CapeBreton Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Everything is fine, Bills just spent a premium pick on Terrel Bernard who appears to be useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I think if all he cares about is money, he will find someone willing to pay stupidly uhh I mean handsomely Or if he cares about blitzing and being aggressive on defense, finding a better fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ah yes, the old "We didnt win a Championship with him, so he must not be worth keeping" line of logic that was so pervasive during the drought years. We also won 3 playoff games with him before those losses as well. I'd argue he was 1 of maybe 3 or 4 players that actually showed up to play against the Bengals. But the rest of the team ***** the bed so therefore he isnt worth keeping. Got it. I didn't make that made up argument you pretended I made. I was simply asking how integral he was and how you easily concluded it would be entirely different without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I didn't make that made up argument you pretended I made. I was simply asking how integral he was and how you easily concluded it would be entirely different without him. Rewatch the Vikings game and see how different our Defense looked in the 1st half vs after he went out in the 2nd half for a good example of how integral he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Klien at $2M >>>>>>>>>> Edmunds at $18M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Y'all got any of those Nick Bolton's out there? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Anything is possible but it sounds like we have seen the end of Edmunds' career as a Bill. Which leaves more room to build the offense. I’d certainly rather those resources get poured into the offense, but I think the Bills are probably going to re-sign Edmunds. Maybe some team gets stupid with a contract offer and the Bills bow out, but I think they value him greatly - IMO probably a lot more than he’s really worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Negan said: Y'all got any of those Nick Bolton's out there? Every draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: I think if all he cares about is money, he will find someone willing to pay stupidly uhh I mean handsomely I'm guessing Cowboys or the Steelers, probably the former most likely to pay stupidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Not surprised. I wasn’t actively rooting against him re-signing with the Bills, but I suspected he’d be gone. We have other pressing needs and he just doesn’t move the needle in the W column enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Far better than allocating huge money to a MLB that doesn't help us in the playoffs. They need to allocate more resources on offense...it's the way of the league. McD needs to stop worrying about trying to field a top 5 D every year and shortchanging the offense because of it. The rules favor the offense, use it to your advantage, The D just needs to be middle of the pack, not great. There’s some truth to what you’re saying..but on the other hand he’s still pretty young and coming off maybe his best year. Starter, captain etc. I don’t wanna hear it from anyone if the defense takes a dip without him next year. The meltdown will be epic here if mcd drafts a mlb early on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 This is very, very bad news for anyone who wants a real investment on offense. Edmunds is a pretty good LB, but will he command elite $$? To anyone celebrating him leaving, expect yet another 1st round defense draft pick. Either S, LB, or good old DL. WR after round 4. OL we can do without because Allen can always run for his life, which is an "advantage" for us and part of his skillet apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: There’s some truth to what you’re saying..but on the other hand he’s still pretty young and coming off maybe his best year. Starter, captain etc. I don’t wanna hear it from anyone if the defense takes a dip without him next year. The meltdown will be epic here if mcd drafts a mlb early on The defense is going to take a dip regardless most likely...defense is less consistent year to year than offense is. That's why you allocate more resources to the offense...it's more consistent year to year and the rules favor it. It should not be rocket science for Beane...McD is likely trying to swim upstream since he coaches D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: This is very, very bad news for anyone who wants a real investment on offense. Edmunds is a pretty good LB, but will he command elite $$? To anyone celebrating him leaving, expect yet another 1st round defense draft pick. Either S, LB, or good old DL. WR after round 4. OL we can do without because Allen can always run for his life, which is an "advantage" for us and part of his skillet apparently. Well maybe McDermott learned during the super bowl that defense don't win Championships anymore, we can pray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Nice player and the thought process in his selection made a lot of sense. He also does a lot for the defense and is an integral part. However, there is no reason to think that guys like Pratt, Tranquill, Deion Jones, Anthony Walker Jr. couldn't do a lot of the same things that Tremaine can do. What makes him a unicorn is his size and length, but a smaller guy can make up the difference with better instincts and coverage skills. Trenton Simpson, Jack Campbell could be draft replacements. Drew Sanders is a similar type of unicorn. There are options. Edmenunds is not as a good as they projected him to be. It's a bit of a swing and a miss. He is a solid linebacker and I would love to have him back, but I don't think that he will be overly difficult to replace. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Bears, Texans, Giants, Raiders all have a huge need there and have a ton of cap space. I have my money on the Bears or Texans. I live in the Chicago area. Many of the Bears fans I know really want Edmunds, they think he'd be an upgrade from Roquan Smith. I warned them it could end up like how Bills fans felt after taking Jauron off their hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Or if he cares about blitzing and being aggressive on defense, finding a better fit When Edmunds does blitz, he runs toward & right into a blocker. Anybody ever tell him that’s not how you blitz? