abandoned the running game, more than the Bills shut it down...terrible play calling on their part, seemed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Our DEs weren’t good today. They had to make adjustments for lane integrity, it slowed down Barkley, but eliminated some of the edge pressure. Turned out to be a beneficial adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, buffaloboyinATL said: They had to make adjustments for lane integrity, it slowed down Barkley, but eliminated some of the edge pressure. Turned out to be a beneficial adjustment. Not sure I buy this excuse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Smart D against a team that runs well but which has an old QB and injured WRs. Barkley might be the best RB in the league right now, and the Bills stopped him enough to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He was out there most of the day and got dominated. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Sacks and hits are not his only job. I was admittedly frustrated at the seeming lack of pressure out there but then whole 11 did what they needed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, PJBrown7 said: I didn’t see him today?...am I missing something? Yes. Stopping Barkley was clearly a much bigger priority as it should be. The Giants have perhaps the best RB in the NFL and Eli is just terrible as are his receivers right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Mojo44 said: It seems like for many posters here if Hughes doesn’t have a bunch of sacks in a game he had a bad game. Of course this is not true! Just a bit more complex than that Some are more interested in fantasy points than how they actually played. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 From my recollection, Solder has always done a good job against Jerry. It was no different today. Looked like the emphasis was on stopping Barkley and trusting our corners to blanket their assignments and hoping Eli was who we thought he was. He was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, PJBrown7 said: I didn’t see him today?...am I missing something? Yup. You’re missing something. You might be missing a lot of things actually. let me guess - you looked at the box score and didn't see him with 3 sacks so you decided to post. Edited September 16, 2019 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Yup. You’re missing something. You might be missing a lot of things actually. let me guess - you looked at the box score and didn't see him with 3 sacks so you decided to post. Maybe he did not look to see who Jerry was matched up most of game? Nate Solder who has always been a good OT and got a big $$ contract to come from New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Giants O-line is much better this year as they've only allowed one sack on the season (allowed zero to Dallas in the opener) and was rated the top line of week 1 by PFF. Four batted balls at the line, containing Barkley after the first drive, and getting enough pressure on Manning to have a lot of throwaways was encouraging though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Our pass rush stinks without blitzing or stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Our pass rush stinks without blitzing or stunts. They only rush 4 when they have a multiple score lead. That's what keeps the opposition in games. I wonder if anyone else notices that. You can't just rush 4 guys all the time and expect to get pressure all the time. There isn't a team on the planet that is that good to just bring 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, NewEra said: From my recollection, Solder has always done a good job against Jerry. It was no different today. Looked like the emphasis was on stopping Barkley and trusting our corners to blanket their assignments and hoping Eli was who we thought he was. He was. I was happy he signed with Giants and got out of AFC especially AFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Our pass rush stinks without blitzing or stunts. We should pry keep doing blitzes and stunts then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: We should pry keep doing blitzes and stunts then. We should. Keep the foot on the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 10 hours ago, DRA3196 said: our defense was content to let Eli have time in the pocket to throw the ball instead of attacking the pocket with a pass rush. That is why our pass rush looked so invisible and the defense did not blitz much today. It was by design to hold Barkley to minimal gains. If McDermott was going to let the defense get beat it was going to be by Manning, not Barkley, our pass rush is fine. Hughes is fine, Murphy is fine, Lawson is fine, Darryl Johnson is fine. (He got banged up but came back into the game). WOW!!! Darryl Johnson and Tom Sweeney were both seventh round picks. Both of them are playing and contributing. Neither player seems out of place. That's a tribute to the scouting department and coaching staff to get players and fit them in. It's too early to make a definitive judgment about this class but it appears to be turning into a sterling class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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