oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Turn off WGR. There are a ton of good Bills podcasts out there. Locked on Bills and Buffalo Rumblings and Cover 1 all have made my commute much more enjoyable than the WGR whine show. I say this every time his name comes up. You want him gone, don’t just turn off the station. Contact the sponsors and tell them you aren’t going to frequent their businesses as long as he’s on the air. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 My stock answer to all the Schopp threads... Don't listen! I never do and miss it not! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: I say this every time his name comes up. You want him gone, don’t just turn off the station. Contact the sponsors and tell them you aren’t going to frequent their businesses as long as he’s on the air. ❄️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGA-Man Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: Glad that gives you a chuckle. Tribalism misses the point entirely, as well. You're the one missing the point of fandom tbh. Anyone reporting on the NFL is looking for clicks not the truth. Edited August 20, 2019 by MAGA-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, theRalph said: Schopp talks Bills in the same manner that one might discuss, say, constipation. There is no media personality, even on the national level, that goes to the extremes Schopp does in dismissing ANYTHING of a positive nature with the Bills and especially Josh Allen whom he despises. Schopp, that insufferable douch bag, used to have ex-QB now fine analyst Dan Orlovsky on the program regularly when Dan was down on Josh Allen. Now, Orlovsky is praising Allen and the douche bag is dismissing it with the notion that "nothing in preseason means anything" and no assessment is possible. With deepest apologies to all the haters, Debbie Downers, and the like, it must be said that Allen is meeting the eyeball test this meaningless preseason. It's OK to be optimistic, it really is. Mike Schopp, please bottle the Bills acid and STFU. And Bulldog, grow a pair and stand up to this idiot once in a while. I've mentioned this on the forum in the past and will do so once again. When Ralph died and Pegula hadn't yet materialized and it appeared that the Bills would most likely be moved after a sale was made, Schopp went on the air and said: "If I had the Billions of dollars to buy the team and keep them in Buffalo I wouldn't, because I just don't care enough about them or the NFL." IMHO, he should have been relieved of his duties that day as his statement was paramount to WNY treason. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: ❄️ I have never listened to him as I don’t live there. But you can count on a thread like this every couple months. If so many people want him gone tell the sponsors. Not listening won’t change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 55 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i like him!!!! And I love the morning show!.. Course, listen to about an hr combined daily..but STOP FREAKING LISTENING...how easy is that????? I did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, K-9 said: Like I said, it’s the level of criticism that precedes any level of analysis. Pro or con. I think this concept of “sides” misses the issue completely as it relates to competitive team sports. Normally I'd agree with this, but it certainly seemed like there were "sides" with Allen. I remember quite a bit of "deal with it, he's your QB now" rhetoric after the draft with the whole Josh v Josh debate. Edited August 20, 2019 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Wadhams said: I never understood why WGR employs him. I have encountered numerous people who stopped listening to their network just because of Schopp. To this day I haven't met anyone who is a fan of his. Because Schopp, like The Bulldog and Howard Simon, are legacy sports talk hosts in Buffalo. They're there because they're always there. (In a word, inertia.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, MAGA-Man said: You're the one misding the point of fandom tbh. Anyone reporting on the NFL is looking for clicks not the truth. Why does every difference of opinion have to be tribalist in nature? And I would argue that fandom is the LAST F-ing thing society should or needs to be tribal about. If you’ve boiled every aspect of discourse down to tribalism, then yeah, you’ve missed the point. Entirely. And while I don’t agree that anyone reporting on the NFL is incapable of truth, many of them do work for outlets that depend on ad clicks to drive revenues. But that’s on us to recognize the difference. Caveat emptor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, oldmanfan said: I have never listened to him as I don’t live there. But you can count on a thread like this every couple months. If so many people want him gone tell the sponsors. Not listening won’t change anything. So people want someone fired because they simply don’t agree with their opinion? I’d argue that not being able to listen to other people’s opinions is a huge issue in this country. I definitely agree with you that if someone or something really bothers me, I’d just ignore. But unless someone was a terrible human being, it seems pretty awful to want them to get fired because they don’t have an opinion you like. And as much as I love the Bills, sadly, the negative people have been many right. JMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 With all the podcasts out there now there is no need to listen to WGR. Plus they usually separate the good guest