Shaw66 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 18 hours ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. If h's so obviously done, why would anyone trade for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: If h's so obviously done, why would anyone trade for him? Because a lot of dumb people run NFL teams. Someone just traded for Marshall Newhouse last week. To be clear, I shouldn't have said that he's done. I meant his effectiveness for this team is done. He'd be a good weapon for a high flying offense. This team needs a guy who'll put his head down and just pound the ball. The o-line is not good enough to create holes for him to get to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: If h's so obviously done, why would anyone trade for him? Shaw? People buy and sell things every day! What's something worth? "Whatever someone will pay you for it (him)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: I wouldn't give Pittsburgh a 2nd or 3rd and Shady for Bell. Straight up shady for bell. Bells on a 1 year deal with Pitts at most. Pitts get a really good player who could put them over the top. We get Bell with the possibility to extend him for 4 years at a hefty price, but we will help and might even help with Allen's development. In 4 years Allen is ready for an extension, Bell will be 30 and released, and that money can be given to Allen. Win win for everyone. I dont think that's how it works. We would already have a negotiated deal with Bell, or else no trade. He would have to sign his tender, then be traded to us, then sign his new deal the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 He still has gas left in the tank, the Bills just don't have the line to get him going, an OC who's willing to use him, or WR's who can make the defense respect the passing game enough to open up the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 10:47 AM, Scott7975 said: Because McCoy is lucky to make it to the line of scrimmage. Are you looking to go back to run, run, 3rd and long, pass, punt? He ran 10 yards for a 1st the other day and it was throw throw throw punt.. How bout a screen.how bout he line up in the slot..Theres other ways than run run pass. Josh allen was lost at the beginning of the game Sunday, could have used mccoy and ivory to help settle him down. Mccoy is the only good weapon the bills have on offense, so use him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 9/30/2018 at 11:01 PM, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Other teams are smarter than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Given that this is a development year, they probably should try to get something for Captain McCoy. It would be so Billsy to trade a captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Yes. McCoy is done. Just look at how the Bills kept giving him the ball and he did nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I think this thread was settled today, in McCoy's favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 haha dumb dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) On 9/30/2018 at 11:01 PM, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Good call! lol Im sure it had nothing to do with him only getting 21 total touches in the first 4 games... Surprisingly, when he gets the ball he is still very good. Edited October 7, 2018 by BillsFan4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsClinton Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 He was literally half (108 of 223) of our entire offensive output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Mccoy the god ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 This seems like a question for the Titans ankles...they appear to be busy covered in ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Shady still has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Turns out it’s significantly easier to gain rushing yards when you’re given the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, BillsClinton said: He was literally half (108 of 223) of our entire offensive output. Literally? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, BillsClinton said: He was literally half (108 of 223) of our entire offensive output. I'm sorry, but misuse of the word literally drives me figuratively insane. 223 divided by 2 = 111.5 . Sorry, that is not LITERALLY half. I can almost excuse the math, but don't say literally. Sorry I'm whining 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 He's healthy for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 ???? Best player on that field. Just didn't get touches in previous 3 games. I hate hot takes like these , the guy hasn't lost 1/10th of a step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Looked pretty good today when they decided to run the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, familykwi said: I'm sorry, but misuse of the word literally drives me figuratively insane. 223 divided by 2 = 111.5 . Sorry, that is not LITERALLY half. I can almost excuse the math, but don't say literally. Sorry I'm whining They have actually changed the definition (or added a secondary one) of literally to mean just the opposite. This is likely because people misused it so much. But: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally : in effect : VIRTUALLY —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Yeah I was about to pst that Smokin.....he is getting healthy and contribution is going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, familykwi said: I'm sorry, but misuse of the word literally drives me figuratively insane. 