Marrone wants “Zero Turnovers” from Blake Bortles this year

[Royale with Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

I was curious to see how many turnovers Blake has actually had in the NFL. 79 in 4 years.

 

I'm not even mad, that's impressive.

 

If you had a drinking game where you have to take a shot with every Blake Bortle's turnover......you'd be Otis from the Andy Griffith Show.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, hemma said:

Marrone would rather coach robots.

He's dour/anal and will suck the fun out of the game for Bortles.

You forgot 'sullen'.  Aside from that, A+.

 

If it puts a frown on his puss, it's OK in my book.

Edited September 6, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[RochesterRob]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If you had a drinking game where you have to take a shot with every Blake Bortle's turnover......you'd be Otis from the Andy Griffith Show.

  If I want to get drunk fast I would pop in a Gomer Pyle, USMC DVD and take a shot every time Sergeant Carter said "Pyle!"  I Wonder why Otis never showed up there when Aunt Bea stopped in for a visit?  

[Warcodered]

Guys really jinxing Bortles first throw of the season.

[dollars 2 donuts]

@YoloinOhio

 

Yolo, wasn't he also quoted as saying during the same interview that he doesn't want his punter punting any farther out than inside the other teams 40 as he is worried about returns for a TD?

 

Also that he is the inventor of the Hail Mary Running Play?

[teef]

14 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

My favourite Blake Bortles fact.

 

Blake Bortles only averages 0.4 yards more per pass attempt than per rush attempt.

 

 

this is pretty incredible.  i'm sure the bills playoff game has something to do with this.

[eball]

2 hours ago, joesixpack said:

Glad I drafted fournette 

 

LOL me too.  Picked him up 9th but I think he definitely could be a top 5 player given the circumstances.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Is this any shock? 

 

This is the man that punted on 4th-2, from the Pittsburgh 36 yard line, in the 4th quarter, down by 2 scores so that he could "play the field position" when the team had a 3-6 record. 

 

He is ridiculously conservative and his team will never have a top flight offense with him and Hackett at the helm.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Straight Hucklebuck

[buffaloboyinATL]

Didn't he say last year that ideally Bortles would never throw the ball?  That is one way to get zero interceptions.

[stuvian]

didn't know they ran the wishbone

[whatdrought]

Jags are going to implode this year. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 hours ago, hemma said:

Marrone would rather coach robots.

He's dour/anal and will suck the fun out of the game for Bortles.

This is all true. But, man the guy sure loves him some bologna.

[eanyills]

3 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

You think BB goes out and sits Tom down and tells him it's ok to throw an INT because it means he was trying to make something? And if the QB is going to wilt under a comment like that with pressure then he is not a starting QB in the NFL.

 

 

1) Yes, I do. And it’s shown in the playcalling and flexibility that other QB’s are given to call their own plays on the field. Brady, Roelisberger, Rodgers, etc., Nobody is telling those guys not to take chances for fear of throwing an INT. Nobody wants to throw a pick but nobody is telling those QB’s to reel it in and play conservative. On the other hand, you ever watch a Jags game? Bortles doesn’t get the same leeway to call his own shots. You rarely see deep shots. Marrone, Hackett, and Bortles are on another level of conservative than other NFL coaching staffs (which are usually pretty conservative).

 

2. Bortles is barely a starting NFL QB. The rumors were flying before last season about his short leash. Even though the team was decent, Bortles was mediocre. I would not be shocked to see Bortles go down the path of journeyman soon...

Edited September 6, 2018 by eanyills

[Chandler#81]

So yer sayin’ Bortles will be yanked Sunday!

[Fadingpain]

Blake Bortles is one hell of a bad QB, but he was still good enough to win his duel with Tyrod in a playoff game.

 

 

[MJS]

Still a baffoon and always will be.

[Rico]

If he wants zero turnovers, he should’ve traded for Tyrod.

[Best Player Available]

Rumor is Bortles bakes horrible turnovers.

Maroon is a huge cheesecake factory guy. 

 

other Marrone news: Yesterday some on - air bobbleheads were picking,

who they thought might be Coach of the year. Yep, Marrone is near the top of the list. lol

[SouthNYfan]

8 minutes ago, Rico said:

If he wants zero turnovers, he should’ve traded for Tyrod.

 

He didn't want zero touchdowns though

[billsfan_34]

Oh Dougie- want in one hand, dookie in the other...

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

The only thing Doug Marrone wants to be +15 in is punts... FACT!

[billsfan_34]

24 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

Blake Bortles is one hell of a bad QB, but he was still good enough to win his duel with Tyrod in a playoff game.

 

 

Perspective 

4 hours ago, wppete said:

I really dislike everything about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

The only team In all professional sports, that I know of, that tarps seats to “sell out”.

[cd1]

3 hours ago, wppete said:

Doug is an Idiot. 

 

Doug is a BULLY!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Just coach talk, he knows it ain't happening.

 

 

[jtothebrown]

Why do we care what a former coach thinks or does with his qb, especially for a team hat is not in our division.

 

WHY CREATE A LINK FOR THIS!

[The Wiz]

I really want Bortles to throw a pick on his first pass, go to the sideline and say "so much for that"

[Another Fan]

29 minutes ago, cd1 said:

 

Doug is a BULLY!

And a Meathead!  What a combo...

[YoloinOhio]

 

14 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I really want Bortles to throw a pick on his first pass, go to the sideline and say "so much for that"

Edited September 6, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[wppete]

Since we are talking about idiots......

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

People in hell want ice water, Doug.

 

but seriously - he had this same philosophy with EJ and I thought it made him way too tentative and scared. I think it’s also what led to the Jags getting so conservative at the end of the AFC Championship Game, not trusting Bortles to throw. I mean he’s not a great passer but you have to at least try to take chances through the air. 

