Another Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I know he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do but I thought that was pretty cool he tried to tackle Jones and swipe the ball. He didn’t give up on the play and pout his head. Even before the second half started little things like that make me more and more confident in him. Edited December 31, 2018 by Another Fan 21 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 As long as he LEARNS from ( rookie) mistakes that he makes I’m ok with it , 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Another Fan said: I know he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do but I thought that was pretty cool he tried to tackle Jones and swipe the ball. He didn’t give up on the play and pout his head. Even before the second half started little things like that make me more and more confident in him. I loved that he pursued the guy, and loved it even more that he tried to strip the ball out of his hands, which by the time he caught up with him would have been the only way of preventing a score. Can't say I've ever seen a QB do that before. Shame it didn't work ... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Thanks for pointing this out OP. What a difference between his today versus those we’ve seen thrown by our other starters throughout the course of this year—previously it always felt like the proverbial nail in the coffin, but today it hardly registered in the overall flow of the game. More specifically, I knew we still would have chances to pull out the W, because JA brings big play unpredictability the likes of which haven’t been seen in Orchard Park since my avatar namesake, and that’s a fact ladies and gents! 5 total TD’s on his back, and this is his rookie floor, not ceiling? Mic drop. Edited December 31, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I loved that he pursued the guy, and loved it even more that he tried to strip the ball out of his hands, which by the time he caught up with him would have been the only way of preventing a score. Can't say I've ever seen a QB do that before. Shame it didn't work ... It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Found it. Anthony Phillips: Edited December 31, 2018 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Great analogy!! I’m nominating you for early AM post of the day ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Another amazing thing that I don't think anyone's brought up is the fact that Josh Allen made 3 block attempts on running plays that were reversed. He didn't try to avoid the play or avoid the block he welcomed it. I'm telling you guys you probably already know this but this kid is special and he's ours for the next 10 years. He's only going to get better with each game. How stupid I was to think I wanted Rosen over him..... 13 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyBill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I can’t find the video of it but Allen did the same thing in the 2016 MWC Championship game. The hit looked exactly like the one today but the DB fumbled it out of the end zone. Here is the blurb about it in the paper. Kazee stepped in front of an Allen pass at Wyoming’s 26-yard line and was off to the end zone. But Allen hit Kazee just before the goal line, knocking the ball loose for a touchback. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-azfoot-1204-story.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 What ppl need to understand is that Josh Allen is not just a quarterback He is an athlete He is highly competative He is a gamer He is passionate I really feel like this is one of the reasons we traded up....twice......and took Josh with a 7th overall pick despite he was so raw......he genuinely loves the game and is wired for it....you can just tell This is the best QB we have had under center since Jim Kelly.......and it really has been Jim Kelly/Josh Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, CowboyBill said: I can’t find the video of it but Allen did the same thing in the 2016 MWC Championship game. The hit looked exactly like the one today but the DB fumbled it out of the end zone. Here is the blurb about it in the paper. Kazee stepped in front of an Allen pass at Wyoming’s 26-yard line and was off to the end zone. But Allen hit Kazee just before the goal line, knocking the ball loose for a touchback. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-azfoot-1204-story.html Kid is a competitor, that game is on draft breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Another amazing thing that I don't think anyone's brought up is the fact that Josh Allen made 3 block attempts on running plays that were reversed. He didn't try to avoid the play or avoid the block he welcomed it. I'm telling you guys you probably already know this but this kid is special and he's ours for the next 10 years. He's only going to get better with each game. How stupid I was to think I wanted Rosen over him..... 10 years, in this NFL era, 15 years!! Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I noticed that too. He reminds me of me. Never gives up. Has those leadership qualities. Hes the boom or bust prospect. I can relate to having a high ceiling and low floor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Putin said: As long as he LEARNS from ( rookie) mistakes that he makes I’m ok with it , And makes up for it by scoring 5 TDs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, CowboyBill said: I can’t find the video of it but Allen did the same thing in the 2016 MWC Championship game. The hit looked exactly like the one today but the DB fumbled it out of the end zone. Here is the blurb about it in the paper. Kazee stepped in front of an Allen pass at Wyoming’s 26-yard line and was off to the end zone. But Allen hit Kazee just before the goal line, knocking the ball loose for a touchback. