Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Lost said: I want WR stretching speed at wr2. Not a 5'6 slot guy that we already have a room full of. This guy likely isn't WR2....but he has field stretching speed and can lineup in the slot or out wide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 There was some stat that the bills had the smallest receiving corps in football by a wide margin this doesn’t help matters any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 53 minutes ago, RG Murdock said: No thanks. No big difference between this guy and McKenzie. McKenzie wasn't used right last year. Good locker room guy. Hopefully this is fake. Beane needs to start stepping up. Good impactful LB's, OT's, and WR's are dropping off the available FA list hourly. Right now, Bills are no better than 3rd place in the AFC East. Hopefully Poyer is retained. Can't lose both TE and GP. No replacements will be as good as those two. Wake up Beane. everyone cries we dont invest on offense, our slot sucks etc etc.... we go get a young up and comer 4.3 guy, cost a million to upgrade over mck (whos gone), and people want to cry about defense now lol this place sucks sometimes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: My biggest concern with this signing is the offense last year essentially ZERO horizontal routes. The shallow cross was almost non-existent. Can/will Dorsey properly utilize Deonte? Buffalo needs to feature a better pass blocking OL to run that sort of passing game. McGovern looks to be supporting that strategy. They were limited last season because for some reason McBeane wanted a mauling OL to run the ball with Josh. It was poorly aligned...looks like last season (and it's early) taught them they were backa$$wards on offense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said: They need to get bigger, stronger and tougher. Their AFCE rivals are making real moves, signing junior high school- sized players probably won’t cut it. Replacing Lil Dirty with a Littler Dirty seems counter-productive, seeing he just didn’t work here. What do I know though? Im, perhaps wrongly, assuming that the Bills still have a plan for WR2. If they do.. Spending an extra 1.5M this year to replace McKenzie with a risk/reward guy who could boom in this offense is the type of move I hope Beane is always willing to make. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lost said: I want WR stretching speed at wr2. Not a 5'6 slot guy that we already have a room full of. I'd prefer a WR2 that is a bigger red zone target, kind of like Metcalf. So, opinions vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: see he made pro bowl as a returner, have to assume thats as punt returner? think he starts? (cant remember if hines was just KR or PR too?) Yeah; pro bowl as a returner. I think he’s our starting slot WR and punt returner. That’s what the contract tells me. He and Shakir should be competing for snaps in the slot. I like both players and now think we’re set inside. Just need an outside guy. to compete with Gabe. Harty has the rare speed and explosion that Beane has been drooling over. Sure, it would’ve been nice if that speed were in a bigger body, but then it costs a lot more. Now it’s up to Dorsey to use the speed and get him into space. I’m more worried about Dorsey than I am paying a midget 5M 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Another one. Folks have lost their damned minds. Their initials should be HM and not RG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Perk71 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 52 minutes ago, Process said: He's 5 foot 6 and was undrafted out of college. Has done nothing in his career. Zero reason to be believe there is much potential there. $3.7M cap hit is crazy. He seems like a minimum salary type of guy. Believe in the process, Process 🤙🏼 Go Bills!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 54 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Talk us off the ledge?? Seriously people?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: And, this guy has demonstrated that? Legit question, I don’t know a thing about him. Yep. Don’t have a link but WGR was discussing how he had some top 5-20 stats in separation/missed tackles/YAC from 2021. Plus he caught some deep bombs. Missed last year with turf toe injury which WGR’s guest said is an injury not usually concerning for re-injury in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 mini tyreek 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Harty/Harris had a better year than McKenzie has ever had in 2021 with nobodies throwing him the ball. I am guessing they believe he has more to offer than what they have gotten out of him and in an offense like the Bills he will get the chance to show it. Likely an analytics based signing. He also was 6th in the NFL in separation per route run in 2021 only behind marquee elite players. Bills are banking on that to come out more with them. No problem. I hope you and the Bills are right. I just reacted on you saying that I am trying to find out something to be upset about. I am the direct opposite, so it hurts me when people say it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 How many slot receivers do we need? McKenzie, Crowder, Shakir, Hines? This better not be the big move at WR that Beane is making this offseason. I was perfectly happy handing the slot position over to Shakir full time. We need WR2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 He forced 13 missed tackles on just 20 catches. Kind of addresses how we're near the bottom of the league in YAC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: It would be nice for Josh to not have to run around like a chicken with his head cut off ever other play trying to find little guys who are working to get open. Having a big, SUREHANDED guy go up and get it creating faith in JA that he can…..What is not to like about that? Sure, that's great. Who's that guy? You want em to sign Julio Jones or N'Keal Harry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: There was some stat that the bills had the smallest receiving corps in football by a wide margin this doesn’t help matters any If Harty replaces McKenzie, he will be the only Bills WR under 6 foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: Much better than the initial reports of $13M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Lost said: How many slot receivers do we need? McKenzie, Crowder, Shakir, Hines? This better not be the big move at WR that Beane is making this offseason. I was perfectly happy handing the slot position over to Shakir full time. We need WR2 McKenzie and Crowder may get released and Hines is a RB Edited March 15, 2023 by nucci 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, NewEra said: “ we need playmakers”. “We need speed”. “We need a slot WR”. “Beane neglects offense”. Bills sign a playmaking slot WR (that can also make contested catches) with blazing speed: “why’d we pay him so much?” 