DrDawkinstein Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: Cousins looks a lot better on paper than he does on the field, plus he's coming back from a major injury that some players never are the same after. He can toss the ball around. Would be the best QB theyve had in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Ok sean calm down now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 My opinion on Tomlin has changed since around 2019 as the AB - Bell - Ben window shut. He’s a great coach. One of the best in the league. I’d run thru a wall for him no doubt. I think he’s always had great defenses and that team always plays hard. I told the board this was not going to be easy today. We actually made it a little harder then we needed to but give them credit doing what they’ve done with Mason Rudolph. And special shout out reminder the Steelers started this NFL year by screwing the Jets at the draft in trading with New England in order to get the OT the Jets absolutely wanted. Jones looks like a stud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 53 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: This really isn't the take missing the best player on his team and his QB Who Exactly is his QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, John from Riverside said: Who Exactly is his QB Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 49 minutes ago, Success said: Tomlin deserves credit, imo. This team, with a 3rd string QB, really had no business even getting near the playoffs. And they kept it pretty tight today after going down by 3 TD's, without their best player. I agree that Tomlin deserves credit. No way this team makes the playoffs without him. That being said, I disagree with calling Rudolph a 3rd string QB. They had all 3 of their QB’s available and healthy, and chose Rudolph as the starter. He was no longer a “backup”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 48 minutes ago, Success said: Tomlin deserves credit, imo. This team, with a 3rd string QB, really had no business even getting near the playoffs. And they kept it pretty tight today after going down by 3 TD's, without their best player. They were 9-2 in one score games. Most teams are around .500. Don’t be shocked if next year they drop back to 6-7 win season. Both CLEVELAND and Houston gained a couple games by having edges in one score games. Cleveland did theirs with probably worse QB situation than Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Who Exactly is his QB Mason Canada Davenport the First Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 McD and Tomlin are very similar, and i think their respective fan bases have many of the same complaints about each of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I agree that Tomlin deserves credit. No way this team makes the playoffs without him. That being said, I disagree with calling Rudolph a 3rd string QB. They had all 3 of their QB’s available and healthy, and chose Rudolph as the starter. He was no longer a “backup”. meh. peterman wasn’t magically a starter just because he took the first snap. sure, in a literal sense but not the meaningful nomenclature of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 31 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: 9-7 and a playoff birth or one win better than Rex Ryan, however you want to frame it They still got a franchise QB after it. The idea they have to win 4 games to get a good QB is nonsense. 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Exactly The guy he drafted in the third round 4 years ago and decided to start over the guy he drafted in the first round last year is his QB, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Man oh man, this guy is just so elite. He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself. All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach. SUPER SERIOUS EDIT: I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Man oh man, this guy is just so elite. He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself. All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach. SUPER SERIOUS EDIT: I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy. Tomlin seems like a pretty straight forward and classy guy. I guess some people enjoy criticizing others to get their points across. I guess that's not neither here or there. I mean it's pretty absurd to imply that Tomlin is less than a very good coach. I'm not here to defend him but your slander seems pretty ridiculous. It's widely accepted that Tomlin is a very good coach. But hey, you do you. I've really not heard many football fans including Bills fans say McD is a poor coach. The primary criticism is McD has been unable to get this team under an elite franchise QB to the SB. Not bringing a Lombardi to Buffalo. Truthfully, that's the criticism valid or not it's likely to continue until McD achieves this feat. FTR, both McCarthy and Tomlin with their elite franchise QB have brought home a Lombardi Trophy. That's not an insignificant fact. 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Mason Rudolph is his QB. It was another elite playoff loss. He’s dominating that category. The team wasn't even expected to sniff the playoffs this year. Tomlin's biggest mistake was drafting Pickett. I can get behind that criticism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Tomlin seems like a pretty straight forward and classy guy. I guess some people enjoy criticizing others to get their points across. I guess that's not neither here or there. I mean it's pretty absurd to imply that Tomlin is less than a very good coach. I'm not here to defend him but your slander seems pretty ridiculous. It's widely accepted that Tomlin is a very good coach. But hey, you do you. I've really not heard many football fans including Bills fans say McD is a poor coach. The primary criticism is McD has been unable to get this team under an elite franchise QB to the SB. Not bringing a Lombardi to Buffalo. Truthfully, that's the criticism valid or not it's likely to continue until McD achieves this feat. FTR, both McCarthy and Tomlin with their elite franchise QB have brought home a Lombardi Trophy. That's not an insignificant fact. The team wasn't even expected to sniff the playoffs this year. Tomlin's biggest mistake was drafting Pickett. I can get behind that criticism. I’ve heard lots of folks say that Tomlin is a far superior coach to McD. Ditto with McDaniel. And Harbaugh. And Sirianni. And all of them are on the couch so far except for Harbaugh. Oh well! They’ll always have those fans’ hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: My man, he has made it as far as McD has since 2016 and he doesn't have Josh Allen. Please don't compare aging Ben to Josh. McD has one divisional win in his career. Tomlin has 2 AFC championships, 3 division wins, and a Super Bowl. A little reality check here.