BillsFan619 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) “Houston has played in nine playoff games in his career and has reached the postseason seven times. However, he's never won a Super Bowl. Given that he's at the latter stage of his career, one would imagine that he'd like to check that box off on his résumé, so the Bills would be a good fit in that regard. He'd pair with Von Miller to enhance a strong pass-rushing unit and help Buffalo try to slay a gauntlet of quarterbacks in the AFC.” https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-houston-landing-spots-potential-fits-as-veteran-pass-rusher-reportedly-receiving-significant-interest/ Also, here’s some stats for Houston in 2022. He “totaled 9.5 sacks with the Baltimore Ravens, proving he has some good football left in the tank. He also posted 39 quarterback pressures and a forced fumble. The most impressive part? He did all of that in 14 games and while playing only 44 percent of defensive snaps…” https://buffalowdown.com/posts/buffalo-bills-rumors-bills-tabbed-landing-spot-justin-houston-01h0nh09agdz Edited May 18, 2023 by BillsFan619 9 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said: “Houston has played in nine playoff games in his career and has reached the postseason seven times. However, he's never won a Super Bowl. Given that he's at the latter stage of his career, one would imagine that he'd like to check that box off on his résumé, so the Bills would be a good fit in that regard. He'd pair with Von Miller to enhance a strong pass-rushing unit and help Buffalo try to slay a gauntlet of quarterbacks in the AFC.” https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-houston-landing-spots-potential-fits-as-veteran-pass-rusher-reportedly-receiving-significant-interest/ He’s been on my wish list every offseason. He’s better than our previous 2nd round picks. 5 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Getting in on page 1 here... 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? Dude had another good year last year and made peanuts. I looked few Mos ago, details a smidge fuzzy but it was like 9sacks $5m. Just make it work. Nasty veteran who despite past his prime, knows how to give OCs fits. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Reportedly we offered Yannick Ngakoue an incentive loaded deal (if ECB and Cover 1 are to be believed) that he turned down. I tend to feel that makes sense given our cap situation and the large amount of finessing we've already done via restructures. I feel like if there were more restructures to be done that Beane was comfortable doing, that he'd have done them by now. DT extensions to free cap space are a popular cap freeing sentiment amongst fans. But Beane has said he won't look to do that until into Training Camp, at the earliest. He wants to see who's looking good, who's interested, and talk to them about numbers first. He may also want to see how Poona Ford looks this year before committing to others. He also said he looked into getting DE's in here post Draft and wasn't able to do it. That's why he claimed Cline and brought in Ray for an extended tryout and decided to sign him. Long story short, I think a move for someone like Houston may have sailed with the signings of Cline and Ray. We currently sit at 9 DE's in Camp, with all 5 of our DE's from last year's 53 returning, Von reportedly on schedule to miss no time (at most a game or two), no cap space with little wiggle room, and 88 of 90 roster spots filled - when Beane said he didn't want to bring 90 to camp. If Houston were to sign here, he'd have to be agreeable to a fully incentive laden deal for league minimum. That seems to be the most we're willing to do. If we're interested in adding a 10th DE at all at this point. Edited May 17, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 You've already got a 34 year old Defensive End at home. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: He’s been on my wish list every offseason. He’s better than our previous 2nd round picks. A bag of footballs are better than our recent 2nd round picks 2 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DJB said: A bag of footballs are better than our recent 2nd round picks I have hope AJ could have a breakout year coming into a contract year. He has flashed in the past Just inconsistent. Especially when Von gets back but as of now he'd be getting like 3-5 mil per year I'd think Edited May 17, 2023 by JerseyBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? Houston....we've got a problem! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Would be a nice piece to add to the DE rotation. Esp if Von might not be 100% to start the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, DJB said: A bag of footballs are better than our recent 2nd round picks Not even close to true. 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 We really need one of the young guys at DE to step this year and have a career year. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? And there in lies the rub… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Worth noting for those that will just read the headline and comment...this article is pure speculation and names 4 random teams that the writer feels he may fit. