Bockeye Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 We all assume that there are better punters out there than what we already have, but why make that assumption when you really don't know? If someone better was available, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Very surprised we didn't pu some of these better options than sir shanksalot....If Bojo costs us a close game it will be on McB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 As the resident punting expert, I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a vast league-wide punter conspiracy against the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Bojo is like Peterman of punters to coaches. Idk, he might still hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Ralph is still cheap? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Seems like they explored a couple of options and it didn't work out so they're gonna roll with the guy they already know as opposed to swapping him out right before the season for a guy they don't know/trust. I think they had hoped one of the punter's would have performed better and got caught off guard a bit. A little late on this one. Edited September 7, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I mean if you look at a bunch of guys and none of them are a clear cut better option than what you have then you'd probably not risk cutting who you've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Very simple answer: They are waiting a week so if they bring in a veteran they don't have to guarantee his salary. In the meantime, Bojorquez has one week to change their minds. I hope he never has to punt this week and no wisecracks that it will be because of turnovers. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bockeye said: Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Who’s out there? Really, I don’t keep track of FA punters so if there is a viable option on the wire I am curious to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think with this upcoming season as we advance ahead on 6 wins, it's likely there will be alot of very close games. Field position will be critical. He struggled last year and this preseason. Guys like Colquitt, Miller, Anger and Allen were available and substantial upgrades. I think Sunday will be Bojos last stand. If he continues his 35 yard shankers with little hang time there's no doubt Sean will release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 What are we talking about... 3-4 yards here and there MAYBE? He has had some good ones and has been part of the team. Maybe the coaching staff has decided it's not worth the hassle. We'll either be good enough to win with an OK punter or we're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: What are we talking about... 3-4 yards here and there MAYBE? He has had some good ones and has been part of the team. Maybe the coaching staff has decided it's not worth the hassle. We'll either be good enough to win with an OK punter or we're not. Being pinned at the 5 vs a touchback is a much bigger difference than 3-4 yards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: What are we talking about... 3-4 yards here and there MAYBE? He has had some good ones and has been part of the team. Maybe the coaching staff has decided it's not worth the hassle. We'll either be good enough to win with an OK punter or we're not. Maybe you better sit this round out. Hang time prevents returns which can lead to TD's. A shank can cost a team 40 yards. Being able to pin them inside the 10 is crucial in terms of field position. Having a good punter is a huge advantage. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Either they are confident that the offense will score every time or they are playing all four downs without punting. Edited September 7, 2019 by Mopreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Maybe you better sit this round out. Hang time prevents returns which can lead to TD's. A shank can cost a team 40 yards. Being able to pin them inside the 10 is crucial in terms of field position. Having a good punter is a huge advantage. Someone tell Beane and McDermott this. They had all the off season to find a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think Albany, NY is right and this is where the NFLPA rule hurts veteran players. A less experience player could sign on roster and bet on himself but a veteran cannot. I hope between week 1 and week 2 some veteran punters are brought in, and try both punting and holding kicks. I personally prefer athletic punters like Moorman was who can make plays other than by kicking whether it means the player is a good tackler, can throw the ball or can run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Maybe you better sit this round out. Hang time prevents returns which can lead to TD's. A shank can cost a team 40 yards. Being able to pin them inside the 10 is crucial in terms of field position. Having a good punter is a huge advantage. Ok. Fair enough. I'm in the minority. Just never really valued punters. Maybe it's a personal thing. Kick it and move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I mean if you look at a bunch of guys and none of them are a clear cut better option than what you have then you'd probably not risk cutting who you've got. I feel differently. Bojo has been so bad and inconsistent while wearing the uniform that giving another player a chance was the only move. If by rare chance the new guy ended up being worse, at least you tried. Now, when the inevitable shank costs the Bills, fans are going to as why didn’t they see this coming and try something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: Very simple answer: They are waiting a week so if they bring in a veteran they don't have to guarantee his salary. In the meantime, Bojorquez has one week to change their minds. I hope he never has to punt this week and no wisecracks that it will be because of turnovers. This right heah!! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 The main issue of course has been his inconsistency. You just hope he doesn’t shank one when we’re deep in our own territory in the 4th Qtr. Looking at the stats for last season, Bojo was tied for 16th in the NFL with a 45.1 yard average. He was tied for 21st in Net Average at 39.4 yards. This is a stat with many factors. For punts that are returned, a lot is on the coverage team. If one guy is caught out of his lane, it could result in a long return which messes up this average. Of course, punts with a good hang time may not be returned. Bojo had 22 of 45 punts returned, which isn’t very good. For comparison, the leaders in Net Avg were Morstead of the Saints and Hekker of the Rams and each had 43 punts, with only 12 each returned. in summary, Bojo is definitely not one of the better punters in the NFL, but he’s also not the worst. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bockeye said: Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Just couldn't get one. If BOJO (bang one, jerk one) cant get it together this year then getting a top punter needs to be a priority. We have 90 mil cap space maybe we have to buy one. Edited September 7, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, ColeB said: The main issue of course has been his inconsistency. You just hope he doesn’t shank one when we’re deep in our own territory in the 4th Qtr. Looking at the stats for last season, Bojo was tied for 16th in the NFL with a 45.1 yard average. He was tied for 21st in Net Average at 39.4 yards. This is a stat with many factors. For punts that are returned, a lot is on the coverage team. If one guy is caught out of his lane, it could result in a long return which messes up this average. Of course, punts with a good hang time may not be returned. Bojo had 22 of 45 punts returned, which isn’t very good. For comparison, the leaders in Net Avg were Morstead of the Saints and Hekker of the Rams and each had 43 punts, with only 12 each returned. in summary, Bojo is definitely not one of the better punters in the NFL, but he’s also not the worst. He was a below average punter last year prone to absolute howlers (dropping the ball before getting a chance to punt and botching a snap / fake - whatever it was supposed to be). This offseason his basic punting has been a lot worse too. The Bills tried to get Colquitt and he ended up going elsewhere. They have obviously looked at the rest of the market and not been convinced by the options. Bojo is going to hurt them in my view. He has a huge leg but no technique whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Bockeye said: Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Hey Cockeye, stay with your thread.? lest a newspaper wrapped gift from the fish market appear at your door. (Thanks Jimmy Spags!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Very simple answer: They are waiting a week so if they bring in a veteran they don't have to guarantee his salary. In the meantime, Bojorquez has one week to change their minds. I hope he never has to punt this week and no wisecracks that it will be because of turnovers. I don't get the obsession GMs seem to have with avoiding guaranteed salary. Say you avoid having to pay a punter $2M by doing this (a very high estimate). Even if you lose just one game due to your crappy punter, was the cost avoidance worth it? 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: What are we talking about... 3-4 yards here and there MAYBE? He has had some good ones and has been part of the team. Maybe the coaching staff has decided it's not worth the hassle. We'll either be good enough to win with an OK punter or we're not. His shanks have been 25 yard punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Look on the bright side, maybe we'll finally be the team that just goes for it on fourth down all the time and revolutionizes the game! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said: As the resident punting expert, I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of a vast league-wide punter conspiracy against the Buffalo Bills. There’s a career in politics waiting for you, kid. (No, I didn’t misspell that.) 14 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: Look on the bright side, maybe we'll finally be the team that just goes for it on fourth down all the time and revolutionizes the game! Making amends for previous ‘cowardly’ decisions from previous coaching regimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 If the guy truly sucks he would have been gone in Camp Seems pretty obvious, the coaching staff likes this guy MORE than the fans GO BILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Bockeye said: Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Because we're not punting...ever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Because we're not punting...ever. So keeping him on the roster is just a ruse as well? I like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Buffalo has scouts all over the country. If there was somebody better, he would be here. .. Edited September 7, 2019 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 This Bills Offense doesn't need no stinking punter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: So keeping him on the roster is just a ruse as well? I like it. Well someone has to hold for Hauschka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well someone has to hold for Hauschka. I recommend Bobby Chandler. Oh wait, he’s dead. OK, Frank Reich! Oh yeah, he’s already got a job. I got it! Daryle Lamonica! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Bockeye said: Seriously. I’m asking the veterans and experts on here. Is there some conspiracy theories out there or what? Does not make sense. Because we are never planning on Punting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Very simple answer: They are waiting a week so if they bring in a veteran they don't have to guarantee his salary. In the meantime, Bojorquez has one week to change their minds. I hope he never has to punt this week and no wisecracks that it will be because of turnovers. ^^^This. Sometimes the simplest answer is the best one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well someone has to hold for Hauschka. Hauschka might like him as a holder, but even that frightens me. Bojo just seems scatterbrained on the field imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Ryan Allen worked out friday for the Texans, strange he's still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 When Josh scores every time you won’t need a punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Did anybody think when Rex got canned that in just three short years, literally on the eve of opening day, the nattering nabobs of negativity’s biggest talking point would be the punter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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