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sd-sp-azfoot-1204-story.html That play is at the 1:30 mark. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: What ppl need to understand is that Josh Allen is not just a quarterback He is an athlete He is highly competative He is a gamer He is passionate I really feel like this is one of the reasons we traded up....twice......and took Josh with a 7th overall pick despite he was so raw......he genuinely loves the game and is wired for it....you can just tell This is the best QB we have had under center since Jim Kelly.......and it really has been Jim Kelly/Josh Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else Bledsoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: What ppl need to understand is that Josh Allen is not just a quarterback He is an athlete He is highly competative He is a gamer He is passionate I really feel like this is one of the reasons we traded up....twice......and took Josh with a 7th overall pick despite he was so raw......he genuinely loves the game and is wired for it....you can just tell This is the best QB we have had under center since Jim Kelly.......and it really has been Jim Kelly/Josh Allen >>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else Love your optimism John - can't wait for next season with some upgraded weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Another Fan said: I know he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do but I thought that was pretty cool he tried to tackle Jones and swipe the ball. He didn’t give up on the play and pout his head. Even before the second half started little things like that make me more and more confident in him. if he was a better athlete he would have done what Jimbo did - tackle the player and break his leg. I like the fact that Josh is an athlete and not just a human jugs machine but he needs more work with Palmer during this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 It's nice showing heart and trying to make a play on the ball but I don't want my QB acting like a LB. Be like Brady and be a pansy sometimes LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Found it. Anthony Phillips: Yes and this type of film is something every defense player should watch - do not expect the QB to just wiff out like Tommie boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I just like the peel back block to allow Shady to get to the LOS later in the game instead of losing like 10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I don't want to see him tackling, because that would mean there was an int or fumble. What I do want is to see him block somebody into the next dimension like Thomas did yesterday. Then - and only then - will I buy a 8' x 20' wall mural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 8 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Another amazing thing that I don't think anyone's brought up is the fact that Josh Allen made 3 block attempts on running plays that were reversed. He didn't try to avoid the play or avoid the block he welcomed it. I'm telling you guys you probably already know this but this kid is special and he's ours for the next 10 years. He's only going to get better with each game. How stupid I was to think I wanted Rosen over him..... I was thinking Rosen too! Man so glad we got the right Josh!! He just loves the game ! Wasn’t just talking when he said that QB in the NFL was all he ever wanted to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 His reaction was nice and shows his great competitiveness, but even better was how he bounced back (and then some!) unaffected in the 2nd half. He is mentally tough. He has shown it in interviews, how he handled his injury, this pick 6, the zero point game in GB, etc. Remember, that was his first and only pick 6! I expected a lot more of these rookie mistakes, and overall only 4-5 bad passes in 10 games and only one pick 6 ain't so bad! (Yes many inaccurate passes but here I'm talking bad rookie decisions). Replacing Tyrod Taylor (remember him?) I expected at times to miss the scrambling and ball protection. Instead he outran TT (which himself had broken the Bills QB rush record) in only 10 games and made very few bad decisions. With way more upside, enthusiasm, leadership, etc. He overdelivered to me. This guy is special and let's hope this offseason that the OLine and WR group are greatly improved! The Bills O could be a force as of 2019! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Allen got whalloped while blocking on the play before the INT, I suspect he was still groggy when he threw that pass. Coaches should’ve known better than to call a pass in that situation, at that point in the game, after Allen just got his clock cleaned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I remember that Kelly hit. Glad you found it, although I could’ve done without the closeups and rewinds. Gnarly injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Looking for the tackle after he throws an int is instinctually how Allen reacts when he makes a mistake. It’s what I have seen him do on every interception that he threw in college. When I watched his college tape, that was one of the things that stood out to me. It’s the competitive drive burning inside of him which is one thing I love about the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I actually don’t want my starting QB throwing blocks or trying to tackle guys. Obviously his instincts take over in situations like that but please don’t get hurt doing it, especially in a meaningless game. We need him healthy for the offseason so