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I have wanted this guy for years. Flame away but i had no interest in Miller. Because of salary more than anything Would have preferred Houston. Before he went to Ravens. And he did a nice job there ! We would still have money to sign another like Yannick or whatever. But just imagine lining Miller and Houston up on the same down. GAWD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Getting in on page 1 here... think I just made it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Worth noting for those that will just read the headline and comment...this article is pure speculation and names 4 random teams that the writer feels he may fit. Its a fantasy. dont spoll the moment geesh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: I have hope AJ could have a breakout year coming into a contract year. He has flashed in the past Just inconsistent. Especially when Von gets back but as of now he'd be getting like 3-5 mil per year I'd think The key issue with our our 2nd round DEs in their inability to make plays when it counts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Its a fantasy. dont spoll the moment geesh Ok. Then the article clearly states if this thread gets to 200 pages he will sign for the NFL minimum AND buy wings for the whole stadium at the home opener. GO! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) Houston seems like good fit for the Bills on a short-term deal, if they can come to terms. Obviously, the Bills don't have a lot of cash to spend, but they do present one of the better opportunties to win a championship. I suspect Von Miller won't be ready (or at least not 100%) until later in the season, so this would be a huge help until Miller gets back and having both of them on the field later in the season could cause some major challenges for opposing offenses. This isn't just a "sign him because he's available and we've heard of him" type of deal. This guy is available and could really be a difference maker without breaking the bank. Unfortunately, the bank might already be closed. I don't think that the other two DEs we recently signed would preclude us from signing Houston. Those guys are camp bodies/kicking-the-tires types. Neither is going to be paid much and both are long shots to make the team. Edited May 18, 2023 by msw2112 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Billl said: You've already got a 34 year old Defensive End at home. Meaning, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 3 hours ago, NewEra said: He’s been on my wish list every offseason. He’s better than our previous 2nd round picks. Same. Heck, he's better than Greg R. right now. B. Smith had a 9 sack season at 39. I think Houston is aging well like Smith did. We should be going after him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'd normally just post GIT 'R' DUN!! and call it a day, but HTF can we afford him? void years. It’s simple 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Same. Heck, he's better than Greg R. right now. B. Smith had a 9 sack season at 39. I think Houston is aging well like Smith did. We should be going after him. Do you really believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Dude had another good year last year and made peanuts. I looked few Mos ago, details a smidge fuzzy but it was like 9sacks $5m. Just make it work. Nasty veteran who despite past his prime, knows how to give OCs fits. Not quite peanuts but not a ton either: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/justin-houston-7789/ 4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Worth noting for those that will just read the headline and comment...this article is pure speculation and names 4 random teams that the writer feels he may fit. The actual point to me is that Justin Houston (9.5 sacks), Leonard Floyd (9.0 sacks), Yannick Ngakoue (9.5 sacks), Robert Quinn (18.5 in 2021), Melvin Ingram (6.0 sacks),and Frank Clark (5.0 sacks) are all free agents. None intend to retire and none will get the money they're seeking which means that most of these guys if not all can be had fairly cheaply. Of this group Frank Clark and Leonard Floyd have Super Bowl rings which could mean that like Justin Houston, Ngakoue, Quinn, and Ingram might find the Bills an attractive destination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I rather wait till after June 1st cuts to see what is out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Getting that man on this team would not be a bad thing for sure but is there enough cap space to bring him on ? Being a hired gun he will more likely than not command a pretty decent contract for his services & given the Bills cap space Beane might not be able to pull that one off . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 10 hours ago, NoSaint said: void years. It’s simple We can kick some of the cap hit down the road a year or two with void years. The Browns are doing that with Za’darius Smith’s contract, though all the details are not out yet. Cap hit of about $3M this season on an $11.75M, 1-year deal. They’ll either re-sign him (unlikely) or designate him a 6/1 cut next offseason to push some of the hit out to 2025. They’re being very aggressive with the cap to try to gain an advantage. Obviously there are always risks to that. We will just have to wait and see how aggressive the Bills are willing to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Would gladly take him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 if I recall, the last 2 deals he signed were for 2 and 3 million. We could certainly make that work The Shane Ray and Cline moves are likely just competition to push AJ and Basham and were done in case we can't land a veteran rotational starter. Neither one prevents