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36 minutes ago, McBean said:

A bright offensive minded head coach to maximize a once in a generation talent that happens to be on our team…Josh Allen.

 

Philly fired a Super Bowl winning HC 2 years after and now in the Super Bowl with an offensive minded guy.

 

Get somebody in here that values our QB, understands the importance of building around our star, and develops here yearly.


Give me a name. 

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6 minutes ago, Bangarang said:


Give me a name. 

Kellen Moore, Shane Steichen, Brian Callahan, Bill O’Brien, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson.

 

College wildcards: Lincoln Riley (unlikely but could call), Josh Heupel, Todd Monken.

 

I truly don’t think fans realize the talent OUR QB has. He’s being asked to drive a Toyota Camry in the Indy 500 due to the main guy over this organization (Sean McDermott’s) inability to coach, lack of value he places on offense, and his horrible in game management.

 

Cincy- Zac Taylor

KC- Andy Reid

Philly- Sirianni

San Fran- Shannahan 

 

Rams last year- McVay

Tampa 2020- Arians


Get it yet? Offensive head coaches. We need an innovative OFFENSIVE coach.

 

Bottom line, it was tragic we let Brian Daboll leave the dang building. Sad!

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48 minutes ago, McBean said:

Kellen Moore, Shane Steichen, Brian Callahan, Bill O’Brien, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson.

 

College wildcards: Lincoln Riley (unlikely but could call), Josh Heupel, Todd Monken.

 

I truly don’t think fans realize the talent OUR QB has. He’s being asked to drive a Toyota Camry in the Indy 500 due to the main guy over this organization (Sean McDermott’s) inability to coach, lack of value he places on offense, and his horrible in game management.

 

Cincy- Zac Taylor

KC- Andy Reid

Philly- Sirianni

San Fran- Shannahan 

 

Rams last year- McVay

Tampa 2020- Arians


Get it yet? Offensive head coaches. We need an innovative OFFENSIVE coach.

 

Bottom line, it was tragic we let Brian Daboll leave the dang building. Sad!

  S*** p*** a** out

 

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57 minutes ago, McBean said:

Kellen Moore, Shane Steichen, Brian Callahan, Bill O’Brien, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson.

 

College wildcards: Lincoln Riley (unlikely but could call), Josh Heupel, Todd Monken.

 

I truly don’t think fans realize the talent OUR QB has. He’s being asked to drive a Toyota Camry in the Indy 500 due to the main guy over this organization (Sean McDermott’s) inability to coach, lack of value he places on offense, and his horrible in game management.

 

Cincy- Zac Taylor

KC- Andy Reid

Philly- Sirianni

San Fran- Shannahan 

 

Rams last year- McVay

Tampa 2020- Arians


Get it yet? Offensive head coaches. We need an innovative OFFENSIVE coach.

 

Bottom line, it was tragic we let Brian Daboll leave the dang building. Sad!


What a sad list except for maybe Ben Johnson.
 

Kellen Moore LOL

Jim Harbaugh…what a young and bright offensive mind. 
Todd Monken? What year is it?

 

So basically, your issue seems to mostly be about Dorsey considering guys like Reid have been criticized for the longest time for their clock management and in game decisions.

 

It all comes down to talent. You can have the brightest offensive mind around but your talent isn’t all that great then there’s only so much you can do. We have Allen, Diggs and that’s really it for elite players on offense. Kellen Moore isn’t going to fix anything.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Bangarang said:


What a sad list except for maybe Ben Johnson.
 

Kellen Moore LOL

Jim Harbaugh…what a young and bright offensive mind. 
Todd Monken? What year is it?

 

So basically, your issue seems to mostly be about Dorsey considering guys like Reid have been criticized for the longest time for their clock management and in game decisions.

 

It all comes down to talent. You can have the brightest offensive mind around but your talent isn’t all that great then there’s only so much you can do. We have Allen, Diggs and that’s really it for elite players on offense. Kellen Moore isn’t going to fix anything.

 

 

Agreed our talent sucks on offense.

 

Can’t argue there.

 

It stems from our HC who is too stubborn to draft that side of ball.

 

Yes, I believe McDermott has more power than Beane.

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We are still several games better than everyone in our division. People are jumping the gun to crown the Dolphins when they don't have a QB ,Tua is Push away from retiring due to the numerous concussions. We still had the 2nd Best Defense in the league even with ALL the injuries ..Give Frazier his respect.

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2 hours ago, McBean said:

Kellen Moore, Shane Steichen, Brian Callahan, Bill O’Brien, Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson.

 

College wildcards: Lincoln Riley (unlikely but could call), Josh Heupel, Todd Monken.

 

I truly don’t think fans realize the talent OUR QB has. He’s being asked to drive a Toyota Camry in the Indy 500 due to the main guy over this organization (Sean McDermott’s) inability to coach, lack of value he places on offense, and his horrible in game management.

 

Cincy- Zac Taylor

KC- Andy Reid

Philly- Sirianni

San Fran- Shannahan 

 

Rams last year- McVay

Tampa 2020- Arians


Get it yet? Offensive head coaches. We need an innovative OFFENSIVE coach.

 

Bottom line, it was tragic we let Brian Daboll leave the dang building. Sad!


McVay is a bum.  Flash in the pan.  Goff got better without him.  3 wins with Stafford this year.  

