FireChans Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? 4 1 3 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) He’s been hurt, Knox is back and we’ve ran the ball more. Edited December 31, 2023 by Not at the table Karlos 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He’s been hurt, Knox is back and we’ve ran the ball more. Agree, though I think he could be valuable tomorrow. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) I’ve said many a time before, our devotion to running the ball with unique personnel groupings including the use of guys like Gilliam, Edwards, etc is limiting his snaps IMO. Pair this with the return of Knox, and the fact that it doesn’t seem to be even a thought to push the ball down the field to him, it’s dried up. Even at the height of his success this year, it’s been a lot of dump and go, outlets, quick hitters, etc. For whatever reason, the guy who was touted in college as being a vertical threat is not being used in such a way whatsoever. This could be coverage based, scheme or simply play design in progressions but it’s frustrating. Even if Kincaid blows up and turns out to be an all pro for years to come, his immediate impact was unfortunately always going to be tampered by the presence of a highly paid player at the same position. Edited December 31, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, FireChans said: He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? what’s weird about our offense is it seems like we can only always get one guy going at a time. It’s either Diggs or Cook or Gabe, etc. I feel like it would help the entire offense to run more set plays for Kincaid and others to get them into a rhythm (eg, TE screens). we always gripe when a guy drops the ball. Well, It’s a lot easier to catch balls if you have had more chances and are in the flow of the game. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Seems like all the receivers are suffering a bit from more commitment to the run. The people getting more touches are Cook, Murray, Ty, Lenny and Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The last thing I’m concerned about on this team is Kinkaid. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Such a strange season thus far! Such a weird team! Having seen all this wackiness unfold, I am down to my constantly rehearsed mantra… ”I don’t give a ***** whether 🦬 wins by 1 or 100… against clowns like the Cheatriots manana or on through the Playoffs against the best… ”JUST WIN BABY!” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 If only the ignore button worked when posters made topics. 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: what’s weird about our offense is it seems like we can only always get one guy going at a time. It’s either Diggs or Cook or Gabe, etc. I feel like it would help the entire offense to run more set plays for Kincaid and others to get them into a rhythm (eg, TE screens). we always gripe when a guy drops the ball. Well, It’s a lot easier to catch balls if you have had more chances and are in the flow of the game. I kinda give the Bills a break with Kincaid’s usage at this point because we know Dorsey is awful and it’s not easy for Brady to add/change things in the middle of the season. I just find it odd that he’s fallen off so much. Of course, he probably has 8 catches for 140 and a TD tomorrow now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I knew this would happen when Knox came back. When they are both on the field neither of them do anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 This thread has given me the impetus to bet Reuben for the over yards tomorrow 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I think he has had trouble separating from physical coverage lately. He's getting knocked over off the line at times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Jesus christ, you complainers are insufferable 2 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Jesus christ, you complainers are insufferable We'll win the Super Bowl & someone will complain they lost all their prop bets & blame the players who didn't attain the yards they needed. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirebors Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 What does a little girl getting kidnapped and murdered have to do with football? I think you could have used a more appropriate comparison. Crass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: We'll win the Super Bowl & someone will complain they lost all their prop bets & blame the players who didn't attain the yards they needed. And the type of champagne they are popping and the order vehicles are in the championship parade…who’s sitting with who, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, FireChans said: He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? Imo the answer is mostly obvious, his previous target totals are now split with a healthy Knox, Cook and others, as well, Brady likes to change things up depending on what team we are playing , is he being used enough? No, but it’s not so much on him…, but if we continue to win it’s not such a big deal who is getting it done as long as it’s getting done…, GO BILLS!!! Edited December 31, 2023 by Don Otreply 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkim0904 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Against 31-10 win over cowboys, Kincaid had 2 drops and 0 yard. Josh had 94 yard passing. Am I worried hell No.... Edited December 31, 2023 by kkim0904 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Kincaid's on a milk carton because he can't catch a cold right now. Dalton is now Dropone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Is this one of those “ concerned, worried, or otherwise being apprehensive sort of threads? asking for a friend… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 JUST KEEP WINNING!