us from adding 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: The actual point to me is that Justin Houston (9.5 sacks), Leonard Floyd (9.0 sacks), Yannick Ngakoue (9.5 sacks), Robert Quinn (18.5 in 2021), Melvin Ingram (6.0 sacks),and Frank Clark (5.0 sacks) are all free agents. None intend to retire and none will get the money they're seeking which means that most of these guys if not all can be had fairly cheaply. Of this group Frank Clark and Leonard Floyd have Super Bowl rings which could mean that like Justin Houston, Ngakoue, Quinn, and Ingram might find the Bills an attractive destination. In addition to those six guys, you can add Jadeveon Clowney and Jason Pierre-Paul as veteran Edge Rushers who could help. I fully expect the Bills to end up with (at least) one of these guys, once the season gets closer. Demand appears to be low, so the contracts should be pretty cheap. By waiting, the players can avoid training camp, which is a plus for them. By waiting, the Bills can also get a better idea on Von Miller's health and if any of our young guys (AJ Epenesa, Boogie Basham) appear to have made progress in their development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 12 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Worth noting for those that will just read the headline and comment...this article is pure speculation and names 4 random teams that the writer feels he may fit. Gotta put that content out there, even when it’s just make believe, click 💵 click💵 click💵 click 💵, it’s what makes the world go round…, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, NewEra said: He’s been on my wish list every offseason. He’s better than our previous 2nd round picks. I can see why he’s been on your wish list, bro. Look at his stats from 2022. He “totaled 9.5 sacks with the Baltimore Ravens, proving he has some good football left in the tank. He also posted 39 quarterback pressures and a forced fumble. The most impressive part? He did all of that in 14 games and while playing only 44 percent of defensive snaps…” Imagine him and Von on the same field together! Edited May 18, 2023 by BillsFan619 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 I remember during the 2011 NFL draft, I wanted him in the 1st round with a trade back... then he was available in the second, and I was convinced he was going to be the pick, but no. Then amazingly he was there in the 3rd for us to take, and we said 'no' a 3rd time. I still can't believe we passed on him in the 2nd and 3rd round, I thought he was a top 15 talent that draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 15 hours ago, msw2112 said: Houston seems like good fit for the Bills on a short-term deal, if they can come to terms. Obviously, the Bills don't have a lot of cash to spend, but they do present one of the better opportunties to win a championship. I suspect Von Miller won't be ready (or at least not 100%) until later in the season, so this would be a huge help until Miller gets back and having both of them on the field later in the season could cause some major challenges for opposing offenses. This isn't just a "sign him because he's available and we've heard of him" type of deal. This guy is available and could really be a difference maker without breaking the bank. Unfortunately, the bank might already be closed. I don't think that the other two DEs we recently signed would preclude us from signing Houston. Those guys are camp bodies/kicking-the-tires types. Neither is going to be paid much and both are long shots to make the team. Agree they dont preclude us from signing Houston. But I think they have a decent shot of making the roster. Assuming Von is on the PUP to start and they carry 5 DE (how many they carried at times last year) then they just need to beat Kingsley Jonathon. If only 4 DE on active roster then either has to beat out Boogie Basham. I don't think either of them beating Boogie Basham is that much of a long shot let alone Kingsley Jonathon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 19 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: “Houston has played in nine playoff games in his career and has reached the postseason seven times. However, he's never won a Super Bowl. Given that he's at the latter stage of his career, one would imagine that he'd like to check that box off on his résumé, so the Bills would be a good fit in that regard. He'd pair with Von Miller to enhance a strong pass-rushing unit and help Buffalo try to slay a gauntlet of quarterbacks in the AFC.” https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/justin-houston-landing-spots-potential-fits-as-veteran-pass-rusher-reportedly-receiving-significant-interest/ Also, here’s some stats for Houston in 2022. He “totaled 9.5 sacks with the Baltimore Ravens, proving he has some good football left in the tank. He also posted 39 quarterback pressures and a forced fumble. The most impressive part? He did all of that in 14 games and while playing only 44 percent of defensive snaps…” https://buffalowdown.com/posts/buffalo-bills-rumors-bills-tabbed-landing-spot-justin-houston-01h0nh09agdz And he's still rated as a 73 PFF overall. Highest among the common names - Ingram, Quinn, Ngaouke, Clark, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: And he's still rated as a 73 PFF overall. Highest among the common names - Ingram, Quinn, Ngaouke, Clark, etc. would be happy with any of those guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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