CommonCents Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: It's a well known fact that fighting for Jesus is rough on the knees. Hopefully he finds another off-season hobby. Perhaps bocce ball or something. Would you consider your recently hurt wrist an "ongoing thing?" Bocce on Saturday. Let’s gooooooo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lurker said: The timing does seem odd... I'm sure when pressed, he will say something along the lines of "At the end of the season, Zay had some minor knee pain that we thought would get better with rest, now here it is almost June, and it's not getting better, so he has to have surgery blah blah blah blah..." It's all part of that stupid process everyone keeps talking about. LOL Edited May 24, 2018 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: I watched him play last season, and then I watched him attack an unarmed hotel hallway. That's what I'm basing it on. Sure, the video showed the hallway was unarmed but in the heat of the moment and the fog of mind altering substances its not so easy to tell which is why I think these guys should all be wearing body cams all the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: like you said, knock yourself out trading up for qbs. But it makes little sense for other positions. Waste of capital. I tend to agree. Even going up for Edmunds may have been a mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Tough crowd here....yeah glue factory for sure. SMFH..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 This will jeopardize his playing time at the start of the season. We have two new QB's and the only QB he might be slightly familiar with is Peterman and he will probably be 3rd string. I really wish we would've drafted Juju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Every team misses occasionally, even the best teams in the league.....but to blame the pick on Whaley is a joke. Its been all McDermott since he was hired. And I’ll trust him on defensive players, especially d backs. But it’s hard to blindly trust them with the offense. It’s hasnt been great. also, wasn’t a big reason we picked Zay was because we hired his former college coach? zay seems like a good dude and I’m rooting for him. But this is starting to have a Hardy type vibe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffAlone said: I didn't realize he had a knee issue. Do we know the severity of the injury or the magnitude of the surgery? He hurt it while running around naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 47 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said: If I am not mistaken...Whaley was the GM during the Zay draft. McDermott drafted Tre, Dawkins and Milano but Whaley drafted Zay... I think McD must have left the war room for a toilet break early in the 2nd round and when he came back he was like.. “Doug, I leave you alone for 5 minutes..” 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: By page 4 it'll turn into the Monty Python "Argument" sketch. No, it won't. Oh, drat! It still is page 4. Edited May 24, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Spun another way, we’re looking forward to Zey NOT dropping passes this Spring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 hopefully jut a clean up thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: Honestly I am not superstitious but he wears jersey number 11... Where does that reference come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Zay Jones career w/ the Bills: Bills trade the 44th and 91st picks to select Zay Jones at #37 & also get back pick #149. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's Zay has a terrible case of the drops all season and all but admits his confidence is struggling Zay has an offseason shoulder surgery Zay's arrested in a scary, bizarre incident at an LA hotel Zay has an unspecified knee surgery About as poor a start as any Bills fan could've imagined. Too bad too, because the next 2 WR's that went off the board look so much better than Zay right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Estro said: Zay Jones career w/ the Bills: Bills trade the 44th and 91st picks to select Zay Jones at #37 & also get back pick #149. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's Zay has a terrible case of the drops all season and all but admits his confidence is struggling Zay has an offseason shoulder surgery Zay's arrested in a scary, bizarre incident at an LA hotel Zay has an unspecified knee surgery About as poor a start as any Bills fan could've imagined. Too bad too, because the next 2 WR's that went off the board look so much better than Zay right now. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 If it is an ongoing problem it probably goes back to when he hyper-extended his knee last year. Doesn't worry me at this point. 4 minutes ago, Estro said: Zay Jones career w/ the Bills: Bills trade the 44th and 91st picks to select Zay Jones at #37 & also get back pick #149. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's Zay has a terrible case of the drops all season and all but admits his confidence is struggling Zay has an offseason shoulder surgery Zay's arrested in a scary, bizarre incident at an LA hotel Zay has an unspecified knee surgery About as poor a start as any Bills fan could've imagined. Too bad too, because the next 2 WR's that went off the board look so much better than Zay right now. A WR needs a QB to be successful. How many of our WRs were stellar with Tyrod at QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Dude can't even catch a break. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Gugny said: It's a well known fact that fighting for Jesus is rough on the knees. Hopefully he finds another off-season hobby. Perhaps bocce ball or something. Would you consider your recently hurt wrist an "ongoing thing?" Repetitive motion injury. Zay should have gotten surgery on his brain. Dude is mentally whacked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 29 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: hopefully jut a clean up thing. It's probably a cleanup thing but not to his knee. His head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBillsBacker Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: Honestly I am not superstitious but he wears jersey number 11... Not even just a little stitious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 59 minutes ago, Estro said: Zay Jones career w/ the Bills: Bills trade the 44th and 91st picks to select Zay Jones at #37 & also get back pick #149. The next 2 WR's selected were JuJu Smith-Schuster and Cooper Kupp at #62 & #69, respectively. Zay Jones (2017): 27 rec. for 317 yds & 2 TD's Juju Smith-Schuster (2017): 58 rec. for 917 yds & 7 TD's Cooper Kupp (2017): 62 rec. for 869 yds. & 5 TD's Zay has a terrible case of the drops all season and all but admits his confidence is struggling Zay has an offseason shoulder surgery Zay's arrested in a scary, bizarre incident at an LA hotel Zay has an unspecified knee surgery About as poor a start as any Bills fan could've imagined. Too bad too, because the next 2 WR's that went off the board look so much better than Zay right now. It's not unspecified, he hurt it when his brother tackled him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I think it is way too early to give up on the kid like many on here are doing. Rookie WRs have not done well in recent years as it takes them awhile to learn the game. Jones has good speed and size. The Bills need him to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I honestly didn't have any expectations for Zay myself. Looked at him more like a long shot. You know with the whole freak out thing. Edited May 24, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: next man up your witness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Chris Brown said, "Better now than later." My question: "Why not January or February instead of now?" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Shaw66 said: I'm higher on Jones than a lot of folks here. Lots of rookie receivers struggle, so I don't think that what we saw in 2017 is necessarily what we're going to see in 2018 and going forward. He showed several good things last year, and I get the sense that he's really committed to getting the job done, that he's the kind of guy McD likes. The drops were horrible, but both in college and some his later games last season, he's shown he can catch the ball. I'm with you. This games moves much faster than college, and he needs it to slow down a little bit, and that comes with time. I'm not saying he's going to be a HOF'er. I'm just saying it's completely premature to write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Chris Brown said, "Better now than later." My question: "Why not January or February instead of now?" +1. In the absence of Jones making his full medical profile public, we should certainly assume the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Knee surgery? What he needed was a new set of hands! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Knee surgery? What he needed was a new set of hands! ? Can you do that??? Isn’t that called the stranger? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Can you do that??? Isn’t that called the stranger? ? On Seinfeld, Kramer always wanted shoehorn hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I call BS on this. I would not be surprised if their psychs and PR departments are doing a bit of damage control and using this as a way to buy time and try and get him mentally back where he needs to be. The timing is odd, and I know things like this do happen behind closed doors. I am not at all saying this is for sure, but I smell a rat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Irv said: I think he's going to be ready for the season. Instead of “deflate gate”, we may get caught up in “magnet gate”. Either way, he should be able to beat press coverage! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 but, but what about his on going season shoulder thing? The shoulder that made him drop the Carolina game winning TD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, KD in CA said: The Bills seem to do this frequently (moving up a handful of slots) and I'm not a fan of the tactic. I don't mean moving up from 21 to 7 to get your QB of the future.....that's different. It's locking into one guy in the 2d/3d round and giving up valuable assets when a guy might have been there anyway, but if not it's hardly a franchise changing event, and there are plenty of other needs/guys you could draft anyway. Maybe it hasn't been that often, but you think about Ragland, Graham, Jones and those were wastes of extra picks. Trading up is something both Whaley and then McD/Beane have done multiple times. In 2 drafts, Beane and/or Coach McD have moved up 4 times, 3 to draft a non-QB. I've criticized Whaley for the reach up to get Watkins as a bad use of draft resources. Yet, BB/McD have moved up those three times to draft Edmunds for a third to move from 22 to 16, and last year with JOnes (another 3rd) to move from 44 to 37) and then to take Dawkins at 63 (75th and 2 5th round picks). We're going to see how it turns out, but early returns for Jones aren't good. And I'm not talking about what was clearly a mental health issue earlier this off-season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 For the sake of pete, he’s just missing time now - nothing about missing preseason or regular season. A lot of typical overreaction on this thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Success said: For the sake of pete, he’s just missing time now - nothing about missing preseason or regular season. A lot of typical overreaction on this thread. Exactly. He’s given fans nothing to worry about so far in his career. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Wasn't it the knee that was injured on that play in the Jets game, where he'd beaten his man going deep and the defender tripped him to prevent a big gain? He was never right after that game. Why wouldn’t they have ID’d that and set up the surgery right after the season then? Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Irv said: Dude is mentally whacked out. Looking at recent team events, remember it's actually a sliding scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Augie said: Instead of “deflate gate”, we may get caught up in “magnet gate”. Those are anvils, not magnets. I think the implication is that he has "heavy hands" and can't catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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