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If The Bills Stay @ #9, Who Is Your Guy?


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It depends so much on who is available, and who the Bills take in free agency.

The most strategically intelligent choice based on the importance of the battle in the trenches to the success of football teams would be either an offensive or defensive lineman.

I want the Bills to pick whichever offensive or defensive lineman they have rated the highest.

Ed Oliver, Brian Burns, or Montez Sweat on defense.

Jonah Williams or Jawaan Taylor on offense.

It may not be sexy, but games are won and lost in the trenches. Get me a big ugly and I'll be happy.

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14 hours ago, gjv001 said:

You win at the Line of Scrimmage. Build both lines.

 

yet the Hawks have been going to playoffs every year and won 1 SB with a crappy Oline.

8 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

I don't want ANY Tightend that early! You don't spend a top 10 pick on a TE. History tells us that.

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DK at 9

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Obviously, it’s impossible to say without knowing who goes 1-8, but as of today I’m hoping for Oliver. Get a couple OL in FA, draft another one or two, and get some skill guys who can scare a defense. 

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13 hours ago, the skycap said:

This draft is deep with capable linemen they can get later in the draft. They can also acquire linemen in FA. Get Josh some offensive talent 

 

They should get them there too.  We need several.

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4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’d lean DL but based on their efforts for AB It looks like they’d lean Metcalf. They CLEARLY have an interest in finding a number 1. He is boom or bust.

 

He scares me. I pray I’m wrong.  I think DL is the smart pick, but I’ll trust the pros. What else can we do? 

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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

He scares me. I pray I’m wrong.  I think DL is the smart pick, but I’ll trust the pros. What else can we do? 

He is definitely scary. Beane took two guys last year in the first with massive ceilings and low floors. I’m not saying it will happen but obviously he believes number 1 WR is a need. He was willing to add AB.

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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

He is definitely scary. Beane took two guys last year in the first with massive ceilings and low floors. I’m not saying it will happen but obviously he believes number 1 WR is a need. He was willing to add AB.

 

I fits the pattern, I agree. Time will tell! 

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I think a couple teams will go for a QB and we'll go BPA and get Kyle's succesor Ed Oliver. If they go WR, my bet is Metcalf. If they go OT, maybe Taylor or Williams. I suspect they will sign an OT and C in FA and get Oliver, then draft a WR (Campbell?) in the 2nd. I think we'll have trouble getting FA WR's to come to Buffalo until Allen can start placing the ball more accurately so they aren't always having to adjust so much to catch it. I also suspect that K Benjaman and C Clay were discouraged by this as well and just wanted out.

 

Bottom line, we have to run the ball way better in 2019 because we aren't going to win many games with Allen throwing 30 or more passes. We must become a run first offense and be able to move the chains.Allen can give us a few spectacular plays with his legs and strong arm, but you can't put your offense on him like you can with Brady or Mahomes.

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Jonah Williams is the best pass protector that I have ever seen. This guy is so fundamentally sound it's not even funny. He can play every position on the O-Line. He is only 21 years old and is already better then average at run blocking. I truely believe that he will be the best O-Lineman in the NFL in his 2nd or 3rd year. It will be really hard to pass on drafting D. White if he's there but I think Jonah Williams is that good.

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I think there are some elite defenders in this draft so I would lean that way in the first. Of the guys who I think would be available at 9 I like Burns the best. Then spend most of the rest of picks building an OL and WR corps. Throw in a DT, RB CB and S and possibly even a punter. I would like first few rds to go something like below. 

1/  Burns - Edge 

2/ Risner - Cajuste- Lindstrom- Dillard - D Edwards whichever is left OL

3/4  Isabella - Campbell- Mclaurin-Hurd- Arcega 

use  on some combination of these WRs

 

After that take BPA focusing on OL, DT,S,RB,CB

 

 

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Depends how FA goes and who is available.  If 1 of the stud d lineman are available that's a given.  I think Hockinson and Metcalf are in the discussion as well.  Personally, I want Buffalo bring in a deep threat this offseason so I am going Metcalf.  

