The Senator Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen starts against the Bengals - if he stays the path he’s on, he will be our starter against the Ravens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Allen. He is the best QB on this team. I am ready fornthe Josh Allen Era to start now. And that is knowing full well there is going to be valleys along the way. I also agree with Bobby. Shots for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It's the process. It will be Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: I also agree with Bobby. Shots for everyone. Dogs and cats living together! I also agree with Maj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Our starting oline will get Josh killed. Start Peterman, play Allen in the 2nd half with the 2's. Keep him healthy for as long as you can. McD better scramble a combo of 1st & 2nd string lineman to come up with a viable group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I just realized how lucky it is that the 3rd game isn't until Sunday afternoon. Gives plenty of time for JA and NP to split #1 reps before the game. Beane will probably bring in a JAG for the 4th game in a couple of days. It seems to me McDermott will keep the "starter" for game 3 quiet and let the team know Saturday. Just like he has been doing. No change to his "plan". Unless JA looks "horrible" all week, he will get the nod. That way JA keeps his head on straight with no pressure all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen's natural progression this pre-season indicates that he should be the starter, challenge him against a first string DL and D that will throw at him some game planning. If he keeps getting better against better opposition it will mean that he could be ready come September 9th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10 hours ago, T master said: Allen he has earned it but they need to look at the O line because Ducasse is a liability & so is the RT if they don't protect any better than they did last night it won't matter who is back there ! Allen has shown the ability to step up in the pocket, dodge defenders, scramble, and improvise. It definitely matters who is back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 12 hours ago, aristocrat said: Allen can make all the throws. Pete had a limited range This is my concern with Peterman as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 We're going to start the guy we need to get ready for week 1... Allen... been sayin it since OTAs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) I feel like even when the world is collapsing around him...I find myself sitting in the edge of my seat because the ball could be 35 yards down the field, on an icy rope, with the flick of a wrist. That’s not the feeling with NP If the ball is not gone in the first two seconds I get alarmed. It’s more “Please just don’t throw a pick, keep it between the numbers, not outside Nate!” With Allen it’s just “Nice...stand tall... oh nice move...just rip it....RIP IT!.....HOLY $@&$ DID YOU SEE THAT THROW!?!” Also. I’d like to believe he throws it so hard they just don’t have time to intercept it. Maybe I’m dillusional but, it’s like the defenders have to defend the receivers not the ball, because the ball’s just moving too fast to play. This to me would mean his inaccurate plays at least shouldn’t result in turnovers to the outside. Edited August 19, 2018 by GoodHands15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I think Josh plays the 1st 3 quarters with the 1’s and some of the 2’s mixed in. Some of the WR contenders like Ray-Ray may also get some time with him. Nate gets the 4th quarter and most of game 4 after Josh gets a series or 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Could just be his day though with only two of them it's probably far easier to split the reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: McD had to do that in the 15 minutes the press is there. If he had Allen in there would be dozens of tweets and stories about Allen is now #1 and he really doesn't want that today. I am no fan of Peterman but if I were McD I would have trotted out Nate with the ones for the 15 minutes, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Kiper brings up an interesting point about having him watch a qb prepare to start a regular season game. Could be beneficial for Allen to see peterman or aj prepare for a game or 2. That said Allen how different is preparing to start in a college game/ bowl game and an nfl game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 No reason to start the backup QB, might as well start Allen and just be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) If Peterman starts the cries for Allen after one bad series will be deafening. Edited August 19, 2018 by JinxedBill1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: McD had to do that in the 15 minutes the press is there. If he had Allen in there would be dozens of tweets and stories about Allen is now #1 and he really doesn't want that today. I am no fan of Peterman but if I were McD I would have trotted out Nate with the ones for the 15 minutes, too. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 It’s Josh Allen’s job just depends when he takes over. Maybe Peterman starts the first 4 games on the tough schedule. After that give the keys to Josh Allen and let him take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 9:11 AM, joesixpack said: The wording of the question is problematic. "WILL" versus "SHOULD" I'll bet McD goes with Peterman. He should go with Allen. Agree. I voted Peterman, based on the wording of the question. I am 100% in the Allen camp, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, Gugny said: Agree. I voted Peterman, based on the wording of the question. I am 100% in the Allen camp, though. I've been a bad, bad girl..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 If Allen wins the job he should be the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 9:22 AM, RiotAct said: Allen gets the first drive, then they pull him to not risk any injuries since he’ll be starting Week 1. McBeane is going to start Peterman against the Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Mike Rodak ESPN Staff Writer Nathan Peterman took the initial snap of individual drills in Bills practice Sunday, followed by Josh Allen. Reporters cannot watch 11-on-11 drills starting Sunday, but it is logical to assume Peterman will continue to lead the first-team offense for at least part of practice. AJ McCarron (right shoulder) is not practicing Sunday, along with DT Kyle Williams (knee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Somebody help me with the “Peterman should start the first four games because they are tough defenses” argument, because to me it doesn’t make one lick of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: Somebody help me with the “Peterman should start the first four games because they are tough defenses” argument, because to me it doesn’t make one lick of sense. I think they’re saying to let Allen get his feet under him before subjecting him to a guaranteed beat down at the hands of BAL, LAC or MIN. Those arguing that feel that Allen would be more likely to get injured in those games. I don’t agree, but I think that is their argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, eball said: Somebody help me with the “Peterman should start the first four games because they are tough defenses” argument, because to me it doesn’t make one lick of sense. The only reasoning