1/15/2023 Wildcard Weekend - Dolphins @ Bills - Post Game Thread

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, CSBill said:

We did get 25 first downs and out gained them by 200 yards. Hmmm?

And when we needed to be able to move the ball late in the game, we had two straight drives of John Madden football, just chucking it 50 yards downfield.

[78thealltimegreat]

12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Over the last 7 regular season games Josh had 4 ints.  Burrow had 6.  Burrow had 2 less ints on the season than Josh.

Patrick wasn’t far behind either when you have QBs who are threat to score any play anywhere on the field this happens…game manager types only work if you have tremendous  talent elsewhere the Bills other then Steff Diggs don’t. 

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I’ll clue you in. Bills -1.5 is the Bills being favored. 🤦‍♂️

Correct. I responded to a post that said the Bills wouldn't be favored at home.

[947]

I've overcome the disappointment & relief has set in. One thing still makes me sick to my stomach:

 

How did Josh not even see the CB blitz coming up on the strip-sack-TD? He walked up pre-snap & was completely ignored.

[jcamm1966]

Could be worse we could have Minn defense

[Maine-iac]

Just now, nedboy7 said:

How can JA be the biggest problem with this team.  This is maddening.  Dorsey a close second. 

JA is a race car and sometimes you need to trailer the race car because you're just going to get groceries.  We could have saved the big passes for 3rd and long or inside 2 minutes of the half and just let the running game and used some passing like the Morris catch and pummeled the Phish into submission.

[Goin Breakdown]

15 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

🎶 Bills make me wanna  ...

Crap my pants 

Punch a wall

[Jeffbigalls]

Bengals at Bills (buffalo was -2.5 on the road , would suggest buffalo -3.5 to 4.5)

 

If they play Jacksonville -7 +

[TheFunPolice]

We need more quick release type passes.

 

It's either a run or a 20+ yard pass.

 

We need some easy timing passes 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

How did you make it to halftime - I did too but we deserve a medal 

I drank nothing but water all game. I did have to turn it off for a while.

[Tulsabillsfanz]

This was a horrible game to watch, especially after we led 17-0. It was 4 hours of stress. It seemed everything was pointing to an upset loss for us: terribly timed timeouts by us, multiple uncalled Miami delay of game, then delay of game called when we stopped them, big pass plays overturned, etc.  We just couldn’t seem to catch a break all game, until that final first down call.    But, a win is all that counts in the playoffs! 

[Starr Almighty]

 

 

 

[AuntieEm]

31 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Games. Every game is struggle.

 

   Indeed.  Next week if it's Bengals that game will be decided that day by the players that play and how they perform then not on today or last years playoff games.  If Josh plays mistake free and our defense gets the turnovers maybe Bengals get throttled and get sent back to their jungle to try again next year.   Sure sets up some extra drama  and rivalry between two of the better teams in the AFC.  I would love to see them blow the Bengals out and leaving no doubt who's the better team.  If they win 11-10 I'll accept it too. 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

Just now, Pokebball said:

Correct. I responded to a post that said the Bills wouldn't be favored at home.

Oh, my bad, you quoted my post though.  Guess I was just confused is all. 👍 

[billybob71]

i get not blitzing burrow or mahomes they will burn you, but a 3rd string rookie making his 3rd start on the road in the playoffs? Blitz the hell out of him! You may give up one or two big plays to hill waddle but most of the time you win

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, CSBill said:

We did get 25 first downs and out gained them by 200 yards. Hmmm?

 

We got yardage.  We made plays.  Game still felt like it could have slipped away at any time. 

[Golden*Wheels]

game almost killed me

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

It just doesn’t matter enough. Especially in this game. You’re playing the 3rd string 7th round rookie and your coach is taking timeouts on defense with the play clock at 0. Negating positive plays for the defense. Nearly calling one on the 1st Knox TD.
 