they have on their show on the on demand so if you just wanted to listen to a guest later pretty easily done. No reason to give them the ratings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, stony said: Normally I'd agree with this, but it certainly seemed like there were "sides" with Allen. I remember quite a bit of "deal with it, he's your QB now" rhetoric after the draft with the whole Josh v Josh debate. Yes, there are “sides.” I just find the concept of “sides” as missing the point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) guys been doing it a long so someone must like him. he does say he will given them credit when they do something that warrants it. I dont like or dislike im just a guys who like to listen talk bills football. for what its worth I dont see any reason why Allen wouldnt be a good qb at this point Edited August 20, 2019 by clearwater cadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Well preseason does not mean a whole lot. Peterman 1 Int in 120 passes in preseason. 12 Int in 130 passes in regular season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, bbb said: This is really the main problem Buffalo content? Where? If you’re really hardcore, check out cover1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romie Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Well he has to do something different we don't need another Murphy and Tasker. Murph. Autocorrect stinks. Edited August 20, 2019 by Romie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGA-Man Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, K-9 said: Why does every difference of opinion have to be tribalist in nature? And I would argue that fandom is the LAST F-ing thing society should or needs to be tribal about. If you’ve boiled every aspect of discourse down to tribalism, then yeah, you’ve missed the point. Entirely. And while I don’t agree that anyone reporting on the NFL is incapable of truth, many of them do work for outlets that depend on ad clicks to drive revenues. But that’s on us to recognize the difference. Caveat emptor. We live in an era of extreme stances with no middle ground and every single fan can have a voice and get the attention of even the players themselves via social media. As someone said before, we had this same infighting even in the 90's. I had an Aunt who absolutely despised Jim Kelly and was all too happy to point out that all the SB losses were because Jim Kelly sucked. We are just repeating history in a diffetent era with different tools at our disposal. Edited August 20, 2019 by MAGA-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: So people want someone fired because they simply don’t agree with their opinion? I’d argue that not being able to listen to other people’s opinions is a huge issue in this country. I definitely agree with you that if someone or something really bothers me, I’d just ignore. But unless someone was a terrible human being, it seems pretty awful to want them to get fired because they don’t have an opinion you like. And as much as I love the Bills, sadly, the negative people have been many right. JMO. I agree. I just wouldn’t listen. Just saying if it that’s distasteful then do something instead of complain. Or go to another station and start your own show? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I hate him so much. Cant stand it CANT WAIT TO TUNE IN TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS NEXT 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said: Schopp finds things he knows the Bills would not be on board with and harps on those topics to make himself look right. If the Bills continue to lose this shock jock method will continue to get ratings. If the Bills ever do start winning, it will be interesting to see what their show will become because the constsnt negativity will no longer work. I’ve seen them, just like Jerry Sullivan flip and become the biggest fans after just a few games. You’d think someone pulled their brains out and reprogrammed them to be the biggest homers ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, theRalph said: Schopp talks Bills in the same manner that one might discuss, say, constipation. There is no media personality, even on the national level, that goes to the extremes Schopp does in dismissing ANYTHING of a positive nature with the Bills and especially Josh Allen whom he despises. Schopp, that insufferable douch bag, used to have ex-QB now fine analyst Dan Orlovsky on the program regularly when Dan was down on Josh Allen. Now, Orlovsky is praising Allen and the douche bag is dismissing it with the notion that "nothing in preseason means anything" and no assessment is possible. With deepest apologies to all the haters, Debbie Downers, and the like, it must be said that Allen is meeting the eyeball test this meaningless preseason. It's OK to be optimistic, it really is. Mike Schopp, please bottle the Bills acid and STFU. And Bulldog, grow a pair and stand up to this idiot once in a while. This is Mike Schoop's producer, Thank you for talking about us and keeping us in the public eye. Without people like you commenting on our show, we'd probably be off the air. But you help keep us relevant!