that makes even half way decent arguement I’ve even seen is. “Opponent-specific game preparation as a starting NFL quarterback.” Do I think it makes a little sense to have someone watch that. Sure. If it’s behind a proven winning QB. I would assume the law of large numbers says that injuries to NFL quarterbacks show no trends as far as where in the season, career, or defense specific. It’s just a probability thing that trends even over time. Look at Wentz. He’s an NFL QB behind a great line. He got hurt. No different than a car accident. Good drivers get in car accidents all the time. You cannot hold back talent for fear of losing talent. Especially when 1st team reps are such an importance at the position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheFunPolice Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This is one of those football things. Gotta sit through a few games of the journeyman veteran QB before the rookie gets in. How else would these journeyman QBs get to play a few games as starters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 You have to consider a few things here. First and most importantly is that Peterman, who was drafted by this staff, is playing well. Second, Coach loves him Third, I think Coach really wants Nate to get some "redemption" for that Charger game. He cant possibly want his career to be "that guy who threw 5 picks in one half." I dont think coach wants that on himself either. If Peterman wins this job, that 5 pick game no longer defines Peterman's career---bc he went out and earned the job the next summer. Also, make Allen see "it just won't be handed to you." This 2nd year guy we got is also playing well---just keep working and this will sort itself out. That approach (hes been working with the 3s most of OTAs and camp for crying out loud) seems to be working with his development. If Peterman plays well, we have the greatest problem a football team can have. Potentially 2 legit starters who will be on rookie deals till 2021 and 2022. I want Allen to start but would be totally good if the coaches said "yes, Allen might just be ready and a little better, but Nate has earned it; let's let the rookie watch some and see what Nate can do." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 6:52 AM, Mr. WEO said: Final learning steps against his own team's backups in practice? Yogi Berra said it about baseball but it's true of football too. "80% of the game is 1/2 mental". And QB is a more thinking and fast decision making position than catcher. This is where I think he could benefit learning how to read pro defenses and disguised coverages etc. Set him up to succeed when he gets in by knowing this stuff already. i voted Nasty Nate. i think not starting Allen was the process. iF AJ is indeed out i suppose it could change. i don't think it necessarily means who starts vs Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Peterman will start, Allen should start, but gotta trust the Process. Allen def. comes in after week 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just hope by the time Allen comes in we're not 0-3 and end up missing the playoffs by a game. I understand the idea of letting him sit, but he's farther ahead then anyone thought, and Peterman's arm strength (or lack thereof) is going to be an issue. Aggressive secondaries are going to start jumping his routes during the regular season like they were in a bounce house. He's a solid backup, but I'm not ready to write-off this season (or a good chunk of it) just to sit Allen. Not anymore, not after what the kid's shown. I trust the process, but if Peterman starts it's going to be real tough to swallow. And if he does poorly, fans will be screaming for blood (and Allen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 8:30 AM, YoloinOhio said: Given that the qb who starts game 3 is usually the one who will start the season, who do you think McDermott will start now that AJ is hurt? (This isn’t necessarily who you want to start, it’s who you think will start) I am honestly not sure. Before the injury to McCarron - I thought they would start Josh this week to get a chance to see him with the ones for a quarter and use some of game four for gameplanning. With the injury, I think it could go either way. I really like what I have seen from Josh, but make no mistake those have been mostly bland defenses even with the extra pressure. I think he is the better prospect, but I am not sure he is ready. I voted Peterman because I think the injury changes McDermott’s mind and he decides to start the slightly more experienced player in week one and now uses game 3 to see if he can handle a somewhat gameplanned start. I also think maybe he tries to give Allen a bit more time than normal with some of that time in the second quarter with the ones. It is interesting, but I just don’t know what they have thrown at Allen and how ready he is to recognize and change based on blitz and coverage packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: I think they’re saying to let Allen get his feet under him before subjecting him to a guaranteed beat down at the hands of BAL, LAC or MIN. Those arguing that feel that Allen would be more likely to get injured in those games. I don’t agree, but I think that is their argument. The mobile, 6'5" guy built like a LB is more likely to be hurt than Peterman? Umm, right. This argument is a big fail. 7 hours ago, GoodHands15 said: The only reasoning that makes even half way decent arguement I’ve even seen is. “Opponent-specific game preparation as a starting NFL quarterback.” Do I think it makes a little sense to have someone watch that. Sure. If it’s behind a proven winning QB. I would assume the law of large numbers says that injuries to NFL quarterbacks show no trends as far as where in the season, career, or defense specific. It’s just a probability thing that trends even over time. Look at Wentz. He’s an NFL QB behind a great line. He got hurt. No different than a car accident. Good drivers get in car accidents all the time. You cannot hold back talent for fear of losing talent. Especially when 1st team reps are such an importance at the position. Ding ding ding. What has Peterman done to suggest he's in a better position to beat a good defense? I think McD's latest comments are a complete smoke screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 hours ago, wppete said: It’s Josh Allen’s job just depends when he takes over. Maybe Peterman starts the first 4 games on the tough schedule. After that give the keys to Josh Allen and let him take over. this is what i hope happens...win lose or draw, i hope he gets a few games on the sideline to take it all in, do the mental reps and study film. get the feeling of regular season game tempo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Yogi Berra said it about baseball but it's true of football too. "80% of the game is 1/2 mental". And QB is a more thinking and fast decision making position than catcher. This is where I think he could benefit learning how to read pro defenses and disguised coverages etc. Set him up to succeed when he gets in by knowing this stuff already. i voted Nasty Nate. i think not starting Allen was the process. iF AJ is indeed out i suppose it could change. i don't think it necessarily means who starts vs Ravens. Hard to read the defense from the bench. Unless this kid truly is a project, he should start, just as the majority of highly drafted QBs before him have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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