Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Before I go into this, I want to defend Simms and Florio for a minute. Unlike the talking heads on ESPN and FS1, they don't spout things just for shock or clicks. If you disagree, I encourage you to actually watch PFT every day instead of piling on because it's cool to hate Florio like it's cool to hate Nickelback. With that out of the way, Simms and Florio said on PFT this morning that the Dolphins have a top-3 roster in the NFL and are the best team on paper in the AFC East, supplanting the Bills. Simms said a position-by-position analysis, outside of QB, would be a landslide in favor of the Dolphins. Do you agree? Why or why not? I'll admit that I was slightly puzzled by the comments, because I think I disagree. QB: Bills OL: Bills, right? RB: Tie? I actually like the Bills' room better. WR: Dolphins? They have elite talent, but I think the Bills have better overall depth. TE: Bills DL: Dolphins, but it's close LB: Dolphins CB: Dolphins, probably, if Ramsey is behind included, but it's close again S: Bills? Specialists: Tie? Is that a Dolphins landslide? I don't think so. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I prefer being chased to doing the chasing 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 No, they are stronger in a couple areas but overall the QB difference is too overwhelming 11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Better? Yes. Obviously? No. 1 1 2 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Oh if you mean outside QB then it's a reasonable take 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Is you open a premise with a question the answer tends to be no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I would give the Bills the edge at QB, TE, and probably S. That's about it. The rest are either pretty close, or in the Dolphins favor. Overall I'd say the Dolphins roster is confidently better. Not a landslide, though, especially because of the bonus advantage we have with Josh. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 No there are not. Cant wait for the season. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yeah right Florio and Simms would NEVER, I mean NEVER spout things for shock or clicks. God this season cant come soon enough. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Have to admit, I think it's pretty close. I disagree with some of your opinions, but that's OK. I think Bills get the slight nod just due to the importance of the QB position 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, arcane said: I prefer being chased to doing the chasing Thus here. I can care less what the national opinion is about the team I love. Plus it's easy to lose the edge if you buy into all the hype. I will enjoy seeing the Dolphins melt down as payback for the heat melt down the Bills suffered last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Lot's of question marks and "ifs" in your OP response. The biggest "if" is IF Tua stays in for their season, the Phins are a much better team than the Bills. They are faster, their offense runs a lot of motion and interesting plays. That is O coaching which they are better. All around, I'd say they have a stronger team. Again, this is with Tua. If Tua didn't miss all those games last year including our playoff tilt - they beat us. I love the Bills but the Phins are gonna be tough this year! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I think the Dolphins may have better top of the roster talent. However they appear to lack depth at a lot of positions. On the other hand, the Bills may lack that true top end talent outside the obvious guys, however seem to be much deeper in depth to me. Over the course of a season, injuries happen. Guys miss time. I'll take Buffalo's top 53 over Miami's for a 17 game seasons. I think we have a much better shot at sustaining wins while key players are out (see last year). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 This is all about "on paper". And on paper, it's tough to argue against their position. The main difference in the Bills favor is how much better Josh is than Tua. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Bills have the better QB, O-line, TE's, RB's and Safeties. D-line (don't forgot Von, Floyd and Groot) and CB is a wash/tie Fish have better WR's, LB's Bills Roster > Fish Roster 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Wont know until they play actual games. Everything else is just nonsense and conjecture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I mean, Tua even when healthy down the stretch wasn't that good. He started off red hot and then cooled. How can you really count on him over 17 games? In his final 4 games.... 6/5 TD to INT Roughly 50% completion percentage 4 straight losses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Bills have the better QB, O-line, TE's, RB's and Safeties. D-line (don't forgot Von, Floyd and Groot) and CB is a wash/tie Fish have better WR's, LB's Bills Roster > Fish Roster Even though I dont support the premise of this thread I agree with your overall assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yes, they're better than us. The same way the they were "better" than us last year. And like like last year I expect we win more games than the "better" team. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 The toilet is busted, I have no car, now this..