he can get back to work and improve his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 what was crazy about that series is why run the damn ball on first down when you needed to execute a real 2 minute offense and than after a little to no gain forced the issue of needing to pass. The play calling at time seems brilliant and other times makes me scratch my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The best part of Allen's effort on that play was that it was totally realistic. It wasn't just a spaz effort to try to look like he was trying after a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: That play is at the 1:30 mark. The funny thing is that in today's college football Allen may have been called for targeting on that play! But the key thing we saw was that Allen shrugged that throw off and went on to have a stellar 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) This kid has heart and guts. You can't argue that. I really hope Beane is capable of bringing in legit weapons and seeing what Allen can really do with some firepower around him. Edited December 31, 2018 by BillsPride12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Found it. Anthony Phillips: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Found it. Anthony Phillips: I remember this as Kelly was on his longest streak without an INT and was pissed...folks back then forgot that he was offered a linebacker scholarship from Joe Pa at Penn State before electing to play QB for Miami. Plays like that reminded them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, RiotAct said: Bledsoe He’s Jim Kelly all day long as far as intangibles. Kelly was an accurate passer, but had no wheels and didn’t have the arm Allen has. Bledsoe had a great arm but held onto the ball forever. Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: It really reminded me of when Kelly got intercepted one time and totally destroyed the guy! I believe he broke his leg! Kelly was pissed and took it out on that guy!! I see the same fire from Josh and I love that!! Found it. Anthony Phillips: Those were the Atlanta Falcons in 1995. And I believe Kelly hurt his right shoulder making that bone-crushing tackle. 3 minutes ago, dlonce said: He’s Jim Kelly all day long as far as intangibles. Kelly was an accurate passer, but had no wheels and didn’t have the arm Allen has. Bledsoe had a great arm but held onto the ball forever. Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket. Kelly has a LIFETIME NFL completion % of 60.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Another Fan said: I know he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do but I thought that was pretty cool he tried to tackle Jones and swipe the ball. He didn’t give up on the play and pout his head. Even before the second half started little things like that make me more and more confident in him. It was nice to see that and he has a lot of Brett Favre and Jim Kelly in him by nature...and that's all good...but his "toughness" or "will to win" will not be what decides if he stays in the league. He needs to improve with quarterbacking basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: It was nice to see that and he has a lot of Brett Favre and Jim Kelly in him by nature...and that's all good...but his "toughness" or "will to win" will not be what decides if he stays in the league. He needs to improve with quarterbacking basics. At this stage I think such comments are a bit silly. Josh Allen (even with the growing pains) out performs more than a few NFL QBs who have "stayed" in the league. The question is more is he the right QB for the Bills to get them to the next level. I can think of 3-4 teams without much effort that would give a lot to have Allen with all his "quarterbacking basics" flaws, vs what they now have behind center. Edited December 31, 2018 by WideNine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: At this stage I think such comments are a bit silly. Josh Allen (even with the growing pains) out performs more than a few NFL QBs who have "stayed" in the league. The question is more is he the right QB for the Bills to get them to the next level. I can think of 3-4 teams without much effort that would give their right testicle to have Allen with all his "quarterbacking basics" flaws. I disagree with your early assessment, but I'm not going to argue with you about it. We can just let next season unfold as it will. This doesn't need to be debated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 27 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I disagree with your early assessment, but I'm not going to argue with you about it. We can just let next season unfold as it will. This doesn't need to be debated now. I can respect that. We can put a pin in it for now and revisit next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Another Fan said: I know he’s just doing what he’s supposed to do but I thought that was pretty cool he tried to tackle Jones and swipe the ball. He didn’t give up on the play and pout his head. Even before the second half started little things like that make me more and more confident in him. How would you have felt if he had wrecked his shoulder doing that? There are things you want your [hopefully] franchise QB to do, and things you do not. Two things in the NOT category are the player hurdling he did at the beginning of the season, and making that tackle in a meaningless game that for all practical purposes had already been decided by that point. He has learned to slide and hasn't hurdled anyone lately. He is a charged up rookie that has learned this season, but has some more learning to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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