🤦🏻♂️ I like the signing because we obviously need more legit weapons, but my only question is what's going on with Shakir? I was hoping this year he was going to take over the slot role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well Beane is 1-1 I loved the Connor Mcgivern signing… this one is a head scratcher and serves no purpose at all as Isiah McKenzie is the same exact player i cant comprehend why anyone thinks mck is staying after this year? weve seen his ceiling, hes at it. his hands suck, he has no feel for finding soft spots in the defense, we think this guy could break out. are we supposed to never sign a fast slot again because lil dirty didnt pan out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, nucci said: McKenzie and Crowder may get release and Hines is a RB I thought part of the reason they signed Hines was to utilize him in the slot position on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Lost said: How many slot receivers do we need? McKenzie, Crowder, Shakir, Hines? This better not be the big move at WR that Beane is making this offseason. I was perfectly happy handing the slot position over to Shakir full time. We need WR2 Why are fans doing this? Crowder is not on the team. Mckenzie will not make the team. Hines is a RB/KR. Shakir plays inside and out. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Billz4ever said: I like the signing because we obviously need more legit weapons, but my only question is what's going on with Shakir? I was hoping this year he was going to take over the slot role. I think Shakir can run routes all over the field. He's quick, has great hands, and could compete for the number 2 slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, nucci said: stop worrying about the contract and concentrate on the player Ok, so what about his size? Along with JJ Taylor and Boston Scott (I never heard of them, either), Harty is the shortest player in the NFL at 5'6". Even Beasley is 5'8". And at 170 pounds, you can tackle him with two fingers. I'm not saying signing him is a bad move, necessarily. But his size makes it a risky one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Lost said: I thought part of the reason they signed Hines was to utilize him in the slot position on occasion. on occasion but not all the time. Now with Harty and Shakir maybe not needed as much and can stay a receiving RB...just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Sure, that's great. Who's that guy? You want em to sign Julio Jones or N'Keal Harry? Back to, I’m not the GM. But, creating some easy large catch radius opportunities for Josh is something I’d like to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, finn said: Ok, so what about his size? Along with JJ Taylor and Boston Scott (I never heard of them, either), Harty is the shortest player in the NFL at 5'6". Even Beasley is 5'8". And at 170 pounds, you can tackle him with two fingers. I'm not saying signing him is a bad move, necessarily. But his size makes it a risky one. yep, good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Brandon said: I guess I'll have to trust the scouting department on this one, but still...yikes. You will huh, ... LOL I can't believe that this signing is even a discussion. I don't see how this helps either Beane or McD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TOboy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lost said: How many slot receivers do we need? McKenzie, Crowder, Shakir, Hines? This better not be the big move at WR that Beane is making this offseason. I was perfectly happy handing the slot position over to Shakir full time. We need WR2 We need ALL of them! But seriously, they’ve talked about improving YAC for a couple of seasons now. This guy is explosive and should help in that area. Lil’Dirty may be gone, Crowder may already be gone (not sure?), and Shakir can still force his way on the field. I’m hoping they still make a splash at WR2, but it’s possible they still believe in Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Sean, got ya another gadget guy. Great Brandon, put him over there on the pile w/ Mackenzie, Hines & Shakir who we aren't using. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: You will huh, ... LOL I can't believe that this signing is even a discussion. I don't see how this helps either Beane or McD. Maybe I’m wrong, but if this means McKenzie gets cut … just view this move as replacing 2.5M McKenzie with 3.7M Harty. Bills paying an extra 1M for a guy they think could boom in our offense. McKenzie had his chance and it didn’t exactly work out. If they don’t address WR2, then my entire view of this signing changes. However, I think we will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: Back to, I’m not the GM. But, creating some easy large catch radius opportunities for Josh is something I’d like to see. If only he had a big, fast TE... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: You will huh, ... LOL I can't believe that this signing is even a discussion. I don't see how this helps either Beane or McD. At the time, I didn't know anything about him...good or bad. As I learn more and watch some of his plays with the Saints, I think this is very likely an upgrade over McKenzie and, assuming that McKenzie is released, the net cost isn't much, about +$1.5M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 He has more single season highlights than McKettrick has career highlights! Buh-bye, lil filthy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 This guy moves better than Isiah, catches better than Gabe, and can actually run a route well. I expect him to do very well this season if Allen learns to trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So basically, If he plays he gets open! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 For what it's worth, Saints fans seemed to love this guy when healthy (at least that's what I've seen so far). I think this actually takes WR off the table for the 1st few rounds, which isn't a bad thing. Shakir can compete for WR2, and I think they still have some faith Davis can get back to the potential we saw in '21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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