eball Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 So in one day of "unofficial" negotiations the Bills accomplished the following: 1. Acquired a CB with 1st round pedigree who will hopefully push Levi and provide solid depth 2. Methuselah joins the team at RB; at first a "huh?" signing but at $2M is a drop in the bucket and provides veteran leadership (PFF rated him very highly last season if you follow that stuff) 3. Signed a TE who has shown flashes of production in the passing game (2017) but is at the very least a capable blocker 4. Potentially "fixed" the C position by acquiring a guy who hasn't given up a sack since 2015; backup already in place with previous Long signing This is a promising start. You can point out potential pitfalls with any of these moves, but there's nothing here that looks "scattershot" or not part of the larger plan. I believe Gore's signing likely means Ivory is gone, and they will draft a youngster who gets to learn behind Gore (consummate pro) and Shady while they form a RBBC. I don't think they're done at TE at all and expect them to draft one, but Kroft is a decent addition. What's next? A Daryl Williams signing and a veteran WR would complete my personal FA checklist and set the Bills up nicely for the draft. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Didn't think I would get an Old Testament reference in a FA recap, but I appreciated it! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I am at Disney world this week with my family. i appreciated you guys doing the heavy lifting and keeping me up to date as I can only scan my phone briefly. eball, in typical Bills fan fashion I please with day one, or pre-true free agency, but I’m taking a wait and see attitude. GO BILLS! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, eball said: So in one day of "unofficial" negotiations the Bills accomplished the following: 1. Acquired a CB with 1st round pedigree who will hopefully push Levi and provide solid depth 2. Methuselah joins the team at RB; at first a "huh?" signing but at $2M is a drop in the bucket and provides veteran leadership (PFF rated him very highly last season if you follow that stuff) 3. Signed a TE who has shown flashes of production in the passing game (2017) but is at the very least a capable blocker 4. Potentially "fixed" the C position by acquiring a guy who hasn't given up a sack since 2015; backup already in place with previous Long signing This is a promising start. You can point out potential pitfalls with any of these moves, but there's nothing here that looks "scattershot" or not part of the larger plan. I believe Gore's signing likely means Ivory is gone, and they will draft a youngster who gets to learn behind Gore (consummate pro) and Shady while they form a RBBC. I don't think they're done at TE at all and expect them to draft one, but Kroft is a decent addition. What's next? A Daryl Williams signing and a veteran WR would complete my personal FA checklist and set the Bills up nicely for the draft. Agree. Some good names still out there. Hopefully we can land Daryl Williams and if not maybe Saffold. Then a DE like Preston Smith/Ziggy Ansah. Maybe a WR like Conley/John Brown and onto the draft Edited March 12, 2019 by ChanticleerBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Not losing any significant talent is just as critical as adding new players in key positions of need. We are slowly headed in the right direction. At least I hope we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, eball said: So in one day of "unofficial" negotiations the Bills accomplished the following: 1. Acquired a CB with 1st round pedigree who will hopefully push Levi and provide solid depth 2. Methuselah joins the team at RB; at first a "huh?" signing but at $2M is a drop in the bucket and provides veteran leadership (PFF rated him very highly last season if you follow that stuff) 3. Signed a TE who has shown flashes of production in the passing game (2017) but is at the very least a capable blocker 4. Potentially "fixed" the C position by acquiring a guy who hasn't given up a sack since 2015; backup already in place with previous Long signing This is a promising start. You can point out potential pitfalls with any of these moves, but there's nothing here that looks "scattershot" or not part of the larger plan. I believe Gore's signing likely means Ivory is gone, and they will draft a youngster who gets to learn behind Gore (consummate pro) and Shady while they form a RBBC. I don't think they're done at TE at all and expect them to draft one, but Kroft is a decent addition. What's next? A Daryl Williams signing and a veteran WR would complete my personal FA checklist and set the Bills up nicely for the draft. Or are they going to announce today they have a trade in place for McCoy? Probably not, but you never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Thanks for the recap! I have the same personal checklist of Williams and a WR. I was leaning towards Humphries, but now I am not sure who I would target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, eball said: So in one day of "unofficial" negotiations the Bills accomplished the following: 1. Acquired a CB with 1st round pedigree who will hopefully push Levi and provide solid depth 2. Methuselah joins the team at RB; at first a "huh?" signing but at $2M is a drop in the bucket and provides veteran leadership (PFF rated him very highly last season if you follow that stuff) 3. Signed a TE who has shown flashes of production in the passing game (2017) but is at the very least a capable blocker 4. Potentially "fixed" the C position by acquiring a guy who hasn't given up a sack since 2015; backup already in place with previous Long signing This is a promising start. You can point out potential pitfalls with any of these moves, but there's nothing here that looks "scattershot" or not part of the larger plan. I believe Gore's signing likely means Ivory is gone, and they will draft a youngster who gets to learn behind Gore (consummate pro) and Shady while they form a RBBC. I don't think they're done at TE at all and expect them to draft one, but Kroft is a decent addition. What's next? A Daryl Williams signing and a veteran WR would complete my personal FA checklist and set the Bills up nicely for the draft. Good point about Ivory. Capwise, it nets to $0 if they release ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I am at Disney world this week with my family. i appreciated you guys doing the heavy lifting and keeping me up to date as I can only scan my phone briefly. eball, in typical Bills fan fashion I please with day one, or pre-true free agency, but I’m taking a wait and see attitude. GO BILLS! Try the epcot challenge, get a drink from all 11 countries and see if you're still standing at the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 TBD-TSW free agency summary, day 1: Beane’s an idiot! * Beane’s a genius! * Beane’s an idiot! