hondo in seattle Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yes, doing very well. How many are producing at a Diggs level. Even the kind of level Diggs was at in a bad year? How many have Josh Allen throwing to them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 My 18 year old daughter remains inconsolable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 My take on this is it was unexpected by me this year. I'm also happy in some ways cause I said at the beginning of the offseason that Beane should rip the ban aid off and rebuild for Allen's back 9 I now view Beane looking to swap 1st rd picks in 2024, and add a 2025 1st and 2nd rd pick plus some change to make a huge move up in this draft to grab a top WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Does NE get a comp pick now? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, CaliBills said: I agree as well but with a caviot. There is only 1 ball that can go around so if it wasn't them getting schemed open or thrown to, it will be Kincaid/Shakir/Samuel now and who ever we trade for or draft. The reason I see this and Davis being on another team, is at crucial times in games and in the playoffs, drops were happening more than they should. Solid point on davis. They could have kept him if they wanted. That money was workable. But they simply decided that stuff like the Denver drop wasn’t worth the cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 This fella was not on the field for most 3rd Downs. I see that Josh's Bills V2 will draft from a later slot and have less Cap Money to play with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 At this juncture? D. we shall see if it improves or whether #17 is looking for a Trade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's either McD has failed or Mahomes is unreal in the playoffs. Other D's in the playoffs have fared better against him than McD's has. We've gotten all-time performances from Josh and have nothing to show for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSanta Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Process said: Where there is smoke there is fire. People have been dismissing Diggs comments but it's clear he wanted out. The guy is a diva, and a clown. Him and his brother publicly going after Allen. Loser. See ya. It was pretty obvious to me when he was dropping balls and taking himself out on key 3rd downs during the second half of last season that he quit on the team and wanted out. His body language said it all. I was ridiculed by other people in this group. Time for Beane to go get a wr1 in the draft. I believe he will 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 17 minutes ago, Gregg said: At this point bring in Jerry Butler and Frank Lewis I loved Frank Lewis! We fleeced Pittsburgh on that trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Closer to the end… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Not a bad trade value wise. What makes this a C for me is the dead cap it blows. Would have been better to try to trade next year but whatever. So the Bills don't have a 3rd and what a 6th rounder this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Reposting this because it's going to get lost in the thread: The Bills kept the issues under wraps for the most part. But anyone who knew someone close to the team was aware of his constant distractions, both in public and behind the scenes. Honestly... You could could literally feel it. Though I will be the 1st to admit I ignored that feeling and hoped for the best every day... But it was there. And it was tangible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, Magox said: You should change your moniker to IamFOLDINGwithALLEN whatever buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 How is it not an F? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 35 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I'm not happy with this move either but honestly I can't believe Beane would just make this move without something up his sleeve as I can't imagine his plan is to go into this season with what have now. Granted I'm not a fan of trading up to get a better WR prospect as no guarantee a rookie going to step in as a WR1 no matter who he is. It used to take about 3 years for WRs to come into their own. I don't think that's true any more for the WRs rated at the top of the class -- or for some later draft picks who have talent and are willing to work really hard to improve their skills like Nacua. I think coaching at the top collegiate programs has really improved, and there are also lots of camps or "schools" for WRs to learn fundamentals. I also think that many collegiate football players who are aiming for potential NFL careers prepare for that as seriously as other college students who want to become doctors or scientists or musicians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If you take Diggs away, JA17 still led the league in TD's last year. This years draft just got a whole lot more interesting imho. 🤞 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Gave it a B A '24 RD2 would've been an A, but having two RD2 picks likely allows us the freedom to package our RD1 pick next year in a deal this year.. should we choose to do so. I don't think he had a ton of leverage. Not much of a market for a 31 year old 18M WR coming off a meh end of season with questions about whether he's still a true WR1 or not. In fact, the only leverage he probably had was... ok, well, we'll just keep him this year then. Getting a 2, even if next year, is a solid deal. Edited April 3 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’m actually fine with this. I wish it would’ve been a 2nd rounder this year with such a great WR class but as long as we get multiple WRs in this class we will be fine. Josh won’t feel like he needs to force the ball to Diggs anymore and I think long term this was the right move. Hope we hit on the right WRs in this class though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) In order for us to trade up in the top 10 to grab a WR. We would have to likely give up next year 1st and with the way the Bills roster