👍 1 hour ago, FireChans said: ? He hasn’t won a playoff game since 2016. McD has how many playoff wins? It’s very cool that he won a Super Bowl when a plucky Senator from Chicago ran for President, but Mason Rudolph was still using coloring books at home at that time. Does nothing for the guys currently. Your denial is deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, Malazan said: Their GM should be the one that's questioned, not Tomlin. Very much this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Tomlin to the Eagles would be interesting They would have to trade or do the amicable split thing. Or Tomlin could coach out his deal next season and be a free agent and have his pick of spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 41 minutes ago, Man with No Name said: McD and Tomlin are very similar, and i think their respective fan bases have many of the same complaints about each of them. The biggest difference is Tomlin has the ring. If McD gets a ring he will be looked at much differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, FireChans said: I’ve heard lots of folks say that Tomlin is a far superior coach to McD. Ditto with McDaniel. And Harbaugh. And Sirianni. And all of them are on the couch so far except for Harbaugh. Oh well! They’ll always have those fans’ hearts. That's fair. There will always be debated about who is a better coach. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses. For me, an elite coach has to lead his team to a championship. Until then, a coach will always be scrutinized about that failure or lack of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Sirianni sure seemed to have it together last year. what's the deal with these PHilly coaches who are great one year, and a lump of coal the next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Man with No Name said: Sirianni sure seemed to have it together last year. what's the deal with these PHilly coaches who are great one year, and a lump of coal the next? And there are people who will seriously debate Tomlins excellence. Never had a losing season. Ever. Had people like Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges finish out seasons multiple times, still no losing seasons. Dude is a leader of men, period. His record is better than Cowher's and ppl have been trying to fire him since basically day one while Cowher is a God figure. 3 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: This really isn't the take missing the best player on his team and his QB It’s totally the take And rightly done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: And there are people who will seriously debate Tomlins excellence. Never had a losing season. Ever. Had people like Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges finish out seasons multiple times, still no losing seasons. Dude is a leader of men, period. His record is better than Cowher's and ppl have been trying to fire him since basically day one while Cowher is a God figure. Hopefully there is a local bowling league where he can be a leader of men since the football thing isn’t panning out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Mikie2times said: 9-7 and a playoff birth or one win better than Rex Ryan, however you want to frame it I mean Rex Ryan’s team was basically all in and they blew that team up including doing something most fans hated at the time getting rid of Dareus. Most people thought they were tanking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: For a team that carries a reputation for being about toughness and discipline they've had a weird number of examples of players lollygagging this season, most recently Minkah on Josh's long rushing TD today. Minkah was the star of the Shakir TD too Edited January 16 by Starr Almighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: This really isn't the take missing the best player on his team and his QB Was he missing his qb? Pickett was healthy and benched. Rudolph won the job by outperforming those guys. The revisionist history on that is crazy like Rudolph was getting talked up like crazy because he was on a heater now he lost and he’s a third stringer again? also, they were missing a great lb? We were missing Milano…and Bernard…and Dodson…and Spector. Freakin aj Klein was communicating the plays haha oh they lost a corner late in the game you say? We didn’t have tre white…or Douglas…or benford…or Johnson. Their best qb couldn’t move the ball on a preseason week 1 defense so I don’t think op is terribly off base Edited January 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: Meh. We have perhaps the best player in the nfl at perhaps the most important position in all of sports. Tomlin blew the end of the first half, but his team did a lot for having such a large talent deficit even before taking their best player in watt away They beat the Ravens twice.........including once with the Lamar in and their starters healthy. I'm not certain the result would have been much different if Lamar had played the second time. That was a slug fest. I could be wrong but my guess would be that the last time a #1 seed was swept by a division foe was 1999 when the Titans beat the Jags twice but the Jags rode their weak schedule to the #1 seed. Tennessee(unsurprisingly) beat them a third time in the playoffs. But that Jags team was clearly a paper tiger.........that Bills/Titans WC game was seen(rightfully) by some as likely to decide the AFC champion because those were the two best teams going