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Hard to complain when you look at the big picture and realize there are 31 other teams competing for these players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: TBD-TSW free agency summary, day 1: Beane’s an idiot! * Beane’s a genius! * Beane’s an idiot! You are referencing a phenomenon that is commonly known as the "rabbit season paradigm". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: You are referencing a phenomenon that is commonly known as the "rabbit season paradigm". That’s even more remarkable when you consider it is often the same TBD member arguing both viewpoints...? Edited March 12, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: That’s even more remarkable when you consider it is often the same TBD member arguing both viewpoints...? In his defense, daffy always ends up saying duck season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Nothing flashy. They will still have a good amount of cap heading into next season. Morse was necessary. Kroft isn’t a plus signing but if he keeps the Bills from using a top pick on a TE it’s worth the overpay. I don’t like the Gore signing because it’s a strong indication that Shady is staying. You don’t need to groom a rookie RB, the beauty of drafting a RB is the early returns on a RWS contract. Then after four years you find a new one. The Bills have the oldest backfield, where does it rank in salary? I’d guess it’s top 10. I’d like one or two more starting oline guys and that would allow Beane to stay true to his board during the draft. Edited March 12, 2019 by CommonCents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think it was a productive first day. I liked all the signings. I expected kroft or another mid tier kinda tight end. Didn’t see the gore signing coming at all, I expected more speed but I think it was smart to get him in the locker room. Morse of course (see what I did there) is a homerun if he’s healthy here. I would agree they’ll target Williams and it’s probably going to be expensive at 12-15 per. I don’t expect to see anymore big name guys though. I expect some “fire Beane he wasted more free agent money” kind of signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I am at Disney world this week with my family. i appreciated you guys doing the heavy lifting and keeping me up to date as I can only scan my phone briefly. eball, in typical Bills fan fashion I please with day one, or pre-true free agency, but I’m taking a wait and see attitude. GO BILLS! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 If we can get one more starting o-lineman, and a WR or Defensive help (DT, DE, or LB), I think it's a home run for FA period. .... Keep in mind, we did already sign two potential starters before the open market: Long at guard--he was a decent started in Washington, I think he moves back over; and Williams as a possession, slot receiver type--of course he is a question mark, but the potential is there. So far, it has been a very good off-season, with a chance to be better still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Day 1 ended up being fairly good. We landed a stud center, a TE that was beginning to grow and then he was derailed by a foot injury last season. We also grabbed a former first rounder in Kevin Johnson at corner- question mark with a concussion history but will battle Levi Wallace for the spot opposite Tre White. What would you like to see in day 2 and 3 of FA? Personally, I would love to see the Bills make a hard pitch for WR Tyrell Williams but word on the street the Colts are going after him. If we can’t grab Williams I would welcome Beasley from the Cowboys. OT Darryl Williams is another that would be a great addition to our line. Lets not forget we grabbed Spencer Long also. Hopefully he excels at the Guard spot because Center did not work out for him. If these final pieces can fall into place then we can go BPA in the first 3 rounds. Rounds 4-5 I would hope the Bills grab a RB- look for Ivory and Murphy to be gone if that happens. - On a sidenote- 2 weekends ago I had a heart attack (STEMI)- no sympathy please. Just a reminder that life is short and to make the most of every day, diet right, and keep moving. Go Bills!!! Edited March 12, 2019 by billsfan_34 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, TPS said: Good point about Ivory. Capwise, it nets to $0 if they release ivory. I just read elsewhere that cutting Ivory frees up $2m in cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Sorry to hear that 34. Hope you are on the mend and try not to get too overexcited by free agency or watching the draft!