is currently constructed with question marks all around. That something we can’t afford to do. Edited April 3 by BillMafia716ix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Cover 1 guys having meltdowns on Twitter is pretty amusing. All of their "NO HE CANNOT BE TRADED" "WE DON'T HAVE ANY $" I got blocked by them for correcting them a few months ago. I kept laying out ways for diggs to be moved and they just kept saying I didn’t know what I was talking about before blocking me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah. So in other words, cap space. It was wildly obvious one of the main goals they had this year was to get future cap space back into reasonable shape, so we didn't have to go through another year like this one where we start out so far underwater. That goal just took a huge hit. It took the opposite of a huge hit. They need to have their big money contracts in their mid 20’s. I don’t think they will trade for a WR1, but I wouldn’t be surprised. It definitely can happen. Will it? Probably depends on the draft plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSanta Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Diggs tanked his value as a parting gift to us lol. Dude was garbage for months They should have traded him to Carolina to spite his sorry ass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 He was worth what he was worth and I trust that Beane turned over every rock he could during the process. Having to give up picks is what irks me but this is classic addition by subtraction, albeit one season too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) Diggs is OFF THE BOOKS after this season. We pay an additional 3.2 million over his current cap hit. Makes a trade for another WR possible with future cap space of 20+ million now available Edited April 3 by Warriorspikes51 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 In the long run, this team will be better off for trading Diggs now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 16 minutes ago, Toomstone.Part.Duex said: https://x.com/KyleBrandt/status/1775551549428679026?s=20 Spot freaking on! 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Cover 1 guys having meltdowns on Twitter is pretty amusing. All of their "NO HE CANNOT BE TRADED" "WE DON'T HAVE ANY $" They weren't wrong in the pure football discussion of it, it made little sense to move on. BUT if you factor in the seemingly undeniable off the field / "diva" complaints, then it makes sense. Edited April 3 by Bruffalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I don’t hate the move, he wasn’t a stand out #1 second half of the season, drops started to become more regular. Maybe Josh has too much stress from dealing with him if there is a riff. We always get hung up on the last success of guys here. We held on to Poyer and Hyde 1 year too long, it’s time to get younger draft our top WR and get reps with the young guys look at how many good WR came out in the past 1-3 years. They are on cheap contracts which is what we need as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSanta Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Gman10 said: I remember I mentioned the idea of Diggs being traded and ya'll brought out your pitchforks. Here we are Me too man me too. People cant handle the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo4Life01 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 this makes me want to celebrate with a stiff gin and tonic followed by a quick round of pocket pool before a cold shower!! GO BILLS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The move to get rid of Diggs, eliminate distractions, take our cap medicine this year, get younger and cheaper, and add a big pile of 2025 cap space? A+ The trade ITSELF? Diggs and two late picks for a 2nd? Hmmm...Probably a C . I say that because while a 2nd round pick doesn't look great on the surface, when you consider Digg's contract and age, and the fact that a guy like L'Jarius Sneed only fetched a 3rd, it's actually not a bad return. The compensation received is mitigated, however, by the enormous dead cap hit. So averaging together the move and all of its implications, the compensation received, and the dead cap hit, I can't give the whole thing better than a C grade, even though I feel like the overall impact may wind up being an A+ in the long run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thenorthremembers Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, ALLinALLEN said: Never gonna win it all..... They didnt win it all with him. So you're saying its a push? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomur67 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Beane would not have traded Diggs without a plan already worked out that would get the Bills a WR1, whoever that is, is the question. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I saw another discussion where they said who tf cares about dead cap this year, because there's no one left to sign. Better to clear the books now and have an extra 25m next year to play with, after we draft one of the stud WR's this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 What’s going to happen when the bill select an edge at 28? 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Diggs is OFF THE BOOKS after this season. We pay an additional 3.2 million over hit current cap hit. Makes a trade for another WR possible with future cap space of 20+ million now available Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I don't mind Diggs going - it struck me he had rapidly become a problem in the locker room rather than someone who could be relied upon. But only a 2nd round pick in 2025 for him. A very poor return which does suggest a level of desperation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, babulator said: If you take Diggs away, JA17 still led the league in TD's last year. This years draft just got a whole lot more interesting imho. 🤞 But many of those TDs to others were possible in part because Diggs drew the top cover guys to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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