Doc Brown Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29, Bob Griese - 27, Ken Stabler - 31, Jim Plunkett - 33, Phil Simms - 31, Steve Young - 33, Brett Favre - 27, John Elway - 37, Kurt Warner - 28, Peyton Manning -30, Drew Brees - 31, Aaron Rodgers - 27, Eli Manning - 31, Joe Flacco - 28, Matt Stafford - 34 14 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Happy Birthday Josh! He’s only 27, and he’s still learning. The people who act like we are out of chances are just full of drama. I hate drama. Surround him with weapons and protect him. We have at least a decade of high level football to look forward to. Time will tell, and fingers crossed. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 HB,JA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29, Bob Griese - 27, Ken Stabler - 31, Jim Plunkett - 33, Phil Simms - 31, Steve Young - 33, Brett Favre - 27, John Elway - 37, Kurt Warner - 28, Peyton Manning -30, Drew Brees - 31, Aaron Rodgers - 27, Eli Manning - 31, Joe Flacco - 28, Matt Stafford - 34 Your post makes me wonder how many QBs have won a Super Bowl before the age of 27... Anyways, Happy Birthday Josh!!! So grateful you're our quarterback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Your post makes me wonder how many QBs have won a Super Bowl before the age of 27... Anyways, Happy Birthday Josh!!! So grateful you're our quarterback! And players, especially QB’s, are just lasting longer and longer with better training and nutrition, etc. Josh can do that too, he just needs to adjust his style a bit and be more judicious in picking his spots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29, Bob Griese - 27, Ken Stabler - 31, Jim Plunkett - 33, Phil Simms - 31, Steve Young - 33, Brett Favre - 27, John Elway - 37, Kurt Warner - 28, Peyton Manning -30, Drew Brees - 31, Aaron Rodgers - 27, Eli Manning - 31, Joe Flacco - 28, Matt Stafford - 34 Surely Eli won his first before 31? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Surely Eli won his first before 31? I thought he was 27. Born January 1981; won Super Bowl XLII in 2008. Great list, though, and point well made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Surely Eli won his first before 31? @Doc Brown doesn’t like it when you call him Shirley.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Augie said: Happy Birthday Josh! He’s only 27, and he’s still learning. The people who act like we are out of chances are just full of drama. I hate drama. Surround him with weapons and protect him. We have at least a decade of high level football to look forward to. Time will tell, and fingers crossed. Fine but once he turns 28 it's over 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 He is getting “middle age” by NFL standards. Happy Birthday!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29, Bob Griese - 27, Ken Stabler - 31, Jim Plunkett - 33, Phil Simms - 31, Steve Young - 33, Brett Favre - 27, John Elway - 37, Kurt Warner - 28, Peyton Manning -30, Drew Brees - 31, Aaron Rodgers - 27, Eli Manning - 31, Joe Flacco - 28, Matt Stafford - 34 Thanks Doc. This crap about Allen’s window is closing as well as the Bills is just that.. CRAP. Elway’s Broncos finally won his last two years in the league. Our window closes when Super Allen retires. That will be about a bakers dozen years from now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Thanks Doc. This crap about Allen’s window is closing as well as the Bills is just that.. CRAP. Elway’s Broncos finally won his last two years in the league. Our window closes when Super Allen retires. That will be about a bakers dozen years from now. I like the feeling that our front office in now smart enough to be able to find the “next Josh” without letting a couple decades pass. I vote YES on a smart FO! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Thanks Doc. This crap about Allen’s window is closing as well as the Bills is just that.. CRAP. Elway’s Broncos finally won his last two years in the league. Our window closes when Super Allen retires. That will be about a bakers dozen years from now. You not only believe Allen plays until he is 40, but at a SB winning level until that age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 He’s getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29, Bob Griese - 27, Ken Stabler - 31, Jim Plunkett - 33, Phil Simms - 31, Steve Young - 33, Brett Favre - 27, John Elway - 37, Kurt Warner - 28, Peyton Manning -30, Drew Brees - 31, Aaron Rodgers - 27, Eli Manning - 31, Joe Flacco - 28, Matt Stafford - 34 Excluding Trent Dilfer does not make sense. Like Ravens you are discounting what he did. Ravens did it and replaced him following year and the success was all due to their defense as many Ravens fans claimed was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Thanks Doc. This crap about Allen’s window is closing as well as the Bills is just that.. CRAP. Elway’s Broncos finally won his last two years in the league. Our window closes when Super Allen retires. That will be about a bakers dozen years from now. Only after they brought in a new HC... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Considering how raw Josh was coming out of Wyoming I’d say his window is just now opening. We finally made some upgrades on the offensive line plus another 1st round target. It’s time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Your post makes me wonder how many QBs have won a Super Bowl before the age of 27... Anyways, Happy Birthday Josh!!! So grateful you're our quarterback! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On Jim Kelly's 27th birthday, he had played only 1 year in the NFL and didn't play in a Super Bowl until he was 30. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The window is just now opening. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/21/happy-27th-josh-allen/ yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Happy Birthday JA17!