Talley56 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Yeah, if they had slipped into the playoffs they’d be one and done. I think the Ravens stand a better chance at making things interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: We all know he’s going to end up with the Jets or Patriots. Good. Because the minute things go wrong (read: whenever he feels he’s not enough of the focal point of the offense) he will pull the same crap. That won’t be good for Darnold and whatever young QB the Pats*** eventually get to replace Brady. Great player, lousy teammate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: This is why I said a while ago that I think Antonio Brown could possibly be available via trade this year. Beane call them and get this done! It would take a number #1 pick and additional high picks this year and next to get a deal done for this high cost and volatile player. No thank you. I'm not dismissing his talent because he is one of the best receivers in the game. It's well known that McDermott preaches team first. Antonio is not singing from the same choir book. The best approach is to keep building the roster with your own draft picks and judicious selection of players from the free agent market who are not caught up in their own diva act. On the other hand I would be very interested in taking his cousin, Hollywood Brown, a speed receiver from Oklahoma with a second round pick if he was still on the board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He’s probably the best receiver in the league.. Pittsburgh ain’t letting him leave. Read above the cap ramifications they’d be handicapped big time for the next couple years. Ben won’t be there as long as brown is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Tomlin seems to have a hard time keeping his players in check. Something is really not right in that organization at all. It's sad really, they aren't a terrible team but accountability and discipline are sorely missing. Tomlin runs a loose ship. Which is okay when you have some legitimate leaders in your lockerroom to carry the load. Let the players self enforce themselves. Troy Polamalu. When you got Big Ben running the ship unchecked you're going to have problems. Not a leader of men, and that's when Tomlin's gotta tighten it up. I hate the Steelers anyway, so screw em. They'll be fine regardless they draft the best of any team out there. This isn't the first time they've imploded, they're a really talented group of players that shoot themselves in the foot every now and then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Get er done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Wow. Something needs to happen in Pittsburgh. This is a mess. First Bell, now Brown. Makes me wonder about the culture in their locker room. Bunch of Prima Donna's in the steel city. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Sounds like Tomlin needs to import some process—things getting too comfortable for him? Losing control of the locker room might be a part of that result? The Rooneys do a lot right, but arguably leave the HC in place just a little bit too long, to a fault. Edited December 31, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Drama queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: It would take a number #1 pick and additional high picks this year and next to get a deal done for this high cost and volatile player. No thank you. I'm not dismissing his talent because he is one of the best receivers in the game. It's well known that McDermott preaches team first. Antonio is not singing from the same choir book. The best approach is to keep building the roster with your own draft picks and judicious selection of players from the free agent market who are not caught up in their own diva act. On the other hand I would be very interested in taking his cousin, Hollywood Brown, a speed receiver from Oklahoma with a second round pick if he was still on the board. Agree he’s not worth that, but he won’t fetch that much IMO. I think at most he will go for a just a first. And I think he could be had for a 2nd and like a 4th or 5th. Hes 30, and now has a teammate image problem. He’s not gonna fetch a bounty IMO. I would be willing to trade our first for him. He has at least 3 or 4 years of Elite play left and those are prime development years for Josh. And yeah, Brown wouldn’t be a bad pick in the draft. Didn’t know they were cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I like beef in my locker room. Is uh.. "Pig Ben" a typo? because if not.. I like it. AB banged Poyers wife while they were engaged. You don’t want that beef... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Just now, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: AB banged Poyers wife while they were engaged. You don’t want that beef... that ain't good beef. No sir. Guess I'm team Poyer on this one boys. Edited December 31, 2018 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Tomlin seems to have a hard time keeping his players in check. Something is really not right in that organization at all. It's sad really, they aren't a terrible team but accountability and discipline are sorely missing. The truth is no one grown person can "make" another grown person do a damn thing. One hopes an ability to analyze circumstances, goals and sel-reflection will lead to a person doing the right things, or accepting a course of action that won't cause disruption. But Tomlin can't make players at AB's level do anything because money is involved; he can't just cut him. And lo-Key, Roethlisberger is an issue in Pittsburgh and has been. He's a blame shifter. Bad for business when adversity hits. People don't forget being thrown under bus, especially if, as in Ben's case, he's played poorly in stretches and big moments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Hoping karma finally begins to catch up to Roethlisberger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Agree he’s not worth that, but he won’t fetch that much IMO. I think at most he will go for a just a first. And I think he could be had for a 2nd and like a 4th or 5th. Hes 30, and now has a teammate image problem. He’s not gonna fetch a bounty IMO. I would be willing to trade our first for him. He has at least 3 or 4 years of Elite play left and those are prime development years for Josh. And yeah, Brown wouldn’t be a bad pick in the draft. Didn’t know they were cousins. The problem the Steelers face (as was outlined up thread) is that they've given Brown a contract where they really have to get something good to make up for the $21M of dead money they would instantaneously acrue in a trade. 