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Negan said: Y'all got any of those Nick Bolton's out there? His name is Jack Campbell! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: Everything is fine, Bills just spent a premium pick on Terrel Bernard who appears to be useless. Well they drafted a LB on a defense that plays 2 LBs that never come off the field. What do you expect? It was concerning that they had to bring back Klein. I won’t be surprised if they go with Bernard as a starter next year. Another option is Shaq Thompson once he’s released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I feel like I heard this a lot about Milano in the early part of the 2021 offseason as well, and then he signed with the Bills. I dont think Edmunds is gone yet. Milano is and was always the better player at his position. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, dpberr said: I don't see any of these players being on the 2023 team. That would be 36 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Rewatch the Vikings game and see how different our Defense looked in the 1st half vs after he went out in the 2nd half for a good example of how integral he is. Bills go into next year with the following players on Defense: Von Miller Daquan Jones Greg Rousseau Matt Milano Taron Johnson Tre’Davious White Kaiir Elam Micah Hyde Figure it out. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 So we can expect our first round draft pick to be defense again…just great 👎😡🤬 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jerry Jabber said: So we can expect our first round draft pick to be defense again…just great 👎😡🤬 Bump when Shaq Thompson signs here this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, Success said: We will miss him quite a bit if he leaves. He's not irreplaceable - but he is one of the leaders & playmakers on D. It adds one more thing to Beane's list if he moves on. Strongly disagree with that word being used to describe Tremaine. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, UConn James said: When Edmunds does blitz, he runs toward & right into a blocker. Anybody ever tell him that’s not how you blitz? Knowing this coaching staff probably not. It's sad seeing Maine leave but I get it and I’m sure just as many players question the coaching staff & FO just as much as posters, they just can't make it publically known. The players have the option of going to another team, the fans don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: His name is Jack Campbell! Supposed to go mid third round........C'mon Beane ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He can't be expected to be paid as an adult. Yeah, it all goes into a Trust Fund until he reaches the appropriate age.😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Bills go into next year with the following players on Defense: Von Miller Daquan Jones Greg Rousseau Matt Milano Taron Johnson Tre’Davious White Kaiir Elam Micah Hyde Figure it out. Yup. That's a lot of good players. Enough for a solid D. Fill in the gaps with the cheapest players possible. I have zero interest in having an "elite" defense. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: That would be 36 million. All of them are FAs and are not counted against this year's cap unless they sign new contracts. Bills are $20M over no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Another thing this report tells me, is that the Bills may actually do some unexpected stuff this off-season. I would NEVER have thought I’d see that tweet referenced by the OP, re: Tremaine. Gives some hope for those of us also begging them to trade Oliver and really transform the Offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 I feel like our first step to becoming a better defense is going in a different direction at LB. Go get the next Spikes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: So much for the drunk uncle's best friend's kids daughter in law with the inside scoop! Well, sure, now that this flannel mouthed bunch leaked the rumour! 🤨😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I thought he was 12? When we drafted him maybe. 5 year contract = 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s likely gone then. I know Milano did the same and signed back but Edmunds is going to get $20 million per year. Calling it now, he’s going to get less than 20. Spotrac’s contract estimate wasn’t some gross electronic error. Edmunds is a specialized player that hasn’t been asked to be a traditional LB since Frazier became DC. Teams can hope he’ll become one but they’re not going to pay for hopes in advance. They’re going to merely outbid the highest bidder if they’re sold on him. With our luck, watch him sign for something just out of our reach like 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, dpberr said: I don't see any of these players being on the 2023 team. Sadly, I agree on all, except Phillips. I can see him returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Resources to offense please. Psst! Got here a 5'7" 165 lb. LB that bench presses Buicks (1969 LeSabre) and runs the 40 in 4.31. How can you say 'no' to him?! 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 He’s not as good as his supporters think. And he’s not as bad as his detractors think. We’ll miss him. But he’s not worth a cap hit greater than Milano’s charge. And, even if we had him at that number, he’s probably not worth keeping around with Milano and investing $20m in off-ball linebackers. I’d rather hire cost-effective replacement labor and sink the savings into the offensive side of the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, benderbender said: Calling it now, he’s going to get less than 20. Spotrac’s contract estimate wasn’t some gross electronic error. Edmunds is a specialized player that hasn’t been asked to be a traditional LB since Frazier became DC. Teams can hope he’ll become one but they’re not going to pay for hopes in advance. They’re going to merely outbid the highest bidder if they’re sold on him. With our luck, watch him sign for something just out of our reach like 16. What he does is what every defense is looking for. He’s a huge athletic MLB that plays every single snap on a top defense and still is considered to have upside. He’s going to get #1 LB money on the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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