What is your final straw?

[RevWarRifleman]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I do not have a final straw. I sat through some pretty putrid teams in the late 70s and mid-80s... this ain't nuthin' if you've watched Joe Dufek start as your QB. 

I second that statement. We lived through it.  It was like watching today's game each week!

[Mountain Man]

9 hours ago, Peter said:

 

I have been a fan for decades.  The Buffalo Bills are part of my DNA.  McCoach and his process have made it very hard to be enthusiastic about this team or where it is going.  So yes, in my view, he has sucked the life out of this franchise.

 

I am sick and tired of listening to all of the cliches and platitudes as I am now during his post game press conference.  He is brutal.

So you'll be well aware a proper rebuild is EXACTLY what this team needed, the reason you go 6-10 every year is because you refuse a total rebuild. Now we get one, people moan. This team will 2-14 /3-13 and I'll be pleased, because after so long it's exactly what was needed

9 hours ago, dlonce said:

. I’ve come to the conclusion that McDermot and Beane have created a very poor squad. .

Which is precisely how you rebuild a team properly.....

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I watch every game no matter what.

 

My final straw will be if the offense isn't addressed this offseason.

 

 

[row_33]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

I watch every game no matter what.

 

My final straw will be if the offense isn't addressed this offseason.

 

 

 

Our first missed game will be the one after they bury/cremate us

 

 

[Scott7975]

I expected this season. I don't understand how people did not see this coming.

[Victory Formation]

I'll watch when Allen goes back in, didn't watch the game yesterday either. To the folks out there wearing zubaz pants and still watching the games, I salute you.

Edited October 22, 2018 by NewDayBills

[Jaywrizzo]

11 hours ago, Lfod said:

I have no last straw man. I'm no bandwagon fan. 

And this is why we keep getting garbage like this. You're a bandwagon fan if you desire more than this mess...but hey, you're not a bandwagon fan....U just keep watching buddy..... I'm going to go watch what a team shiyld actually look like!

[Peter]

7 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

So you'll be well aware a proper rebuild is EXACTLY what this team needed, the reason you go 6-10 every year is because you refuse a total rebuild. Now we get one, people moan. This team will 2-14 /3-13 and I'll be pleased, because after so long it's exactly what was needed

Which is precisely how you rebuild a team properly.....

 

McBeane have proved that they can put together a team that can get destroyed an inordinate amount of times - even against a previously one win team.  

 

I am not sure getting blown is what I would describe as a "proper rebuild."

[row_33]

7 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I expected this season. I don't understand how people did not see this coming.

 

i've expected this season every year since 2000, maybe 3 times it's risen above this level of expectation

 

Go Bills!

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Started taking my Sundays back two weeks ago. I'll watch the first half, and when it goes as expected, move on to better activities. I popped the Indy game on for the first quarter, and then realized I have better stuff to do. I wont cut them off completely, but I'm basically moving on to the offseason.

[cd1]

Apparently, when it appears that the management has stopped trying to win, I loose interest in watching.

 

McDermott has succeeded in diminishing my desire to spend time watching Bills football. I am meh about the Bills for the first time ever.

 

Good job McDermott.

[H2o]

I'm actually ok with it. The Bills being as bad as they are helps me to separate from things. I now have 3 and a half extra hours on Sunday I'm not posted up in front of a TV. I take that time to get in some work with my own kids earlier in the afternoon, going over things with them in retrospect, versus later because they play their games on Saturdays. 

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Started taking my Sundays back two weeks ago. I'll watch the first half, and when it goes as expected, move on to better activities. I popped the Indy game on for the first quarter, and then realized I have better stuff to do. I wont cut them off completely, but I'm basically moving on to the offseason.

Same for me.  I expected this season as well but it's a complete waste of time to spend hours watching a team that cant compete in the least.   I love the Bills, have for a very long time, but I prefer watching college football at this point.

 

I will probably tune into the first half Monday night but I am not going to bother going into work exhausted for a meaningless game.  When Allen returns I may watch more but it's pointless to watch Anderson or Peterman because I dont see a scenario where either is on the team next year. 

[Soda Popinski]

In a season I went in with 7-9 expectations, there isn't much that could be my final straw.   I'm really just pissed that we got rid of McCarron and went with Peterman, other than the QB situation being mucked up, this season is kind of going the way I thought it would.   

 

Although  would have thought we beat Houston and Indy and give the fans false hope.   That's usually the Bills way.  

[T master]

The Colts game after all the rookie mistakes this coaching staff has made when it comes to the QB then letting good players go in FA to other teams & keeping players that have played below average i'm out !! 

 

They could have played this bad with all rookies & gotten them some on field experience but they are playing this bad with veterans so WTF !! 

 

I'm tired of the process & the after game speeches that they have to look at the tape & see what we did good & learn from what we did bad at some $60 k per game on the low end & what ever it is the coaches make they should fire all their ***** !! I'm out !! 