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18 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 


Fangio has a good defense in Denver in 2020… look up what happened when Buffalo played in Denver.

 

Don’t get me wrong this is a good hire by Miami.  I just don’t think it’s as bleak as some of you make it out to be

1 hour ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I'm kind of meh about this.  Yes he's a good coach but I think the defense overperformed last year.Does anybody know if they have to switch their defensive front?  Fangio does a 3-4 primarily correct?


We know all too well that when you switch DC’s, the change doesn’t always happen overnight

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18 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Dolphins with Brady would win the division. They might even do it with Tua if he stays healthy 

I’m in the camp of hoping

 

rhe dolphins take brady

jets take Rodgers 

 

they are on the backside of their careers and just don’t see them much of a difference maker 

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Watch what Miami does at the QB position.  The latest was that they are NOT going to pursue Brady.

 

But what about Lamar?  Miami may be a real problem for us next year.

 

Our division is going to get really tough soon; I'm waiting for Rodgers to go to the Jets.

 

 

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14 hours ago, Cuboirs said:

We are still several games better than everyone in our division. 

 

I'm not sure how we can think that.

 

Dolphins beat us once in the regular season, and took us down to the wire in the playoffs with a 3rd string QB.

 

And now they just improved their defensive coaching considerably.

 

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21 hours ago, Chas56 said:

Brady and Rodgers are like milk that is past its use by date. Yeah, you can drink it, but any day it’s gonna go sour.

 

That's like McDermott

21 hours ago, Eastport bills said:

I wanted Fangio and now we have to crap the bed to be rid of Frazier. This is one of my knocks on Sean and Beane. They have a blind spot for coordinators that aren’t getting it done. How many years do we have to watch Frazier be out coached in the playoffs.? How long do we have to endure poor O-line play? The safety coach was fired but why was he hired?

 

McDermott is the problem. The defensive coordinator is an extension of him. 

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3 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

That's like McDermott

 

McDermott is the problem. The defensive coordinator is an extension of him. 

How can we move off him if he’s tied to the GM and ownership at the hip. His supporters will say he wins divisions and keeps the fan base engaged. With a new stadium on the horizon and the value of the franchise growing diametrically , do you think the Pegula’s are demanding SBs? I doubt it.

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23 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

 

I can only hypothesize that this FO and coaching staff look at the Miami game against Skylar Thompson and the drubbing at the hands of the Bengals as flukes if they are content with running it back with the same coaches outside of firing the friggin' Safeties coach.

 

Which does go counter to what Beane said in his presser, where he said the Bengals have passed us up.  OK, so what are you going to do about it then?  Does he think it's simply a matter of not having the right players?

That’s exactly what this regime believes it’s the players fault not there schemes or philosophies the players. 

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To be clear, I have always liked Nick Fangio
 

One of the things that you have to consider when making a change to your coordinator is, do you have the horses to run their defense

 

This is especially true on defense we cannot afford to lose Josh Allen years while we retool our defense we need to keep getting good players in the draft that match what we’re doing

 

I would like to see a Defense that incorporates press man coverage against certain teams

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On 1/29/2023 at 11:40 AM, Billz4ever said:

 

I can only hypothesize that this FO and coaching staff look at the Miami game against Skylar Thompson and the drubbing at the hands of the Bengals as flukes if they are content with running it back with the same coaches outside of firing the friggin' Safeties coach.

 

Which does go counter to what Beane said in his presser, where he said the Bengals have passed us up.  OK, so what are you going to do about it then?  Does he think it's simply a matter of not having the right players?

 

I found that presser to be a bit confusing.

 

I agree that knee-jerk reactions rarely produce good outcomes, but our team keeps stalling in the playoffs.

 

It is either coaching or players. If it is not the coaching then is Beane saying he has not brought in the right players?

 

I have to allow that it is likely performance gaps with both players and coaches.

 

Perhaps it is just too early to unpack, but the time to evaluate coaches and consider upgrades would be now when there is a lot of FO turnover and guys are looking for their next gig.

 

I never thought hope was a good strategy, but feels like we are heading for a rinse and repeat where OBD hopes something falls better our way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

I found that presser to be a bit confusing.

 

I agree that knee-jerk reactions rarely produce good outcomes, but our team keeps stalling in the playoffs.

 

It is either coaching or players. If it is not the coaching then is Beane saying he has not brought in the right players?

 

Perhaps it is just too early to unpack, but the time to evaluate coaches and consider upgrades would be now when there is a lot of FO turnover and guys are looking for their next gig.

 

I never thought hope was a good strategy, but feels like we are heading for a rinse and repeat where OBD hopes something falls better our way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, if all the same coaches are returning sans the Safeties Coach, then logic says they think it's all the players.  But as he also said, they've got problems with the cap, so getting the right players is going to have to come from the draft.  He's going to have to have one phenomenal draft is all I've got to say. Going to have to have more success than he's had on a lot of picks that haven't produced many impact players on this team outside of Allen (jury is still out on last year's draft class).

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Whoa...maybe not so fast...

 

Fangio saying "nothing has been decided on my end" and reports are that he is eyeing a job with the 49ers since he has a good relationship with Shanahan, his long time GF works there and there is a good chance of a job opening with Ryans supposedly the top candidate for the Texans job...

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/vic-fangio-might-not-joining-140039677.html

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