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I agree. I just wouldn’t listen. Just saying if it that’s distasteful then do something instead of complain. Or go to another station and start your own show? I will say even he doesn’t really bother me, I think Buffalo sports talk could be so much better. I’m mainly a podcast guy for sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Keep starting threads about Shoop. Guaranteed he, and his bosses, and advertisers love you for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, White Linen said: He didn't stop there. He firmly believes we picked the wrong QB and should have drafted Lamar Jackson. Some know what his motivations are and if you don't, do a little investigating. He loves Tyrod, RG3, and Kaepernick as well. Thinks they all got raw deals while, and I quote "Big Slow White Guys" keep getting second chances. What can you do except turn off the radio. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Him and the Generic Sports Talk Name got so bad I stopped listening to him more than a decade ago. I always felt it was a huge disservice to the people of WNY who are such rabid sports fans to have guys on the rush hour show talking about guitar lessons and most comfortable walking shoes (actual topics). I guess there was never any viable competition but either way apparently it worked because they are still on the air...It is not my cup of tea but they are still on the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Schoop loves Tyrod Taylor and thinks he wasn't treated fairly. It's that simple. ...and he wanted the Bills to draft Jackson instead of Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, MAGA-Man said: lol, welcome to tribal human nature. Most fans are not going to do any type of logical analysis. We don't do that in relationships, we don't do that in politics, and we definitely don't do that with sports. “Tribal” human nature?.....says MAGA MAN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Present day WGR talking heads credibility benefited from goof balls of the past like Art Wander and Chuck Dickerson. Who they held in high regard cutting their teeth in the local sports talk radio business. Edited August 21, 2019 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Daily listener on my drive home from work. I love it. I agree, Schop can be a real pain, but it's entertaining. I don't mind someone with a differing opinion. You just have to learn to take what he has to say with a grain of salt. That's not my issue with him. My issue with him is that he doesn't seem to really care for football or especially Bills football. He takes every opportunity to talk about something else. So he isn't a fan of football, isn't a fan of the Bills, doesn't really know much about the sport besides what casual fans already know, doesn't like talking to fans who call in, so why is he doing what he is doing? Maybe he should cover something that he is actually interested in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, bbb said: This is really the main problem Buffalo content? Where? Joe Marino has a podcast he does about 2-4 days per week, even during the dog days of summer. They’re only about a half hour each, but they’re pretty solid. I always look for it on “playerfm”, the “locked on bills” podcast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Turn off WGR. There are a ton of good Bills podcasts out there. Locked on Bills and Buffalo Rumblings and Cover 1 all have made my commute much more enjoyable than the WGR whine show. Good to know. I can't stand schoop and bulldog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just ignore the guy. He only has a job because people listen. He isn't qualified to offer real opinions on anything, so he plays heel and tries to get people to interact. Clicks and calls keep crappy people in jobs, if you don't like him - switch the station and ignore him like I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Joe is well worth the listen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 If you listen You are part of the problem 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: If you listen You are part of the problem Post of the year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Schopp has hated all things preseason football for as long as I can remember. After Peterman's fireworks last preseason and his subsequent flameout during the season opener against Baltimore, his opinion of preseason football has only gotten worse. Like others here have already commented. When Josh shows consistency and performs at a high level, people that doubt him will crawl back under their rocks, with a mouth full of crow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Never understood how he has any callers to his show. If you don’t agree precisely with his opinion he will berate you until he is blue in the face. Even when people agree with him he still sometimes bashes them. Almost like he literally cannot ever be happy. 8 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I can’t stomach Schoop and the Bulldog. The sound of Bulldog’s voice/stammer just annoys me. I also can’t stand Schopp. You pointed out some of the reasons why he suck. I loved last year how he praised Lamar Jackson’s running but was down on Josh Allen for running the football as a QB. I have my theories why... Schopp is unlistenable and I refused to tune in but to his credit, his show gets huge ratings for WGR As do I. It has been kicked around here before where his bias comes from and I think most people agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Haven't listened to him in years... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Bills2ref said: Never understood how he has any callers to his show. If you don’t agree precisely with his opinion he will berate you until he is blue in the face. Are you familiar with sports/talk radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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