23 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: AB banged Poyers wife while they were engaged. You don’t want that beef... Yeahhhhhhhh I can't say you're wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: AB banged Poyers wife while they were engaged. You don’t want that beef... Add AB to the list of NFL players who have stiff armed Poyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, purple haze said: The truth is no one grown person can "make" another grown person do a damn thing. One hopes an ability to analyze circumstances, goals and sel-reflection will lead to a person doing the right things, or accepting a course of action that won't cause disruption. But Tomlin can't make players at AB's level do anything because money is involved; he can't just cut him. And lo-Key, Roethlisberger is an issue in Pittsburgh and has been. He's a blame shifter. Bad for business when adversity hits. People don't forget being thrown under bus, especially if, as in Ben's case, he's played poorly in stretches and big moments. Sooo, here's a notion. Roethlisberger publically threw Pittsburgh's new WR James Washington under the bus earlier this season for failing to jump and come down with a touchdown. Washington has struggled a bit, getting just 38 targets from Ben and hauling in only 16 of them. Maybe we could take that struggling guy Ben don't like out of their locker room. I coveted that Washington in the draft. I was watching film of Mason Rudolph and I kept being drawn to watch Washington. He made Rudolph look good IMO. Get'erdone, Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Pig Ben. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sooo, here's a notion. Roethlisberger publically threw Pittsburgh's new WR James Washington under the bus earlier this season for failing to jump and come down with a touchdown. Washington has struggled a bit, getting just 38 targets from Ben and hauling in only 16 of them. Maybe we could take that struggling guy Ben don't like out of their locker room. I coveted that Washington in the draft. I was watching film of Mason Rudolph and I kept being drawn to watch Washington. He made Rudolph look good IMO. Get'erdone, Beane. I approve this message. I loved Washington in last year's draft for the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: First Bell, now Brown... what is going on in Pittsburgh? I don't know, but they better not fire Tomlin because we're running out of black coaches and people are starting to notice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Brown is a headcase. From his offseason twitter rants, to his locker room tirades, and on field incidents I don't know what to say about him. He's a top 3 WR, but will you get All Pro Antonio or bipolar Antonio is the question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Brown sees the ball plenty there. Maybe it’s his haircut. Driving him insane now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sooo, here's a notion. Roethlisberger publically threw Pittsburgh's new WR James Washington under the bus earlier this season for failing to jump and come down with a touchdown. Washington has struggled a bit, getting just 38 targets from Ben and hauling in only 16 of them. Maybe we could take that struggling guy Ben don't like out of their locker room. I coveted that Washington in the draft. I was watching film of Mason Rudolph and I kept being drawn to watch Washington. He made Rudolph look good IMO. Get'erdone, Beane. Here is an interesting tweet I saw on Twitter that ties into this: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If that happened to the Bills some posters would act as if "it's so Billsy", as if it happened only here. So many incidents like that point to the leadership. So Big Ben and mostly, the coach. He seems to have lost control over there. Just a weeks ago, Ben criticized Brown and other teammates. As many commentators said, you don't do that publicly, and the very rare times you do, you ALSO point to yourself first. Anyway, if this story is true, whatever the QB-players-coaches-media say, if you are a star receiver and just decide to pout and sit out the final game when the playoff hopes hang in the balance, there is zero excuse for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Where is Todd Haley now? Bryant is on the suspended list I believe, is that ben’s fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: If that happened to the Bills some posters would act as if "it's so Billsy", as if it happened only here. So many incidents like that point to the leadership. So Big Ben and mostly, the coach. He seems to have lost control over there. Just a weeks ago, Ben criticized Brown and other teammates. As many commentators said, you don't do that publicly, and the very rare times you do, you ALSO point to yourself first. Anyway, if this story is true, whatever the QB-players-coaches-media say, if you are a star receiver and just