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Let's see:

 

1. Arizona Cardinals- LB Josh Allen- Kentucky

2. San Francisco 49ers- DE Nick Bosa- Ohio State

3. New York Jets- DL Quinnen Williams- Alabama

4. Oakland Raiders- ILB Devin White- LSU

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- CB Greedy Williams- LSU

6. New York Giants- QB Dwayne Haskins- Ohio State

7. Jacksonville Jaguars- DL Ed Oliver- Houston

8. Detroit Lions- Edge Rashaan Gary- Michigan

9. Buffalo Bills- Edge Montez Sweat- Miss. State

 

I don't believe the Cards will trade Rosen or go after the tiny QB, just my opinion. I think if Montez Sweat makes it to us he's going to be the pick, some will say Jawaan Taylor should be the pick, I was thinking of him here and he could be in play if we don't sign Darryl Williams in FA because Taylor played almost all of his college career at RT and I don't have Jonah Williams listed here because I don't think he's a top 10 player and again that's just my opinion. Montez Sweat really caught my eye at the combine, I never knew he was that athletic but then you see how he plays and he's definitely eye popping watching him in games, he's like a cheetah out there stalking and then pouncing on his prey, he'd be a heck of an addition to that DL imo. I'm assuming Buffalo adds at least one but more possibly 2 offensive lineman in FA.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Mat68 said:

Depends how FA goes and who is available.  If 1 of the stud d lineman are available that's a given.  I think Hockinson and Metcalf are in the discussion as well.  Personally, I want Buffalo bring in a deep threat this offseason so I am going Metcalf.  

I think given the fact that they were pursuing AB & was about to give him a huge contract. Tells us alot! WR is a huge need for them. I think they want leadership on that O-Line... so Matt Paradis & Darryl Williams from the Panthers might be our biggest signings come Tuesday.

 

If they're able to get Paradis & Williams... they'll probably go after Adam Humphreys, Crabtree or John Brown on small 3 year deals...not all 3... I think they'll pick one. But they're definitely not drafting a O-linemen at 9 if they have Williams & Paradis. 

 

It's looking more & more that DK will be the pick at 9.  He's the only....& I mean THE ONLY WR in this draft with Superstar potential.  Those other WR's are safe & pretty good. They want Allen to have a stud... like I said AB told us a lot. 

 

Its DK... & Adam Humphreys or Crabtree or John Brown is someone that can make plays & teach DK, Zay, & Foster...how to play this game.

 

It just makes too much sense at this point 

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Depends on free agency right now. If they getDaryl Williams to play RT, and someone at WR like Adam Humphries, then it's TJ Hockenson to solidify TE as I can't justify interior OL at #9. There's no Quenton Nelson in this class.

 

If they can get Paradis or Mitch Morse but aren't able to land anyone for RT, then Jawaan Taylor is my guy.

 

I think DL is an option for them even though offense should be the #1 focus, and I have no interest whatsoever in DK Metcalf when there are other guys with deep speed that can be picked in later rounds. His agility or lack thereof is not something you can excuse at #9 regardless of his size and freak potential. They went with a low floor ultra high ceiling prospect at QB, far too risky to do it at WR also 

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Jonah Williams if he's still available.  Solid three year starter at Alabama.  Can play left or right tackle opposite Dawkins.  If we sign a tackle in free agency then moving Dawkins to guard isn't out of the question.

 

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8 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

yet the Hawks have been going to playoffs every year and won 1 SB with a crappy Oline.

 

DK at 9

I think your joking. If not, this is a feeble cherry pick at best. 

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6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Jonah Williams if he's still available.  Solid three year starter at Alabama.  Can play left or right tackle opposite Dawkins.  If we sign a tackle in free agency then moving Dawkins to guard isn't out of the question.

 

I can't see a scenario where Dawkins ends up at guard this season unless they are able to sign someone for RT AND center in free agency AND draft Jonah Williams or someone capable of playing LT at #9. Any other scenario and I think Dawkins stays at LT.

 

If they sign two and draft one they could go like:

Jonah Williams

Dion Dawkins

Matt Paradis or Mitch Morse

Spencer Long or Wyatt Teller

Daryl Williams

 

If they don't have that LT capable rookie or get Jawaan Taylor instead I would guess it would be:

Dawkins

Long or Teller

FA or Long

Long or Teller

Jawaan Taylor

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As of right now this is how I think/hope the top 8 plays out so we can see Devin White on the clock when we pick:

 

1. Arizona Cardinals - Kyler Murray / QB / OU

2. San Francisco 49ers- Nick Bosa / DE / Ohio State

3. New York Jets- Quinnen Williams / DT / Alabama

4. Oakland Raiders- Josh Allen / Edge / UK

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Montez Sweat / DE / Miss. St. 

