TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 12 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: Rapp feels like Jamal Adams light to me. In the box "big hitter" can't cover like whiffner He can absolutely cover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Very good player. Much better than the washed up Sébastien Joseph Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Bringing in a guy hurt 2 years Ina row, including a torn Achilles. Right... The thing is, he apparently had a career year last season....AFTER recovering from the torn Achilles. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, BigAl2526 said: I don't think the Bills were ever going to pay top dollar for one of the top names at safety in free agency. Not paying top dollar means taking a chance on some aspect of a candidate. With Blackmon it's a health question. With someone else it might be measurables, age, past productivity or whatever. That's what Buffalo did when they acquired Poyer and Hyde and it worked out OK. I'm fine with it. From the perspective of market economics, 9 of the top 11 safeties on PFT's Top Free Agent List are now signed. Antoine Winfield 7 Kamren Curl 22 Kyle Dugger 31 Xavier McKinney 37 Geno Stone 48 Jordan Fuller 59 DeShon Elliott 62 Jordan Whitehead 95 CJ Gardner-Johnson 104, The last two remaining unsigned are Justin Simmons 47, and Julian Blackmon 72. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: From the perspective of market economics, 9 of the top 11 safeties on PFT's Top Free Agent List are now signed. Antoine Winfield 7 Kamren Curl 22 Kyle Dugger 31 Xavier McKinney 37 Geno Stone 48 Jordan Fuller 59 DeShon Elliott 62 Jordan Whitehead 95 CJ Gardner-Johnson 104, The last two remaining unsigned are Justin Simmons 47, and Julian Blackmon 72. 6. S JULIAN BLACKMON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS 2024 Free agency rank: 66 Blackmon started for two seasons in college at cornerback, and he has logged more than 350 slot snaps since 2022. In Gus Bradley’s Cover 3-heavy scheme, Blackmon spent plenty of time as a single-high safety. Almost half of his snaps were down in the box in 2023. Blackmon appears to be a better fit near the line of scrimmage due to his average recovery speed, but his plus lateral movement and solid ball skills from his days spent as a cornerback show up more often when closer to the line of scrimmage. Blackmon’s 30 defensive stops in 2023 were more than his career total before this season, and he missed a career-low 7.4% of tackle opportunities. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-nfl-free-agency-rankings-safeties 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: 6. S JULIAN BLACKMON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS 2024 Free agency rank: 66 Blackmon started for two seasons in college at cornerback, and he has logged more than 350 slot snaps since 2022. In Gus Bradley’s Cover 3-heavy scheme, Blackmon spent plenty of time as a single-high safety. Almost half of his snaps were down in the box in 2023. Blackmon appears to be a better fit near the line of scrimmage due to his average recovery speed, but his plus lateral movement and solid ball skills from his days spent as a cornerback show up more often when closer to the line of scrimmage. Blackmon’s 30 defensive stops in 2023 were more than his career total before this season, and he missed a career-low 7.4% of tackle opportunities. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-nfl-free-agency-rankings-safeties Hmm, interesting. I'd think Rapp was the replacement for Poyer, and we needed a sure-handed ball hawk to replace Hyde. Blackmon sounds like another Poyer/Rapp or even Taron Johnson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Hmm, interesting. I'd think Rapp was the replacement for Poyer, and we needed a sure-handed ball hawk to replace Hyde. Blackmon sounds like another Poyer/Rapp or even Taron Johnson. I like both the new safeties (hopefully). But we are definitely taking a step back in the safety position. Or it would appear at this point. We shall see if McD still has the magic touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 12 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Hmm, interesting. I'd think Rapp was the replacement for Poyer, and we needed a sure-handed ball hawk to replace Hyde. Blackmon sounds like another Poyer/Rapp or even Taron Johnson. The Bills like interchangeable Safeties to help disguise coverage. Yet if we're replacing Hyde I'd say we need more of a Center field type and different reports say different thin gson Blackmon. As some think with his CB background he better deep but PFF says he's better closer to the line of scrimmage. Edited March 19 by The Jokeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Blackmon is the ideal type of player to sign in free agency. Should be mid range cost but he is still young and ascending. This would be an excellent move if it came to fruition. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Sounds like a good fit. He has to realize his injury past plays into this. He also has to realize he has a great opportunity to play on a SB contender & play a maximum amount of prime time games. Two year mutually friendly deal makes sense 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: One of the younger FS with starting experience Breakout 2023 60.9% completions (fantastic) 4.3% missed tackles (fantastic) Great athlete. This is basically poyer 8 years ago 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I was just having a dream and I was in a hallway and all I could hear was "don't let him leave the building" on the loud speakers. Take that for what it's worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) Edited March 19 by Aussie Joe 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Is it bad that I think less of that metric after this tweet 😅 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So what sort of money would get it done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: The thing is, he apparently had a career year last season....AFTER recovering from the torn Achilles. LOL...do you know what career year means? It's the peak or sometimes referred to as the anomaly year in a person's career. So by saying he had a career year last season, it implies that he won't reach that level of performable again. Or that his 4 INT season was an anomaly and he will regress to his prior level of play of 0,1,and 2 interceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I’ve met him a few times, he’s not only an extraordinarily good person, he’s a dynamic player. I think this would be an amazing signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Aaronthebaron said: I’ve met him a few times, he’s not only an extraordinarily good person, he’s a dynamic player. I think this would be an amazing signing. Please do elaborate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 hours ago, Turbo44 said: Yep - this appears to be a no brainer signing if not cost prohibitive. His analytics for coverage skills and tackling are elite. If he’s $5m year you could structure it so it’s 2024 cap friendly: 5 years $20m, $10m singing bonus with salaries of $1.5m for each of the first 3 years and $5.5m in year 4. This way the cap hit would be $4m for first 3 years and $8m in year 4 (dead cap of $2.5m if you cut him before year 4). No brainer No way you're getting him for that money. I'd expect something like 4 yrs, 26mil, with 14 gtd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, Turbo44 said: Please do elaborate He lived in my neighborhood in Utah. He’s such a genuine guy, and unbelievably kind. Not exaggerating, I think he’s an awesome individual. I was crushed when we didn’t draft him. Football-wise, he has amazing instincts, and seems to play incredibly fast because of them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I have to admit I thought this said Justin Blackmon at first and was like “Beane’s really digging deep for WR help” lol. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, SydneyBillsFan said: No way you're getting him for that money. I'd expect something like 4 yrs, 26mil, with 14 gtd. Not sure who is left looking for a Safety still … the Bills might not be competing with too many other teams as a number have been signed already .. I would offer him 2 years … $10-12m …with no guaranteed money into the second year …so you can move on if need be…although hopefully he works out .. Would be a great result for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Not sure who is left looking for a Safety still … the Bills might not be competing with too many other teams as a number have been signed already .. I would offer him 2 years … $10-12m …with no guaranteed money into the second year …so you can move on if need be…although hopefully he works out .. Would be a great result for us At the top end are Justin Simmons and Jamal Adams, so there is absolutely still a top end of the market. That said, while Simmons and Adams have the better resume (All Pro and Pro Bowls), Simmons is 30 and Adams has an even worse injury history than Blackmon. Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age when he first came to Buffalo. Getting him cheap could the the start of another run. Edited March 19 by WhitewalkerInPhilly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: At the top end are Justin Simmons and Jamal Adams, so there is absolutely still a top end of the market. That said, while Simmons and Adams have the better resume (All Pro and Pro Bowls), Simmons is 30 and Adams has an even worse injury history than Blackmon. Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age. Getting him cheap could the the start of another run. Adams is 🗑️. He cannot play CF and that’s what the Bills need. Simmons is my first choice but Blackmon would be a nice consolation prize. 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 17 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: To be fair, I’d be excited about a new kicker. Setting the bar high I see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Getting safety resolved before the draft would be nice. Having no third round pick is a killer. My understanding from a few people I have read/listened to is this draft lacks underclassmen and is not deep so all those late picks the bills have do not hold the value they normally would. I bet a lot of teams will trade away and move back dumping 5th 6th and 7th rounders for picks next year. The bills only have two impactful picks at the moment so having four key weaknesses is a problem. Solving the safety issue would be huge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: At the top end are Justin Simmons and Jamal Adams, so there is absolutely still a top end of the market. That said, while Simmons and Adams have the better resume (All Pro and Pro Bowls), Simmons is 30 and Adams has an even worse injury history than Blackmon. Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age. Getting him cheap could the the start of another run. Jamal Adams is bottom of the barrel, not top of the market. And he’d be an awful choice for us playing next to Rapp 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: Jamal Adams is bottom of the barrel, not top of the market. And he’d be an awful choice for us playing next to Rapp But he runs his mouth a lot so he is almost as awesome as Jalen Ramsey. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Is anybody tracking the Pegula jet? or is the new cash-to-cap making these guys take a Greyhound bus? I kid, I kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Was he in town yesterday or coming today, tomorrow? What is the deal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Ready for watever. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 7 hours ago, jlgarsh said: I have to admit I thought this said Justin Blackmon at first and was like “Beane’s really digging deep for WR help” lol. That kid should have been an absolute stud, but he was an alcoholic. Really sad story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: At the top end are Justin Simmons and Jamal Adams, so there is absolutely still a top end of the market. That said, while Simmons and Adams have the better resume (All Pro and Pro Bowls), Simmons is 30 and Adams has an even worse injury history than Blackmon. Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age. Getting him cheap could the the start of another run. Not following this. "Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age"....Poyer is 32, almost 33. Did you mean Poyer's age when he came to Buffalo, 26? I think Blackmon would be a very good add. Edited March 19 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Did we let him leave the building? Any eyes on local restaurants? Airports? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Did we let him leave the building? Any eyes on local restaurants? Airports? Obviously saw him at Duffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 14 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Not following this. "Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age"....Poyer is 32, almost 33. Did you mean Poyer's age when he came to Buffalo, 26? I think Blackmon would be a very good add. When we first signed Poyer! Thanks for pointing that out, I'll fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 36 minutes ago, Gregg said: Was he in town yesterday or coming today, tomorrow? What is the deal here. Did they let him leave the building??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Jamal Adams is bottom of the barrel, not top of the market. And he’d be an awful choice for us playing next to Rapp He was never good. One of the most overrated players in recent memory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, buffblue said: He was never good. One of the most overrated players in recent memory He was great in college. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCNC Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 27 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Not following this. "Blackmon is 25, which makes him about Poyer's age"....Poyer is 32, almost 33. Did you mean Poyer's age when he came to Buffalo, 26? I think Blackmon would be a very good add. Joe Marino said he had a torn Achilles in his past which gives me a little pause... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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