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: You not only believe Allen plays until he is 40, but at a SB winning level until that age? It’s certainly possible in this day and age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, LabattBlue said: You not only believe Allen plays until he is 40, but at a SB winning level until that age? While the rules they have added over the years do help a QB extend their careers, but only if those QBs can take advantage of the rules. Big part of that is getting the correct players to protect Josh and Josh to use a protective pocket more. As he has lacked a solid oline it will take a little time for Allen to trust a protecting line versus the turnstiles he's played behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s getting old. He’s just a kid for crying out loud…, 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Happy Birthday Josh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The window is less about Allen’s age and much more about how much help the organization gives him with roster building and coachees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Does this also then mean that Edmunds is no longer 19? I’ve lost track of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Happy Birthday 🎂🎁🎊🎈🎉🏈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomur67 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Have an awesome day , Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Limeaid said: Excluding Trent Dilfer does not make sense. Like Ravens you are discounting what he did. Ravens did it and replaced him following year and the success was all due to their defense as many Ravens fans claimed was wrong. A nutless monkey QB could've won with that defense and running game that year. Their defense only let up 10.3 ppg in the regular season and only 5.75 ppg in their four playoff wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Don Otreply said: He’s just a kid for crying out loud…, 😂 When I was just a bit older than him and folks my age would tell me I was a kid, I'd get mad. Now I wish I was a kid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: When I was just a bit older than him and folks my age would tell me I was a kid, I'd get mad. Now I wish I was a kid. I’m a 64 year old kid, the 17 year old in me keeps trying to be in charge, 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 10 hours ago, LabattBlue said: You not only believe Allen plays until he is 40, but at a SB winning level until that age? How old is Brady, and have the rules since he started been changed for safer conditions for QB’s. So yes, I think the way the NFL treats QB’s and if he and Beane really mean it to mitigate the hits, he has a chance. Do you want this to be over at 35 given in his previous 5 years, he missed 4 games when playing hero ball. Hes been hurt at times with the repeated UCL and both shoulder and chest, he managed his way through it. He’s done nothing but improve with every year. My point is we don’t need anyone until at least Allen is say 33-34. Not a backup, but a four year developmental guy. We can let a good talent marinate for two three years. Go old school and not through an youngin in there. Lets keep building up every other offensive and defensive position including the lines over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Happy BD Josh ! All the best ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Are there really that many people freaking out that Josh Allen's window being able to win a Super Bowl is closing? There's always a few idiots out there but I don't think that's how the general pulse of the fanbase feels. I think the bigger concern is have the Bills built a capable team around him to win a Super Bowl? That one has much more merit IMO Oh yeah Happy Birthday Josh! 🍻 Enjoy playing Oak Hill tomorrow, hit em straight⛳ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: How old is Brady, and have the rules since he started been changed for safer conditions for QB’s. So yes, I think the way the NFL treats QB’s and if he and Beane really mean it to mitigate the hits, he has a chance. Do you want this to be over at 35 given in his previous 5 years, he missed 4 games when playing hero ball. Hes been hurt at times with the repeated UCL and both shoulder and chest, he managed his way through it. He’s done nothing but improve with every year. My point is we don’t need anyone until at least Allen is say 33-34. Not a backup, but a four year developmental guy. We can let a good talent marinate for two three years. Go old school and not through an youngin in there. Lets keep building up every other offensive and defensive position including the lines over the years. I would love to see him play at a high level until 40. Do I think it will happen…not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 17 hours ago, Doc Brown said: May all your wishes come true but particularly the one where you wish to host the Lombardi in a Bills uniform. For those worried the Super Bowl window with him is probably over I'm just going to list some notable NFL QB's who won their first Super Bowl after turning 27. Included only NFL players that are in HOF and/or were drafted in the top 32. I excluded the first five Super Bowls because they may have won one before their age 27 season if they existed. I also excluded Trent Dilfer because he's well Trent Dilfer. Roger Staubach - age 29 You have to give Staubach a pass I believe. Heck, he spent four prime years in uniform, including a tour in Vietnam. Not saying he would have won a Super Bowl earlier but it at least deserves an asterisk. No matter what, Happy Birthday Mr. Allen. May you have many, many more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 11 hours ago, balln said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/21/happy-27th-josh-allen/ yikes Soon he’ll be dead. Window is closing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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