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, eball said: So in one day of "unofficial" negotiations the Bills accomplished the following: 1. Acquired a CB with 1st round pedigree who will hopefully push Levi and provide solid depth 2. Methuselah joins the team at RB; at first a "huh?" signing but at $2M is a drop in the bucket and provides veteran leadership (PFF rated him very highly last season if you follow that stuff) 3. Signed a TE who has shown flashes of production in the passing game (2017) but is at the very least a capable blocker 4. Potentially "fixed" the C position by acquiring a guy who hasn't given up a sack since 2015; backup already in place with previous Long signing This is a promising start. You can point out potential pitfalls with any of these moves, but there's nothing here that looks "scattershot" or not part of the larger plan. I believe Gore's signing likely means Ivory is gone, and they will draft a youngster who gets to learn behind Gore (consummate pro) and Shady while they form a RBBC. I don't think they're done at TE at all and expect them to draft one, but Kroft is a decent addition. What's next? A Daryl Williams signing and a veteran WR would complete my personal FA checklist and set the Bills up nicely for the draft. and to think there will be more fa signings and the draft yet to come. solid start, for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) I'd like to see us sign the two Williams' that are out there at positions of need. Daryl Williams at RT and Tyrell Williams at WR. Also intrigued by the Bell report, even though I'd be shocked if we signed him. Edited March 12, 2019 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Another OLineman today would be nice (Spain, Williams, Saffold etc). I am leery about rushing in on these receivers. Big no to Williams and other than Tate there is nobody I'd rush out to try and bring in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: TBD-TSW free agency summary, day 1: Beane’s an idiot! * Beane’s a genius! * Beane’s an idiot! Add to this: THE JETS ARE GODLIKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: Didn't think I would get an Old Testament reference in a FA recap, but I appreciated it! is that what that is?..lol...never been to church so I wouldn't know thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Sorry to hear that 34. Hope you are on the mend and try not to get too overexcited by free agency or watching the draft!! Great advise!!! Thanks I am definitely doing that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I'd love to see the Bills sign Henry Anderson or Sheldon Richardson. I think they're both still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Good recap. I am strongly encouraged after day 1 and want something like this today to really cement this FA class: 1 of each WR: Tate or Williams or Brown or Cobb OL: Daryl Williams or Safford (pipe dream I know) DE: Ansah or Brent Urban I think if the Bills somehow could get Williams or Tate I could see them trying for one of the Iowa TE's if they were to fall late in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuklz2594 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 is kroft an upgrade over o'leary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said: is kroft an upgrade over o'leary? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Excellent first day in my mind. Center was the number 1 priority for this team in FA and they got their man. This will make a huge difference on offense. Kroft is certainly not a game breaker, but the Bills were horrific at blocking at TE and he is a major upgrade there. Still room for a draft choice at that position, but Kroft makes them better. The Bills were very thin at CB so adding Johnson makes sense and is a good gamble. Very solid when healthy. Gore is an upgrade over Ivory. Williams at RT and/or a quality guard like Saffold would be my next priority. I am not enamoured of any of the remaining FA wide receivers in terms of being worth a big contract. Upgrade via draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, chris heff said: I just read elsewhere that cutting Ivory frees up $2m in cap space. That's why I said signing Gore and cutting Ivory is a wash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Haven’t heard the name Rodger Saffold at all over the last 48 hours in terms of visits or anything. While the Bills are desperate for a Tackle I would still like to see Saffold come in to lock up a G spot and have Long, and Teller compete for the other starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Very happy the Bills got Morse, young enough to anchor the line in front of Allen for years to come. The signings of Johnson, Gore, and Kroft are good. Kroft wasn't the TE I would have wanted, but he is an upgrade in terms of blocking with potential to be a decent pass-catching TE. Still leaves room for them to draft a TE. I would like to see Buffalo get Daryl Williams today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Jeetz1231 said: Didn't think I would get an Old Testament reference in a FA recap, but I appreciated it! Nice to see the BILLS getting OLDER at the RB position. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Socal-805 said: Nice to see the BILLS getting OLDER at the RB position. Yikes. Experience in the back field and have a young RB learn and compete to take over eventually. I think there is much more to play out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, nuklz2594 said: is kroft an upgrade over o'leary? I believe he has SOME ability to block. That would be an upgrade over o'leary. Kroft wears gloves though - so minus 1 million points. 47 minutes ago, tbarg12 said: Very happy the Bills got Morse, young enough to anchor the line in front of Allen for years to come. The signings of Johnson, Gore, and Kroft are good. Kroft wasn't the TE I would have wanted, but he is an upgrade in terms of blocking with potential to be a decent pass-catching TE. Still leaves room for them to draft a TE. I would like to see Buffalo get Daryl Williams today. Kroft is like - an adequate tight end when he wasn't injured. Not just a pass catcher who lines up inside. I don't think he'll ever get a ton of targets or anything, but he's made some plays in the red zone and can block. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, nuklz2594 said: is kroft an upgrade over o'leary? Skills: slightly Famous relatives: no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Not greedy but keep going. Get me a Jared Cook, Daryl Williams, K.J Wright, Roger Saffold Then head to the draft Edited March 12, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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