 

I think there is an ideal # of INTs and it’s not zero. Fournette is going to see  a lot of stacked boxes - 1st down handoffs in shotgun all day.

 

 

I think it's just media posturing by "St Doug".  Didn't he say last year something to the effect that it would be OK with him if they ran on every snap and Bortles had 0 yards every game?  Bortles passed for less yards than he'd had since his rookie season and was overall, a far more effective QB last year with <1 INT per game for the first time ever

 

Of course taking Marrone at face value, it's an interesting question.  As a metric, I look at the ratio of TD to INT thrown by a QB.  This can be too low.  Bortles current ratio of 1.4 is too low.  Other notable QB who rock a 1.5-1.6 ratio like Eli Manning, Michael Vick, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, and Ryan Tannehill tend to have people questioning their overall effectiveness as QB for other reasons. 

On the other hand, I don't know if you'll be able to define an upper bound.  Aaron Rodgers rocks a TD/INT ratio of 4.0 with ~0.5 INT per start on average.  Brady is right behind him with a TD/INT ratio of 3.0 and ~0.6 INT per start on average.  I don't think anyone would regard either of them as an ineffective QBs who play scared.  

 

Most of the QB we'd generally regard as "franchise" (P. Manning, Brees, Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, Luck) run between 1.8 - 2.4, with an absolute number of <1 INT per game (but often close) through their careers.  The salient point to your question is, for none of them is it zero, nor did they ever have a year where it was zero.

 

Anyway, to your point, I don't think you can define an ideal TD/INT ratio, but Marrone is clearly off his rocker suggesting 0 as a goal or suggesting that -5 INT is of more value than +15 TD.

[The Wiz]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, eanyills said:

2. Bortles is barely a starting NFL QB. The rumors were flying before last season about his short leash. Even though the team was decent, Bortles was mediocre. I would not be shocked to see Bortles go down the path of journeyman soon...

 

Dude, he just signed a 3 year, $54M contract with the Jags, $26.5M guaranteed.  That's a lot of chump change for a guy on a short leash.

[co_springs_billsfan]

23 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Is that Andre from The League with hair?

[SouthNYfan]

39 minutes ago, co_springs_billsfan said:

Is that Andre from The League with hair?

 

Child please.

[SouthNYfan]

2 hours ago, eanyills said:

2. Bortles is barely a starting NFL QB. The rumors were flying before last season about his short leash. Even though the team was decent, Bortles was mediocre. I would not be shocked to see Bortles go down the path of journeyman soon...

 

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Dude, he just signed a 3 year, $54M contract with the Jags, $26.5M guaranteed.  That's a lot of chump change for a guy on a short leash.

 

Exactly Hap.

Removing his rookie season he has over 3 seasons:

 

59% comp

12,000 yards

79 TD : 47 int

5 fourth quarter comebacks

 

 

his sacks have gone down from 51 -> 34 -> 24

 

He's not terrible, and has shown improvement as the seasons have gone on

Is he Aaron rodgers? no way.

Is he "barely a starting NFL QB"? that's quite absurd.

 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Dude, he just signed a 3 year, $54M contract with the Jags, $26.5M guaranteed.  That's a lot of chump change for a guy on a short leash.

For sure that is a lot of ducats for a qb who is on a short leash. But the leash isn't mostly about being replaced as it is what he is going to allow the qb to do on the field. Marrone has a history of preferring an old school offensive approach that accentuates field position and limiting turnovers. His teams always seem to play hard for win as demonstrated  in Buffalo and Jacksonville. From a temperament standpoint the irritable coach prefers a low glitz meat and potato offense that stresses the running game. 

 

Doug Marrone is not a likable chap. But he did a good job in Buffalo and he nearly got the Jaguars into the SB last year. Maybe if he would have loosened up on offense against New England and not be so cautious at the end of the game his team would have been in the SB?

[Kelly the Dog]

Five minutes into game one he will want one turnover all year.

[Moulds_80]

ill take the over on that one

[apuszczalowski]

3 hours ago, eanyills said:

 

 

1) Yes, I do. And it’s shown in the playcalling and flexibility that other QB’s are given to call their own plays on the field. Brady, Roelisberger, Rodgers, etc., Nobody is telling those guys not to take chances for fear of throwing an INT. Nobody wants to throw a pick but nobody is telling those QB’s to reel it in and play conservative. On the other hand, you ever watch a Jags game? Bortles doesn’t get the same leeway to call his own shots. You rarely see deep shots. Marrone, Hackett, and Bortles are on another level of conservative than other NFL coaching staffs (which are usually pretty conservative).

 

2. Bortles is barely a starting NFL QB. The rumors were flying before last season about his short leash. Even though the team was decent, Bortles was mediocre. I would not be shocked to see Bortles go down the path of journeyman soon...

Those QBs dont have their coaches telling them that because they are the top QBs in the league and rarely make stupid decisions on the field.

 

The Jags know what they have at QB and run their offence accordingly. They dont take the chances cause they know they dont have a guy who is going to make the throw without worry. The top QBs have coaches that can call those plays because they know their guy can make the throw 9 times out of 10.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Bortles on a 'short leash' but keeps starting gig

 

Jaguars sticking with Blake Bortles as starter despite benching

 

Coach Doug Marrone announced Monday evening that Bortles would remain the team's starter for Sunday's game against Philadelphia in London, though a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter that backup Cody Kessler will see some first-team reps in practice and Bortles will be on "a short leash" against the Eagles.

 

"I spoke to both quarterbacks this afternoon and told them that Blake will be our team's starting quarterback," Marrone said in a statement. "I believe this gives us the best opportunity to win."

 

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