HurlyBurly51 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Doesn't impact comp pick formula🥳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Nice signing, stay healthy big man, his availability was the only thing that held him back last season imo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I'm surprised by the money. Must be a big market for DT's this year and/or there was some competition. He was injured a lot last season - but when he was healthy he was a force as a rotational D-Lineman. Hopefully he can stay healthy and make the price worth it. As it stands now, Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle will all be Free Agents next year - which is our entire DT room. So i'd expect to see an extension or two soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'm surprised by the money. Must be a big market for DT's this year and/or there was some competition. He was injured a lot last season - but when he was healthy he was a force as a rotational D-Lineman. Hopefully he can stay healthy and make the price worth it. As it stands now, Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle will all be Free Agents next year - which is our entire DT room. So i'd expect to see an extension or two soon. The details haven’t came out. It could be an up to 3 million deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Feel like he can do great if he just stays healthy. He's a beast some games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Bills are the Oprah Winfrey of 1 year contracts.. KC is even worse. Bills have 36 players under contract next season and the Chiefs have 26. That's after you subtract the void year contracts. Edited March 30, 2023 by ColoradoBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: The details haven’t came out. It could be an up to 3 million deal. Everything I've read said it's worth up to 4.6 with the base seemingly 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, stevewin said: Yep - coach him up to not try to run full speed for long distance 😛 Put an ankle bracelet on him with in-built 1000 volt battery. Set the battery to produce an electric shock when he moves more than ten yards per play. Re-set the timer before every snap. Guaranteed to start come playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Doesn't impact comp pick formula🥳 All that matters! 39 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I'm surprised by the money. Must be a big market for DT's this year and/or there was some competition. He was injured a lot last season - but when he was healthy he was a force as a rotational D-Lineman. Hopefully he can stay healthy and make the price worth it. As it stands now, Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle will all be Free Agents next year - which is our entire DT room. So i'd expect to see an extension or two soon. The DT Market seems to be a lucrative one this season. I'd argue with a 1yr deal, he might have been able to squeeze 5/yr out of someone. Guys like Rankins (1yr $9,750,000) and Rakeem Nunez-Roches (3yr, $12,000,000) got paid well. Jets are about to pay Quinnen Williams big big money. Edited March 30, 2023 by Malazan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 This is like winning a $2 scratch off ticket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: KC is even worse. Bills have 36 players under contract next season and the Chiefs have 26. That's after you subtract the void year I’m sure the Chiefs wouldn’t trade their “problem” for whatever the Bills situation is in 2024. They seem to be managing their contracts/roster/cap just fine the past 5 years……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I’m sure the Chiefs wouldn’t trade their “problem” for whatever the Bills situation is in 2024. They seem to be managing their contracts/roster/cap just fine the past 5 years……. Yes. Get your core players and sign the rest to short contracts. I believe the Bills are moving toward that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Been waiting for this announcement If Big Man can stay healthy, he's a nice piece inside Edited March 30, 2023 by JerseyBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 YES !!! One of my favorite players !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Augie said: You’re no YOLO, but I guess you’ll have to do. 😋 Plot twist, its yolos second account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 There is no better version of Jordan Phillips than contract year Jordan Phillips. I support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Nothing wrong with that at all. Great pass rusher when he’s healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Process said: Hopefully he doesn't put himself on IR diving at air again. Bring back shaq on the cheap too. Then the only hole on defense is MLB and can otherwise go all offense in the draft. HAha to JP and yes please don't hurt yourself doing not football activities. And, yes to Shaq please. I like these two a lot. Especially in a combo of hedging bets. One of them will contribute and well on various weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 A beast when he is healthy...a step up from Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Shaq was better than Boogie, heck Kingsley Jonathan look better than him too. Kingsley did look better than Boogie, what is Kingsley's status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Manther said: Kingsley did look better than Boogie, what is Kingsley's status? He's under contract for 2023 and 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Manther said: Kingsley did look better than Boogie, what is Kingsley's status? Kingsley Jonathan was signed to the roster after the year under a Futures contract. Glad to see him talked about. I have thought that he could make this team as the last Defensive End on the 53 if they decide to not pay Shaq and I don't think he'd bring any less than Epenesa or Basham has. Though I'm still hoping Shaq is brought back under an inexpensive deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I felt like we should have signed him for cheaper 3 mil seams a bit much for a guy with less than 3 sacks. 