223 divided by 2 = 111.5 . Sorry, that is not LITERALLY half. I can almost excuse the math, but don't say literally. Sorry I'm whining I think he meant "approximately". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Took a lot of heat for this post. Wondering what everyone thinks now. If it's true that teams called about him at the deadline and the Bills refused to trade him, as has been reported, that is another terrible indictment on this front office. Should have taken whatever you could get for him. He may have some value somewhere, but it's not in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) On 9/30/2018 at 11:01 PM, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Lol. Should we ask for one 1st or hold out for two? You know our games are on TV, right? Other teams know he's done. Edited December 24, 2018 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, QB Bills said: Took a lot of heat for this post. Wondering what everyone thinks now. If it's true that teams called about him at the deadline and the Bills refused to trade him, as has been reported, that is another terrible indictment on this front office. Should have taken whatever you could get for him. He may have some value somewhere, but it's not in Buffalo. I agree ..anything was there at the deadline, they should have taken it.. and that went for a lot of players at the deadline. This is a culture over strategy thing though..widely reported McD loves what the guy brings to the room..why he is prolly back next year ..but at $2m, not $9M$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Nobody’s trading for McCoy. Just cut him. He is officially worthless now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I love McCoy but it's time to move on from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 What trade value does he have? He is a high cost back who at this late stage of his career can only be used as a specialty back. He isn't much of an inside runner who can be a workhorse back. He can be used as a swing back or a receiving back but unless he has a top-shelf line (which we don't have) his dancing style simply doesn't work. Ivory is more suited for this offense but again he is a fading back at the end of his career. What this team needs are backs with fresh legs who run north/south. So when an honest assessment of our offense is made our offense has to be reconstructed on the OL, receiving unit and the backfield. With the exception of the qb this is major rebuild. Tinkering around the edges is not going to be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, JohnC said: What trade value does he have? He is a high cost back who at this late stage of his career can only be used as a specialty back. He isn't much of an inside runner who can be a workhorse back. He can be used as a swing back or a receiving back but unless he has a top-shelf line (which we don't have) his dancing style simply doesn't work. Ivory is more suited for this offense but again he is a fading back at the end of his career. What this team needs are backs with fresh legs who run north/south. So when an honest assessment of our offense is made our offense has to be reconstructed on the OL, receiving unit and the backfield. With the exception of the qb this is major rebuild. Tinkering around the edges is not going to be sufficient. ...Peterson signed with Deadskins for vet minimum ($1.015 mil).....3 years older and already has 1,042 yards in 2018....think somebody will pay Shady his $6+ mil?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Peterson signed with Deadskins for vet minimum ($1.015 mil).....3 years older and already has 1,042 yards in 2018....think somebody will pay Shady his $6+ mil?..... No one is going to pay Shady that amount money for his fading production. Peterson was basically out of the game when the Skins called after a string of backs got hurt. And Peterson is for the most part a north/south runner who played well for the Skins. If you put Shady on the Skins with his dancing style he would be as ineffective with them as with us. Putting aside the money issue McCoy's style of play is not suited for us, especially if you consider the OL he has to play with. As a receiving back he may have some utility but not at his price. My guess is that he won't be back next year. Without a doubt Peterson would have been more effective in Buffalo than McCoy was simply based on his style of running. Edited December 24, 2018 by JohnC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Just FYI: Sorry, I can't get the image here to move over to here. $99,686,374 is the Cap Space at Spotrac if Shady and Clay go. Edited December 24, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Weird that holding on to one of the most expensive RBs who is 30 and had a bunch of off field stuff didn’t work out for us. They will release McCoy this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Weird that holding on to one of the most expensive RBs who is 30 and had a bunch of off field stuff didn’t work out for us. They will release McCoy this offseason. My money is on a restructure down to about $2.5-$ 3M. Unless what happened yesterday is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: My money is on a restructure down to about $2.5-$ 3M. Unless what happened yesterday is a big deal. I’d be fine with that. I also just watched Chris Carson, a 7th rounder, look like a stud last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I’d be fine with that. I also just watched Chris Carson, a 7th rounder, look like a stud last night. All dependent on Shady and his ego. He becomes the 3rd down back, not the bell cow. 5 to 7 rushes a game--5-7 passing targets per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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