TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, Simon said: A bit more info on Mike WIlliams: Two people close to Williams said his on-the-job accident was not initially thought to be life-threatening. He was hit in the head with a beam while doing electrical work on Aug. 21, a friend said, but his situation took a turn when his laceration became infected. Williams was hospitalized on Sept. 1 and eventually had to be induced him into a coma. Williams, 36, had been on life support this week after suffering complications from a workplace accident. He was taken off a ventilator Thursday evening but is surviving and remains responsive, according to Tierney Lyle, the mother of Williams’ 8-year-old daughter. Link to WIVB article So is he really paralyzed from the waist down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So is he really paralyzed from the waist down? No idea. I've never heard of paralysis in the lower extremities being the result of an infected head wound. I couldn't even begin to guess if that's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So is he really paralyzed from the waist down? From the sound of that article he wasn't in the hospital after the accident until over a week later, once the infection started? Edited September 8, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: So is he really paralyzed from the waist down? Apparently this was written by his father on the GoFundMe page they created: A steel beam falling on his head caused massive injuries but he never gained consciousness. After suffering a “massive” head injury, he also had massive swelling on his brain and would be paralyzed. “As a result of this accident, there was swelling on his brain and swelling on his spinal cord that was ruptured,” Williams’ father said. “These injuries resulted in complete paralysis in his right arm as well as his lower body from the waist down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Simon said: Apparently this was written by his father on the GoFundMe page they created: A steel beam falling on his head caused massive injuries but he never gained consciousness. After suffering a “massive” head injury, he also had massive swelling on his brain and would be paralyzed. “As a result of this accident, there was swelling on his brain and swelling on his spinal cord that was ruptured,” Williams’ father said. “These injuries resulted in complete paralysis in his right arm as well as his lower body from the waist down. This entire story is confusing; I just pray for the best for the young man. I wonder if this was supposed to say "never lost consciousness?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, TheFunPolice said: This entire story is confusing; I just pray for the best for the young man. I wonder if this was supposed to say "never lost consciousness?" Probably, considering that he didn't end up in the hospital until a week later. Agreed on the confusion. The reports are not necessarily contradictory, but they just don't seem to mesh into a coherent narrative. Can't do much but hope for the best at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 So now he’s off life support and still alive? A+ reporting on his death. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 6:40 AM, John from Riverside said: Financial planning is a must for a professional athlete An aside: a former Bill (fairly well known) is a financial planner for athletes, and doing quite well. He told me that he saw too many players pissing away their money--plus he had a college internship at a financial institution--and thus he got into this market niche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 19 hours ago, Simon said: Probably, considering that he didn't end up in the hospital until a week later. Agreed on the confusion. The reports are not necessarily contradictory, but they just don't seem to mesh into a coherent narrative. Can't do much but hope for the best at this point. Sounds like his dad embellished (being kind here) for the purposes of donations. Williams had a non life threatening head laceration that got infected, probably got septic/intubated/extubated/recovering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) Man I remember watching Riverside play my highschool in playoff basketball with Mike Williams and Johnny Flynn on their team. Pre-game warmups looked like the NBA Slam Dunk competition. After the opening tip off, Mike Williams gets the ball and immediately shoots a 3-pt shot from behind the half court line and swoosh, down 3-0. That's when the game ended. Edited September 10, 2023 by Kaenon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Just a strange story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) On 9/8/2023 at 4:35 PM, MJS said: It does require a shift in perspective and self identity, for sure, and that would probably be even more pronounced for a former pro athlete. I'm sure a big part of his identity is rooted in his athleticism and physical strength. But people can make that shift and find happiness even in the face of tremendous physical adversity, and part of that comes from the realization that you are more than your physical body and physical abilities. You have value in many other areas. Christopher Reeve is a good example. He accomplished a lot after his accident and even continued acting. I am not Christopher Reeve, however. There are many who could do it, but I am not that person. Robin Williams wasn't that person either. It's not a bad thing to have differing opinions on how a person would handle being almost completely paralyzed. Edited September 10, 2023 by EasternOHBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Kaenon said: Man I remember watching Riverside play my highschool in playoff basketball with Mike Williams and Johnny Flynn on their team. Pre-game warmups looked like the NBA Slam Dunk competition. After the opening tip off, Mike Williams gets the ball and immediately shoots a 3-pt shot from behind the half court line and swoosh, down 3-0. That's when the game ended. Flynn went to Niagara falls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 10 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I am not Christopher Reeve, however. There are many who could do it, but I am not that person. Robin Williams wasn't that person either. It's not a bad thing to have differing opinions on how a person would handle being almost completely paralyzed. I hear you man. I don't think I could do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 RIP, again. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: RIP, again. That’s too bad. RIP, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I didnt go through the whole thread. Did anyone ever report the details of the accident? What happened exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: I didnt go through the whole thread. Did anyone ever report the details of the accident? What happened exactly? Seems like he got hit in the head with a steel beam that laid him open. Then didn't treat it properly and nearly a week later it became infected and ended up with him in the hospital. May have been so bad that they induced a coma and had him on life support. Removed him from life support about 4 days ago and he was breathing on his own. Mush of this is inferred from incomplete reports but it's about all I've got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I work in construction. A few seconds can change your life, or even end your life. May he RIP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: RIP, again. @boystclassless to laugh. Shame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: @boystclassless to laugh. Shame Hot the wrong button, Jesus bro. Put the pitchfork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsUberAlles Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Now he apparently HAS passed away officially. RIP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 So very sad 😔. May he RIP. My heart breaks for his loved ones, especially his little girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 Hug your loved ones. It can happen at any point to anyone, you just never know. See you on the other side, Mike. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) https://www.wkrn.com/news/national/former-nfl-player-mike-williams-cause-of-death-confirmed-by-officials/ "Former NFL player Mike Williams’ cause of death confirmed by officials" "Williams, who played college ball at Syracuse before being selected in the 4th round of the 2010 NFL draft, was working on a construction site when he sustained injuries after heavy supplies landed on his head. While initially believed to be non-life-threatening, Williams was hospitalized after his symptoms worsened that week, his mother told News 2’s sister station, WIVB. The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner Department said his death was caused by “Bacterial Sepsis with Cerebral Abscesses and Necrotizing Lobar Pneumonia due to multiple Dental Caries and retained tooth roots.” Officials also listed Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease as a contributing factor. A cerebral abscess is a collection of pus the develops in the brain due to infections, according to John Hopkins Medicine. It can cause your brain to swell and restrict blood flow. Bacterial sepsis is a life-threatening medical emergency caused by the body’s extreme response to infection, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said. If not treated in time, it can cause tissue damage, organ failure, and death." Buffalo released some videos of Mike Williams' time at Buffalo two weeks ago: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-comes-full-circle-13397417 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-it-s-going-to-be-surreal-13523518 His cause of death is scary. A few cavities becomes an abscess and sepsis. RIP. Edited December 22, 2023 by chongli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Quote The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner’s Office in Florida said Thursday that Williams’ cause of death was “bacterial sepsis with cerebral abscesses and necrotizing lobar pneumonia due to multiple dental caries and retained dental roots,” according to ESPN, which is a rare condition linked to poor dental health that leads to infections. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 7 hours ago, chongli said: https://www.wkrn.com/news/national/former-nfl-player-mike-williams-cause-of-death-confirmed-by-officials/ "Former NFL player Mike Williams’ cause of death confirmed by officials" "Williams, who played college ball at Syracuse before being selected in the 4th round of the 2010 NFL draft, was working on a construction site when he sustained injuries after heavy supplies landed on his head. While initially believed to be non-life-threatening, Williams was hospitalized after his symptoms worsened that week, his mother told News 2’s sister station, WIVB. The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner Department said his death was caused by “Bacterial Sepsis with Cerebral Abscesses and Necrotizing Lobar Pneumonia due to multiple Dental Caries and retained tooth roots.” Officials also listed Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease as a contributing factor. A cerebral abscess is a collection of pus the develops in the brain due to infections, according to John Hopkins Medicine. It can cause your brain to swell and restrict blood flow. Bacterial sepsis is a life-threatening medical emergency caused by the body’s extreme response to infection, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said. If not treated in time, it can cause tissue damage, organ failure, and death." Buffalo released some videos of Mike Williams' time at Buffalo two weeks ago: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-comes-full-circle-13397417 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-it-s-going-to-be-surreal-13523518 His cause of death is scary. A few cavities becomes an abscess and sepsis. RIP. Wow, sepsis is no f****** way you want to go. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 10 hours ago, chongli said: His cause of death is scary. A few cavities becomes an abscess and sepsis. RIP. Does that mean the construction company got out of liability, because that would kind of suck for his family. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Sad man. You know a lot of people who know Williams. He was definitely a bit of a knucklehead (and when you’re a multiple sport star like he was you get full of yourself) but he grew up a lot. To think he was working construction and earning an honest living and got this from work is really sad. I also believe his last catch in the nfl was an 80 yard td from EJ. Sad story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 10 hours ago, chongli said: https://www.wkrn.com/news/national/former-nfl-player-mike-williams-cause-of-death-confirmed-by-officials/ "Former NFL player Mike Williams’ cause of death confirmed by officials" "Williams, who played college ball at Syracuse before being selected in the 4th round of the 2010 NFL draft, was working on a construction site when he sustained injuries after heavy supplies landed on his head. While initially believed to be non-life-threatening, Williams was hospitalized after his symptoms worsened that week, his mother told News 2’s sister station, WIVB. The Hillsborough County Medical Examiner Department said his death was caused by “Bacterial Sepsis with Cerebral Abscesses and Necrotizing Lobar Pneumonia due to multiple Dental Caries and retained tooth roots.” Officials also listed Arteriosclerotic Cardiovascular Disease as a contributing factor. A cerebral abscess is a collection of pus the develops in the brain due to infections, according to John Hopkins Medicine. It can cause your brain to swell and restrict blood flow. Bacterial sepsis is a life-threatening medical emergency caused by the body’s extreme response to infection, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said. If not treated in time, it can cause tissue damage, organ failure, and death." Buffalo released some videos of Mike Williams' time at Buffalo two weeks ago: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-comes-full-circle-13397417 https://www.buffalobills.com/video/mike-williams-it-s-going-to-be-surreal-13523518 His cause of death is scary. A few cavities becomes an abscess and sepsis. RIP. Poor healthcare kills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 53 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: Poor healthcare kills He probably didn't have dental insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Dental insurance isn’t a “real insurance” as your costs don’t skyrocket very much (vs. cancer) It’s sad because it was likely prevented, with merely a couple thousand dollars. People generally don’t realize it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 hours ago, chongli said: He probably didn't have dental insurance. he had the ability to provide his own basic dental care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he had the ability to provide his own basic dental care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 9/7/2023 at 11:35 AM, Mr. WEO said: That's the sad part? The mere thought of it? What if you work construction without having played pro football (nearly everyone in construction)? Should those people feel better or worse after reading your comment? Working 12-16 hr shifts in a paper mill gives me little sympathy for someone who burns through nfl paychecks or lottery winnings. I do sympathize with him for the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said: Working 12-16 hr shifts in a paper mill gives me little sympathy for someone who burns through nfl paychecks or lottery winnings. I do sympathize with him for the injury. I've always wondered if it smells the same inside as it does outside? If so, do you stop noticing it eventually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Simon said: I've always wondered if it smells the same inside as it does outside? If so, do you stop noticing it eventually? I used to drive a buddy home from work after long days working as a fishmonger. I never got used to that smell, and my car took a few days to get over it. Regardless of weather, the windows were down. 🤢 🤮 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Augie said: I used to drive a buddy home from work after long days working as a fishmonger. I never got used to that smell, and my car took a few days to get over it. Regardless of weather, the windows were down. 🤢 🤮 Somebody, somewhere, is driving my Wrangler with Wild Turkey puke still unfindable all up in there...🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said: Working 12-16 hr shifts in a paper mill gives me little sympathy for someone who burns through nfl paychecks or lottery winnings. I do sympathize with him for the injury. Do you work at the mill in Niagara Falls? I used to work for Valmet and staffed the maintenance team over there about 10 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 23 hours ago, Since1981 said: Dental insurance isn’t a “real insurance” as your costs don’t skyrocket very much (vs. cancer) It’s sad because it was likely prevented, with merely a couple thousand dollars. People generally don’t realize it I would think the pain from numerous cavities that have advanced to such a point that they are anywhere near bacterial sepsis would bring a person to an emergency dentist at the hospital. Scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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