1.5 seems more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He's under contract for 2023 and 2024. I have high hopes for Kingsley I’m not expecting a star, but someone that can perform well in rotation give him minutes 14 minutes ago, NoName said: I felt like we should have signed him for cheaper 3 mil seams a bit much for a guy with less than 3 sacks. 1.5 seems more reasonable. Your quibbling over like $1 million whenever it doesn’t affect our draft Comp pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryJones Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Bruffalo said: I'll bite. Who are you going to get for 3 million (which is probably incentive heavy) that is better for the scheme? It’s reported at $3M, up to $4.6M. For that money, you can sign 2-3 Taylor Rapp, Damien Harris, Trent Sherfield type players. Jordan Phillips was good back in 2019. We are in 2023 now and he’s missed 19 games the past 3 seasons, while playing half of last year with one arm after trying to be Superman flying to get an elusive Mac Jones. I love that he loves Buffalo, but that’s about it. That when/if healthy people are referencing is a big when/if. They couldn’t add that on to what they were offering OBJ to seal the deal? How’s that affect the ability to pull off a trade for DHop now? They were already up against the cap. This move does not make a lot of sense from my vantage point. Maybe Oliver is on the block and about to get moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Another one Erie County Bulls missed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, HenryJones said: It’s reported at $3M, up to $4.6M. For that money, you can sign 2-3 Taylor Rapp, Damien Harris, Trent Sherfield type players. Um, yeah. But they don’t fill the position need at DT DT market is really hot this off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, HenryJones said: It’s reported at $3M, up to $4.6M. For that money, you can sign 2-3 Taylor Rapp, Damien Harris, Trent Sherfield type players. Jordan Phillips was good back in 2019. We are in 2023 now and he’s missed 19 games the past 3 seasons, while playing half of last year with one arm after trying to be Superman flying to get an elusive Mac Jones. I love that he loves Buffalo, but that’s about it. That when/if healthy people are referencing is a big when/if. They couldn’t add that on to what they were offering OBJ to seal the deal? How’s that affect the ability to pull off a trade for DHop now? They were already up against the cap. This move does not make a lot of sense from my vantage point. Maybe Oliver is on the block and about to get moved. All the Bills have to do to create the cap space sign OBJ or trade for Hopkins is simply convert Dawkins and White's contract into a signing bonus. This creates 12.4 million in cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryJones Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Um, yeah. But they don’t fill the position need at DT DT market is really hot this off season They have 6 draft picks… Whose to say one of the 2-3 players wouldn’t had been a different DT, that can an actually stay healthy? It’ll be interesting to hear Calais Campbell’s number. If the money is the same, I’d rather have him. 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: All the Bills have to do to create the cap space sign OBJ or trade for Hopkins is simply convert Dawkins and White's contract into a signing bonus. This creates 12.4 million in cap space. True, but then you push money/commitment down the road on those two when both of them just had subpar years in comparison to when they signed those lucrative deals. I feel like Beane hasn’t pulled that lever (yet, at least) for that specific reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, HenryJones said: True, but then you push money/commitment down the road on those two when both of them just had subpar years in comparison to when they signed those lucrative deals. I feel like Beane hasn’t pulled that lever (yet, at least) for that specific reason. True but it may only take one restructure to get it done. Extending players like Daquan Jones and/or Taron Johnson are also options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, NoName said: I felt like we should have signed him for cheaper 3 mil seams a bit much for a guy with less than 3 sacks. 1.5 seems more reasonable. Are you really mad over a million dollar difference in a contract? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryJones Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: True but it may only take one restructure to get it done. Extending players like Daquan Jones and/or Taron Johnson are also options. I would rather they extend Daquan and Taron, before restructuring Dion or Tre. I know they have options to free money up, but think they are overpaying for what Jordan Phillips is and brings to them. Based on the last 3 years, he’ll get them about half a season and a sack per million. I hope I’m wrong and he has 9.5 sacks this year, but I’m skeptical of that happening. I wonder if anyone else was offering him $3m+. It sounds like they may have offered Shaq near the vet min, from some twitter noise I had seen. I’d be disappointed, if I were him. He was much more valuable to us last season than 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, HenryJones said: I would rather they extend Daquan and Taron, before restructuring Dion or Tre. I know they have options to free money up, but think they are overpaying for what Jordan Phillips is and brings to them. Based on the last 3 years, he’ll get them about half a season and a sack per million. I hope I’m wrong and he has 9.5 sacks this year, but I’m skeptical of that happening. I wonder if anyone else was offering him $3m+. It sounds like they may have offered Shaq near the vet min, from some twitter noise I had seen. I’d be disappointed, if I were him. He was much more valuable to us last season than 97. That 9.5 sacks was an anomaly as the Cardinals found out after giving him that 10 million a year contract. His upside if he stays healthy is worth the three million guaranteed risk imo as he's a big body who can get after the passer as a rotational piece in this defense. He wasn't my first choice as I would've preferred Campbell or Poona Ford but they may have been out of Beane's price range. I still think we add to the DT room in the draft but it's not as glaring as a need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Kingsley Jonathan was signed to the roster after the year under a Futures contract. Glad to see him talked about. I have thought that he could make this team as the last Defensive End on the 53 if they decide to not pay Shaq and I don't think he'd bring any less than Epenesa or Basham has. Though I'm still hoping Shaq is brought back under an inexpensive deal. Jonathan definitely has some burst and bend off the edge. Intriguing player. I think there is a lot of rough edges. Against the Bears he was either making a play or not even lining up in the right spot and there wasn't much in between! But I'm glad the Bills are going to try and develop him. He was the #1 overall pick in the CFL draft, he isn't without talent. Just a lot of teaching to do to turn him into a bona fide NFL player. 4 hours ago, HenryJones said: I would rather they extend Daquan and Taron, before restructuring Dion or Tre. I know they have options to free money up, but think they are overpaying for what Jordan Phillips is and brings to them. Based on the last 3 years, he’ll get them about half a season and a sack per million. I hope I’m wrong and he has 9.5 sacks this year, but I’m skeptical of that happening. I wonder if anyone else was offering him $3m+. It sounds like they may have offered Shaq near the vet min, from some twitter noise I had seen. I’d be disappointed, if I were him. He was much more valuable to us last season than 97. Agree with almost all of this, except I don't think they should rush to extend Daquan. He was excellent for us last year but he will be 32 by the time he hits FA after next season, and he didn't have a huge market when he was 30 so I think they are right to take their time and let it play out with him. If they want him back after 2023 I am sure they will be able to make it happen. But they should be conscious "the wall" can't be super far away for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, HenryJones said: It’s reported at $3M, up to $4.6M. For that money, you can sign 2-3 Taylor Rapp, Damien Harris, Trent Sherfield type players. Jordan Phillips was good back in 2019. We are in 2023 now and he’s missed 19 games the past 3 seasons, while playing half of last year with one arm after trying to be Superman flying to get an elusive Mac Jones. I love that he loves Buffalo, but that’s about it. That when/if healthy people are referencing is a big when/if. They couldn’t add that on to what they were offering OBJ to seal the deal? How’s that affect the ability to pull off a trade for DHop now? They were already up against the cap. This move does not make a lot of sense from my vantage point. Maybe Oliver is on the block and about to get moved. what DT are you getting for $3m? This move won’t mean squat in relation to what happens to Hopkins… that ship may have already sailed… Edited March 30, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: what DT are you getting for $3m? This move won’t mean squat in relation to what happens to Hopkins… that ship may have already sailed… I could have been had for a lot cheaper then that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I'm glad he is resigned. When healthy, he brings a lot of juice on the D-line. .... Does this open the door for a Oliver trade??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CSBill said: I'm glad he is resigned. When healthy, he brings a lot of juice on the D-line. .... Does this open the door for an Oliver trade??? We currently have the exact same 4 man rotation at DT as last year, so likely no impact on Oliver. Bills need a pass rusher now. Hopefully they can find a cheap veteran. Edited March 30, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We currently have the exact same 4 man rotation at DT as last year, so likely no impact on Oliver. Bills need a pass rusher now. Hopefully they can find a cheap veteran. A cheap vet will likely beat Oliver out of a job 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We currently have the exact same 4 man rotation at DT as last year, so likely no impact on Oliver. Bills need a pass rusher now. Hopefully they can find a cheap veteran. Exactly, enough with yhe 1-3rs round failures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said: A cheap vet will likely beat Oliver out of a job We need a veteran edge player. Justin Houston would be great. Won’t affect Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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