[section122]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Started taking my Sundays back two weeks ago. I'll watch the first half, and when it goes as expected, move on to better activities. I popped the Indy game on for the first quarter, and then realized I have better stuff to do. I wont cut them off completely, but I'm basically moving on to the offseason.

 

I quit watching yesterday early for the first time since that SF game where they went 300/300 against us.  They aren't trying to win this year and I understand it but that doesn't help me enjoy watching that nonsense for 3.5 hours on a weekend.  I found myself wishing they would switch to the patriots game because at least that was entertaining.  I found myself wondering if they aren't trying to win why am I watching hoping they will win?  MNF should be a big deal and I know I will watch because I always watch MNF but I wish it were different teams.

 

A long time ago @BADOLBILZ talked about apathy from fans being the worst thing for a sports team to recover from and I think apathetic is a great word for how I feel right now.  I used to live for Sundays and Bills games.  Now it just doesn't matter... sad state of affairs right now hopefully they work hard this off season to address the assortment of issues (many self created) to be at least competitive again.

[Augie]

I’m not a quitter.

 

 

 

But hiring Gruden would have put me on a sabbatical. 

[Mountain Man]

33 minutes ago, Peter said:

 

McBeane have proved that they can put together a team that can get destroyed an inordinate amount of times - even against a previously one win team.  

 

I am not sure getting blown is what I would describe as a "proper rebuild."

Well you don't know what a rebuild is made of then. Roster deconstruction, building cap space and accumulating draft picks is how you a rebuild properly.

[Peter]

10 minutes ago, Mountain Man said:

Well you don't know what a rebuild is made of then. Roster deconstruction, building cap space and accumulating draft picks is how you a rebuild properly.

 

They certainly are good at deconstruction . . . that is for sure.

 

Whether they can be trusted to move forward, spend available cap space, etc. is another story.

[Cripple Creek]

7 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

I expected this season. I don't understand how people did not see this coming.

Didn't see incompetence?

 

Didn't see being badly out coached?

 

Didn't see multiple blow outs?

 

Of course we saw a tough season. Unfortunately some of this is self inflicted. Talent has been traded away or not re-signed and it hasn't been replaced.  

 

Tell me, what gives you confidence that McDermott will have a successful off season just because they have $$$$$ available?  Point to moves that prove he knows how to judge talent (players and coaches) specifically on the offensive side of the ball.

[Dr.Sack]

Pegula moving the team out of town. At that point we raid the building and take hostages. 

[nedboy7]

The rebuild is reminding me of flat earth theory.  Kinda makes sense until you engage some neurons. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I stopped watching the Bills religiously in the middle of 2013. 

 

Stopped making the weekly effort to get to a TV or pay for Sunday Ticket. 

 

WGR makes it easy to know exactly what's going on and to have a discussion. 

[rockpile]

17 hours ago, Sandhill Mike said:

I don't think there's any such thing as a bandwagon Bills fan.

 

 

I do. When the Bills were annual playoff contenders and AFC Champs, every Monday was started with positive talk about the team at "the water cooler". 

 

Every store had a large display of Bills various types of Bills merchandise.

 

On a stroll trough the mall, almost everyone was wearing Bills jerseys, coats, hats, scarfs, ties, sneakers, etc,

 

Now when I wear clothes with a Bills logo, some people actually mock me or say something encouraging, like you would hear at a funeral.

 

Let the Bills tear up the league with a couple winning seasons and the bandwagon fans will come out of their closets.

 

I survive by being a fan, but expecting nothing from them in return. 

[corta765]

There is no final straw I love watching regardless of product. BUT yesterday we were all cheering for Peterman to go in after Anderson's 2nd INT to see how much worse it could get and on the 3rd INT we were all pulling for the Colts to get a TD. Yea I've hit that point of just lose for draft reasons and if they win its like a nice surprise.

Edited October 22, 2018 by corta765

[row_33]

13 minutes ago, rockpile said:

 

I do. When the Bills were annual playoff contenders and AFC Champs, every Monday was started with positive talk about the team at "the water cooler". 

 

Every store had a large display of Bills various types of Bills merchandise.

 

On a stroll trough the mall, almost everyone was wearing Bills jerseys, coats, hats, scarfs, ties, sneakers, etc,

 

Now when I wear clothes with a Bills logo, some people actually mock me or say something encouraging, like you would hear at a funeral.

 

Let the Bills tear up the league with a couple winning seasons and the bandwagon fans will come out of their closets.

 

I survive by being a fan, but expecting nothing from them in return. 

 

 

the youngest of us are all in our 50s now who remember the Kelly Era

 

 

 

[Dopey]

17 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Yep. And the weather here in Central FL is turning beautiful. 