into the playoffs. This situation is different. The Ravens were legitimately worthy of the #1 seed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: And there are people who will seriously debate Tomlins excellence. Never had a losing season. Ever. Had people like Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges finish out seasons multiple times, still no losing seasons. Dude is a leader of men, period. His record is better than Cowher's and ppl have been trying to fire him since basically day one while Cowher is a God figure. I like how mason rudolph is a bum again after one loss lol…dude was playing great. Eventually winning seasons without any playoff success is gonna catch up to you and the side of the ball you don’t specialize in underperforming reflects badly enough on you as a coach. Op was over the top but the reason everyone has wanted mcd gone should apply to Tomlin and then some. not to mention if they didn’t get no burrow bengals x2 and the ravens backups I think they win 8 games max this year. Idk how much of this season was great coaching on his part 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Man oh man, this guy is just so elite. He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself. All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach. SUPER SERIOUS EDIT: I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy. You are being ironic, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 You do know he started his 3rd string QB tonight, right? You also know that he was playing without their Team's MVP, right? I'm really grateful we didn't have to play against a healthy Watt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: You do know he started his 3rd string QB tonight, right? You also know that he was playing without their Team's MVP, right? I'm really grateful we didn't have to play against a healthy Watt. If you give them watt back and give us our injured LBers back we win by more imo. Watt is a beast obviously but our injury situation this game was absolutely ridiculous. really weird seeing people use injuries as an excuse for them when we were fielding a preseason week 1 defense pretty much 😂 Rudolph was the 1st string qb I really don’t get that take. He massively outperformed Pickett and trubisky to the point where Pickett was getting benched while healthy down the stretch. Edited January 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I don’t understand knocking a coach who has NEVER had a losing season. 17 straight seasons and counting. Only Landry and Belichick have had better streaks. How anyone can’t respect that is beyond me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hopefully there is a local bowling league where he can be a leader of men since the football thing isn’t panning out. I don't think he can throw the ball with his super bowl ring on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) HC must be one of the difficult jobs in the world. I love how easy your average Walmart worker thinks it is. Edited January 16 by Bill Grundy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 8 hours ago, FireChans said: Man oh man, this guy is just so elite. He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself. All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach. SUPER SERIOUS EDIT: I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy. You really think we won that game yesterday because Tomlin was out coached by McD and Brady? Bradys lack of running the ball from mid 2nd quarter to end of 3rd cost us blowing out an inferior opponent. We won that game despite incompetent decision making on the coaching staff giving up big 3rd and longs again and again. We won that game because we have the best player on the planet under center. We won that game because of these battle tested PLAYERS who have seen it all. Thankfully our coaches didn’t totally blow this game in spite of our amazing team. I would take any remaining playoff head coach (besides Tampa) and his staff 100 times out of 100 over ours and because we have the best all around team in the league and we’d roll to a Super Bowl this year with an “elite” HC and staff 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Tomlin is good. Not sure how anyone can each another conclusion. PIT is in QB purgatory still. HC doing admirably with crap QB. Reminds me of our Tyrod Tailor days but they have a winning record 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Why do we care about Mike Tomlin again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Success said: Tomlin deserves credit, imo. This team, with a 3rd string QB, really had no business even getting near the playoffs. And they kept it pretty tight today after going down by 3 TD's, without their best player. They could have played their 1st string QB but chose not to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, FireChans said: Man oh man, this guy is just so elite. He really had his guys ready to play today. They kept it pretty close in the first Q and came out ready to fight. Just another incredible coaching product by Tomlin today. He saw what other “better than McDermott” coaches like Mike McCarthy cooked up yesterday and what Mike McDaniel cooked up the last two weeks and wanted a piece for himself. All these elite coaches, just being elite and superior to our own McDummy week after week. Good luck to Mike Tomlin on his elusive hunt for his second playoff win since 2016. If only we could be so lucky to have such a coach. SUPER SERIOUS EDIT: I crunched the numbers and it’s actually FIRST playoff win since 2016. Man, we gotta get THAT guy. Maybe in the first half you can say he got out coached. He made better 2nd half adjustments than Mclappity. The game was still in doubt til late 4th quarter. All Tomlin does is win, and the last 5 Bills games all I heard was winning was all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYFAN1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, GoBills808 said: This really isn't the take missing the best player on his team and his QB Agreed, weak af dunking on Tomlin in these circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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