decide to pout and sit out the final game when the playoff hopes hang in the balance, there is zero excuse for that! Actually from what I've read....Antonio Brown appeared to feel that he could skip walkthroughs, practices, and meetings, and STILL PLAY because the playoff hopes hung in the balance. " According to several sources, Brown showed up at Heinz Field expecting to play against the Bengals. That surprised several players, including one who called the situation “embarrassing” and “the worst I’ve seen.” " To me, that's a leadership failure. Apparently this isn't the first time AB has skipped "mandatory" meetings, and previously without consequences: "A week earlier, while his teammates were attending a daily mandatory morning meeting, Brown was in the building but skipped the meeting. He still played in the 28-24 loss in New Orleans." It kind of sounds as though the inmates are running the asylum so to speak, down in Pittsburgh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Actually from what I've read....Antonio Brown appeared to feel that he could skip walkthroughs, practices, and meetings, and STILL PLAY because the playoff hopes hung in the balance. " According to several sources, Brown showed up at Heinz Field expecting to play against the Bengals. That surprised several players, including one who called the situation “embarrassing” and “the worst I’ve seen.” " To me, that's a leadership failure. Apparently this isn't the first time AB has skipped "mandatory" meetings, and previously without consequences: "A week earlier, while his teammates were attending a daily mandatory morning meeting, Brown was in the building but skipped the meeting. He still played in the 28-24 loss in New Orleans." It kind of sounds as though the inmates are running the asylum so to speak, down in Pittsburgh If true, it really IS a leadership issue! And while a diva, AB is still known as a perfectionist and a hard worker, so he must not respect the coaches very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Helpmenow said: Where is Todd Haley now? Bryant is on the suspended list I believe, is that ben’s fault No, Bryant being suspended is not Ben's fault. But, there are guys who show leadership and build relationships and bridges. And there are guys who break and burn them. Roethlisberger was said to have been a guy who initially struggled to be a good teammate, and who accepted learnings over time that helped him lead the team in a period of consistent success. Last year despite a great W-L record, they fell short (and Roethlisberger was part of that with his two turnovers). Now he's looking like he's lost the "clue" that to win, you have to lead and to lead, you have to build connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) If they truly are about to split as rumored I definitely would give up multiple 2nds for him. Edited January 1, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Jealous JuJu is the man in Pittsburgh now. No doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 IIRC Emanuel Sanders dissed Ben on the way out and Santonio Holmes may have as well. I’m giving AB the benefit of the doubt. He would be an ideal receiver for Josh Allen btw. I’ve never seen anything from AB on the field that would make me question his character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: First Bell, now Brown... what is going on in Pittsburgh? Poor team culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, freddyjj said: Bell and Blunt caught with weed on way to airport. That, sir, is an AWESOME Freudian slip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: AB banged Poyers wife while they were engaged. You don’t want that beef... Yikes I can’t wait for Season 2 of “Offseason Drama with The Poyers” Edited January 1, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2nd and 4th get er done Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Sounds like they kind of guy the Bills would want. https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/ron-cook/2018/12/31/Ron-Cook-hurtful-antics-Steelers-receiver-Antonio-Brown-Mike-Tomlin-Art-Rooney-II-Chiefs/stories/201901010648 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, H2o said: Brown is a headcase. From his offseason twitter rants, to his locker room tirades, and on field incidents I don't know what to say about him. He's a top 3 WR, but will you get All Pro Antonio or bipolar Antonio is the question. I also saw somewhere where he was tossing stuff off of his balcony in some fit of rage last year and it almost landed on a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: ooohhh - so none of this ever really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wow. WTF is in the water there in that locker room? Le'veon Bell now AB. Talk about a team imploding. In the end, they did what they could (they won) and they didn't get the help they needed from Tenn or Baltimore, but Crikey. Both are very talented guys, without a doubt but both are also making themselves Poison Pills. Let's not forget about Ben Roethlisberger spouting off to the media every time he's unhappy. Their best three players are the worst (publicly) behaved and spoken; that's a lack of leadership, if I ever saw one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I also saw somewhere where he was tossing stuff off of his balcony in some fit of rage last year and it almost landed on a kid. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/antonio-brown-steelers-wide-receiver-accused-nearly-hitting-toddler-furniture-thrown-from-balcony-2018-10-09/ AB said someone else threw the furniture. I can't find a better article on the status of the lawsuit. Settled out of court perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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