 

Will no longer watch live. Unless Allen is playing to watch his development 

49% overnight her in N. Florida. 72 for high today. Been waiting for this. When I lived in Buffalo, I used to watch every game til the end(even in those 2-14 yrs).No more, I will watch if Allen plays. Otherwise, watching video replay.

[rodneykm]

Death. I'll never give up on Buffalo regardless. 

 

It is what it is. 

3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

 

the youngest of us are all in our 50s now who remember the Kelly Era

 

 

 

 

38 here and I fondly remember the Kelly days. Its what made me the Bills fan I am today.

[Big Gun]

17 hours ago, uticaclub said:

I feel that the team has quit on this coach, it doesn’t matter what my last straw was but for the guys in the locker room, having Peterman blow the game in Houston was their last straw. Wouldn’t be surprised with Frazier is our coach on Monday Night

Yup, I could sense that also, their body language on the field was different than it had been, I can't explain it, it just was.

 

Then you hear rumblings out of the locker room about players being unhappy about certain things, doesn't take rocket science to connect the dots. 

Edited October 22, 2018 by pop gun

[rockpile]

10 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

 

the youngest of us are all in our 50s now who remember the Kelly Era

 

 

 

 

I understand. My children are in their 30's and 40's and barely remember those days. I was just saying that there ARE bandwagon fans, and you will see them with price tags still on their Bills gear, if given a reason to come back.

 

Also, the only last straw for me would be if the team ever left Buffalo. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 hours ago, benderbender said:

As it was repeated ad nauseam, I know it’s only preseason, and I’m still totally not panicking. But say, hypothetically, we don’t run the table and finish 11-5. At what point do you start taking back your Sundays?

 

It’s only preseason?  That’s a relief 

[row_33]

11 minutes ago, rockpile said:

 

I understand. My children are in their 30's and 40's and barely remember those days. I was just saying that there ARE bandwagon fans, and you will see them with price tags still on their Bills gear, if given a reason to come back.

 

Also, the only last straw for me would be if the team ever left Buffalo. 

 

that's a good final last straw

 

i remember an article a few years ago where a reporter came to Buffalo and couldn't find any young fans wearing Bills gear at all

 

 

[billsredneck1]

18 hours ago, Peter said:

 

I have been a fan for decades.  The Buffalo Bills are part of my DNA.  McCoach and his process have made it very hard to be enthusiastic about this team or where it is going.  So yes, in my view, he has sucked the life out of this franchise.

 

I am sick and tired of listening to all of the cliches and platitudes as I am now during his post game press conference.  He is brutal.

....but it all gets forgotten about by thursday like usual.

17 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Yup, and Ughhh is right. 

i thought he was gonna be good for us...

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said:

Didn't see incompetence?

 

Didn't see being badly out coached?

 

Didn't see multiple blow outs?

 

Of course we saw a tough season. Unfortunately some of this is self inflicted. Talent has been traded away or not re-signed and it hasn't been replaced.  

 

Tell me, what gives you confidence that McDermott will have a successful off season just because they have $$$$$ available?  Point to moves that prove he knows how to judge talent (players and coaches) specifically on the offensive side of the ball.

 

I never said I have confidence of them building a competitive team. All I said was with all the moves they have made over the last two seasons that I expected this season to be absolute garbage. Everyone should have unless they were blind. 

50 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

 

the youngest of us are all in our 50s now who remember the Kelly Era

 

 

 

 

Hey, I’m still in my 40’s!

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I never said I have confidence of them building a competitive team. All I said was with all the moves they have made over the last two seasons that I expected this season to be absolute garbage. Everyone should have unless they were blind. 

 

Hey, I’m still in my 40’s!

 

i'll extend the olive branch out those in their 40s who remember when the Bills had a serious contender...

 

 

[wppete]

 

 

[MarkAF43]

I've been a Bills fan my entire life, I'm almost 41 and I don't know, for some reason this is the first time I can remember that I feel really disappointed to be a Bills fan. Something feels different and I can't put my finger on it, but it's a sad feeling.  I'm always an optimistic person but I just feel like is there really hope to get better?  With that being said I'll never give up, they're my team, I'll always be a fan but it's the worst feeling I've had in awhile as a fan.

[John from Riverside]

19 hours ago, Helpmenow said:

When McDermott was hired

There really needs to be a negative rep button on this board 

[Real McClappy]

[CodeMonkey]

19 hours ago, benderbender said:

As it was repeated ad nauseam, I know it’s only preseason, and I’m still totally not panicking. But say, hypothetically, we don’t run the table and finish 11-5. At what point do you start taking back your Sundays?

 

I have for a couple seasons already.  Record games while out doing something with family and friends then watch the game commercial free during dinner with the family.  

I can't see any reason to give up even one Sunday afternoon for this team.  Not sure yet what I'll do about this Monday, probably record and watch during Tuesday dinner.  Absolutely not worth staying up to watch that.