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Jesus christ, you complainers are insufferable Watch your language 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Jesus christ, you complainers are insufferable I was thinking the same words, and I’m not even a Christian, 🤣 Edited December 31, 2023 by Don Otreply 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Watch your language Ok Paul 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? LaPorta s success or any other rookies busting has nothing to do with DK2. He's been nice for us, we're playing awesome. I, as well, as the rest of the team DGAF what his numbers are if we're winning, moving thr ball, and he's growing while helping others open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: We'll win the Super Bowl & someone will complain they lost all their prop bets & blame the players who didn't attain the yards they needed. They’ve been saying that for years, and still no Super Bowl lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, FireChans said: He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? No he’s fine just targets going elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Team and offense are playing well, but hard to see why they drafted him if they never planned to feature him. Perhaps he is in reserve in case of emergency at this time? Edited December 31, 2023 by RyanC883 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, FireChans said: He has 4 targets for 1 catch in the last two weeks. Even in the week before, he had 8 targets for 5 catches for 21 yards. He hasn’t eclipsed 50 yards receiving since the Denver game. What’s going on? Is he hitting a wall, while LaPorta breaks records? Did Knox push him out of the lineup? Was he a Dorsey guy? Has he been hanging out with Elam? What say you, and can we expect some first round production as we gear up for the postseason? APB for sure. i don’t think he’s hit the wall as much as knox’s return has sapped his snaps as he’s a much better blocker. Compounded by the fact that Brady hasn’t figured out how to use 2 tight ends yet. He didn’t in Carolina and he didn’t use them very much at LSU. We may not know what we have until next season. I also think he needs to put on some weight. Seems like he gets hit pretty hard and has been feeling the effects of some lingering injuries. Deep down im hoping this has been the plan all along and they have an entire DK86 playbook waiting to unleash come playoffs 🤣 😢 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I love watching how Detroit actually uses their amazing rookie TE LaPorta. Kincaid could be putting up very similar numbers as LaPorta if we actually committed to using him properly. I mean the team spends a first round pick on him and then doesn’t take full advantage of his skills. Makes ya wonder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, 4th&long said: I knew this would happen when Knox came back. When they are both on the field neither of them do anything. stud bookends at the TE position cannot be a bad thing. Can it? I'm going to go with there are just not enough offensive snaps to go around if Cook and Murray are to be fed too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, muppy said: stud bookends at the TE position cannot be a bad thing. Can it? I'm going to go with there are just not enough offensive snaps to go around if Cook and Murray are to be fed too.. Well you would think it wouldn’t be. But the proof is in the pudding. Neither of them catch the ball, get a lot of targets when they are on the field together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Well you would think it wouldn’t be. But the proof is in the pudding. Neither of them catch the ball, get a lot of targets when they are on the field together. I think you have to figure in game planning and how to best utilize the talent they have to win games. We both would be thrilled if they both happened to go off in the same game. winning is the bottom line. I'm not as concerned with who achieves and produces as long as some one in the offense does ya know? GO BILLS Edited December 31, 2023 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, sirebors said: What does a little girl getting kidnapped and murdered have to do with football? I think you could have used a more appropriate comparison. Crass. Wtf… this is a troll job right ? I’m pissed that I can’t tell lol Edited December 31, 2023 by julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) At no point this season have I felt like he’s really been a focal point. He almost got there in the middle of the season, but his average depth of target is just not advanced enough under Dorsey or Brady for me to really feel like he’s anything more than a place holder, a background piece in this offense. They don’t view him as a weapon, he’s a simple outlet. It’s not a role that has expanded whatsoever as the season has advanced, and now it’s 2-games left. And I said this earlier in the season, sure I agree with others on this site about and his scouting reports - he’s smooth and slippery underneath, but you don’t see a lot of rugged running or real tackle breaking. He catches the ball and falls down a lot. And Kincaid got asked about this and he pointed to this being something he’s going to work on in the off-season, I took it as he needs to work on his strength. Edited December 31, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 The usage all year has confounded me a bit. They have done very little seam stuff with him. They did pre-season and then have hardly gone to it once the season came around and when they have ran him deeper Josh has ignored him (either not seen him or the progression didn't take him there). But pure production wise he is pretty much where I predicted he'd be as a rookie save for I thought he might have another TD or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Saving him for the playoffs. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Send Kincaid on some deep and middle of the field routes already. I know Dalton has had injuries, 12 formation, and Knox have cut into targets. imo there is a chance they are waiting to showcase Dalton on deep balls for playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 9 hours ago, ToGoGo said: If only the ignore button worked when posters made topics. Don’t read them than 🤣🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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