6. New York Giants- Dwayne Haskins / QB / Ohio State

7. Jacksonville Jaguars- Ed Oliver / DT / Houston

8. Detroit Lions- Rashaan Gary / DT-DE / Michigan

9. Buffalo Bills - Devin White / LB / LSU

 

The biggest threats to seeing this happen would be Oakland (as noted by Gunner), Tampa with Bowles now running the defense, and Detroit where I could see Patricia taking him just before us. I think Oakland is going pass rusher as Gruden talks about how it is a huge need, though the idiot traded away one of the top 2 in the league just last year. I think Tampa is pretty solid at LB and is still looking to fix their woes in getting to the QB. With Sweat testing the way he did at the combine I think the versatility he provides may be enticing enough to make them pull the trigger at #5. Detroit is likely to lose Ansah in FA. I hope that Gary's athleticism is enough to make them select him. He's an exceptional athlete, but he clearly didn't live up to that at Michigan. Was he misused? Possibly and I hope that's what Detroit believes enough to make him #8. 

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If Ed Oliver is there at 9 he would be the BPA and while many might think a 3 technique DL is not a need, I believe a penetrating DL would create a lot of problems for offenses by bringing pressure up the middle, making Hughes/ Murphy more effective by preventing QBs from being able to step up in the pocket.

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4 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

I think given the fact that they were pursuing AB & was about to give him a huge contract. Tells us alot! WR is a huge need for them. I think they want leadership on that O-Line... so Matt Paradis & Darryl Williams from the Panthers might be our biggest signings come Tuesday.

 

If they're able to get Paradis & Williams... they'll probably go after Adam Humphreys, Crabtree or John Brown on small 3 year deals...not all 3... I think they'll pick one. But they're definitely not drafting a O-linemen at 9 if they have Williams & Paradis. 

 

It's looking more & more that DK will be the pick at 9.  He's the only....& I mean THE ONLY WR in this draft with Superstar potential.  Those other WR's are safe & pretty good. They want Allen to have a stud... like I said AB told us a lot. 

 

Its DK... & Adam Humphreys or Crabtree or John Brown is someone that can make plays & teach DK, Zay, & Foster...how to play this game.

 

It just makes too much sense at this point 

I would be thrilled with Metcalf, Humprhries, and possibly Crabtree.

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3 hours ago, richardb1952 said:

If Ed Oliver is there at 9 he would be the BPA and while many might think a 3 technique DL is not a need, I believe a penetrating DL would create a lot of problems for offenses by bringing pressure up the middle, making Hughes/ Murphy more effective by preventing QBs from being able to step up in the pocket.

Finally somebody gets it!

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On 3/8/2019 at 10:33 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

I do think Gary is gonna last as well. I wasn't sure he would pre-Kyler Murray because I thought all of the top 3 would want edge guys and Gary might end up a Jet at #3. Now I think the top 5 is Murray and then Bosa, Allen, Williams and White (the last two possible flipped). Then Haskins is still the favourite to go at #6 - depends what the Jags want to do at #7 - Gary could be in play there as could Ferrell, Oliver and Wilkins.

Does the gap between talent and production with Gary worry you?

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I think the top dlineman is the way to go. Hopefully a couple of the offensive players go early and we have a choice of Oliver, Ferrel, Wilkins, Burns, Sweat, Gary. 

 

Going forward I think I like Wilkins the most from a safe pick perspective. Gary and Oliver probably have the highest ceilings. I'd trust in McBeane to make the choice. Possibly even move back in the draft and get one of these guys. 

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Though I don't have a man crush on any particular player, I will be OK with any one of the following players:

 

Jawaan Taylor

Ed Oliver (OK at this point -combine answered a few questions I have - I want to see his pro day results)

DK Metcalf

Quinnen Williams (I don't expect he'll drop that far)

Rashan Gary (I have some concerns that he's something of a tweener - but I think a creative coach can use him)

Josh Allen (won't be available)

Nick Bosa (won't be available)

Montez Sweat

Brian Burns

Andre Dillard

 

The last three are kind of on the fringe for me.  I think they may be a bit of a reach, but have nice upside, so I'd hope for the best. 

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7 hours ago, JM57 said:

I can't see a scenario where Dawkins ends up at guard this season unless they are able to sign someone for RT AND center in free agency AND draft Jonah Williams or someone capable of playing LT at #9. Any other scenario and I think Dawkins stays at LT.

 

If they sign two and draft one they could go like:

Jonah Williams

Dion Dawkins

Matt Paradis or Mitch Morse

Spencer Long or Wyatt Teller

Daryl Williams

 

If they don't have that LT capable rookie or get Jawaan Taylor instead I would guess it would be:

Dawkins

Long or Teller

FA or Long

Long or Teller

Jawaan Taylor

I agree with this and I'm really hoping for the first scenario.  I really want to see Dawkins play at guard to help fortify our biggest weakness on the line last year.

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