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 The one thing I’d like is for the Bills to get faster. WR and TE are probably fine, but the most glaring lack of speed is in the secondary. And maybe on the edges at DE (without a healthy Von factored in). Dolphins have one of the fastest teams in the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Looking back at the games last year. The Bills deserved to win in Miami. They went up and down the field all day but just couldn't finish drives. Miami deserved to win in Buffalo as I thought they had the better of the play most of the night. The playoff game looked like it was going to be a Bills blowout until the Bills got sloppy and turned the ball over. Credit the Dolphins for coming back and making it a game with a scrub at QB. I expect the games will be close again this year. I am more worried about the Jets then I am the Fins. Edited August 23, 2023 by Gregg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Airseven said: Better? Yes. Obviously? No. Silence dolfan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yeah right Florio and Simms would NEVER, I mean NEVER spout things for shock or clicks. God this season cant come soon enough. They don't. They're not like the other idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yeah right Florio and Simms would NEVER, I mean NEVER spout things for shock or clicks. God this season cant come soon enough. as long as the offseason has been to this point, 18 days will go in the blink of an eye. it's almost here 🏈 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Nickelback sucks. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 The Dolphins are better than the Bills.....until they have to play them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Mike White is already in concussion protocol, and I doubt Tua will stay healthy for 17 games. They have a QB problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Phils n Bills said: Nickelback sucks. So does all rap music in the last 15 years. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Dolphins are always far below looking way up at the Bills, the 70’s and the Drought Era are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So does all rap music in the last 15 years. Sorry Taylor Swift is even worse. Swifties, good grief.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 At the end of the day they still have a coach in year two and an iffy quarterback situation. They can 100% all click and Tua stay healthy and be one of the top teams if everything falls perfectly in place. They have potential to be good. But I’m not taking an unproven roster with iffy players like Tua and Chubb over a team that’s at least been consistently a top regular season team for a few years now. I can see why people love their roster though, some nice young pieces and some flashy big name players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Tua is always one hit away from ending his NFL career. That is a fatal flaw with that team, so I can't possibly give them the edge over our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) The Bills had the best roster in the AFCE, outside the quarterback, for a few years during the drought. The Eagles had a better roster than KC at every position except QB and TE. Edited August 23, 2023 by unbillievable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I have to hear this debate from dolphins fans. I don't want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: Sorry Taylor Swift is even worse. Swifties, good grief.......... I would rather listen to Taylor Swift than Rush. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 The Dolphins QB has a lot of spinal issues, ours only has a bad elbow on his throwing arm. Both teams are playing in Europe this fall, the Dolphins go there as a visitor and play the Chiefs on a neutral field where the Bills sold a home game to London and play the Jaguars in their future home city... The Bills of course play the Chiefs in KC every year. I think it'll come down to 1 game between these two teams to win the AFC East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, Gregg said: Mike White is already in concussion protocol, and I doubt Tua will stay healthy for 17 games. They have a QB problem. Is he really? That is almost funny and the Dolphins did little to improve their o line..and people B word about how we haven't done enough for our o line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Before I go into this, I want to defend Simms and Florio for a minute. Unlike the talking heads on ESPN and FS1, they don't spout things just for shock or clicks. If you disagree, I encourage you to actually watch PFT every day instead of piling on because it's cool to hate Florio like it's cool to hate Nickelback. With that out of the way, Simms and Florio said on PFT this morning that the Dolphins have a top-3 roster in the NFL and are the best team on paper in the AFC East, supplanting the Bills. Simms said a position-by-position analysis, outside of QB, would be a landslide in favor of the Dolphins. Do you agree? Why or why not? I'll admit that I was slightly puzzled by the comments, because I think I disagree. QB: Bills OL: Bills, right? RB: Tie? I actually like the Bills' room better. WR: Dolphins? They have elite talent, but I think the Bills have better overall depth. TE: Bills DL: Dolphins, but it's close LB: Dolphins CB: Dolphins, probably, if Ramsey is behind included, but it's close again S: Bills? Specialists: Tie? Is that a Dolphins landslide? I don't think so. The one thing we got to take into account is the aging of the Bills roster. On paper the names look great but we got a lot of our stars starting to age we will see if that makes a difference or not this yr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Upper tier team vs upper tier team- any given Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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