Meanwhile Allen’s 2ints weren’t really his fault. brown ran the wrong route. He’s connecting on deep balls and some are dropped. Taking the ball out of Allen’s hands isn’t the answer 

 

I agree, neither of the picks were Allen’s fault.  The ball bounced off Beasley’s chest, and that’s supposed to be his “thing”.  He was open, ball hit him in the numbers.

 

Then there was clearly some communication issue between Brown and Allen, I can’t tell you who’s wrong though Romo thought it was Brown

 

All the catches ruled incomplete 🤐

[Mango]

4 minutes ago, appoo said:

He’s completing a bit more than 63% of his passes though. He’s got to be hitting shorter stuff.

 

Today he was at 59% thabks to all those shot calls

He hasn’t completed more than 63% of passes since the first NE match up. Today was particularly frustrating for me today because it feels like this is the QB he’s been for the last month or two. 
 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm

[Coffeesforclosers]

3 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Anybody happy about the win today? 

 

I am.  You'd think we lost.

 

Miami plays us tough under McDaniel. So what. He's a .500 coach that limped into the 7 Seed.  We're not going to revamp the roster to beat Miami.

 

That said, this OL needs work in the off-season. Josh needs to be a bit more 2020 and a bit less 2019.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

I have a theory. Because Josh has reworked his entire game since coming into the NFL, making adjustments to his mechanics and eyes takes a really long time to become permanent. Sometimes years and years. 

 

Josh said he took this offseason off for the first time to let his body rest. Which is totally fair. But it comes with some consequences for a guy who’s he to make so many changes. 
 

There was also that super goofy interview with him, Barkley, and Keenum. They make a few goofy references to how much film they watch. Allen is one of the worst QB’s in the league against zone this year…

I thought Allen played very well.  The fumble was on him but neither INT was.  Romo was pretty clear that Brown failed to run the pattern he should have and the ball bounced off Beasley's chest.

 

Bottom line was that Allen had over 350 yards passing and 3 TD's. And he played great late in the 3rd and 4th quarter when the game was on the line leading the Bills to 2 TD's.

 

 

[nedboy7]

6 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

Dorsey is supposed to put Allen in a position to succeed. He should know Allen by now and know that he needs to rein him in.. instead he gives into Allen and calls bomb after bomb. Dorsey needs to go. 

 

I completely agree.  I wish Dorsey would figure this out but I feel if this post season continues like this on offense, a change is needed. 

[Goin Breakdown]

6 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Anybody happy about the win today? 

I wanted them to win and they did BUT happy? Not even close. Of Tua was playing........well you know. We all know. 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

i get not blitzing burrow or mahomes they will burn you, but a 3rd string rookie making his 3rd start on the road in the playoffs? Blitz the hell out of him! You may give up one or two big plays to hill waddle but most of the time you win

 

Perhaps a degree of arrogance again; thinking we could handle Thompson so allow the defense to pick up plays which we'll be using in future week/s?

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

An “F” performance on a win?  Seriously?

 

You need to check yourself

 

There is plenty to criticize, but a W is never an F

 

No...they need to check *their* arrogance and stop playing with their food before eating it.

Just now, Goin Breakdown said:

I wanted them to win and they did BUT happy? Not even close. Of Tua was playing........well you know. We all know. 

 

I don't agree. The Bills play that game totally different if Tua was playing.

[78thealltimegreat]

4 minutes ago, 947 said:

I've overcome the disappointment & relief has set in. One thing still makes me sick to my stomach:

 

How did Josh not even see the CB blitz coming up on the strip-sack-TD? He walked up pre-snap & was completely ignored.

Singletary was probably supposed to chip and didn’t 

[newcam2012]

3 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

An “F” performance on a win?  Seriously?

 

You need to check yourself

 

There is plenty to criticize, but a W is never an F

It was a D performance. Too many turnovers on offense, defense had some poor moments, and special teams was bad. 

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

We need more quick release type passes.

 

It's either a run or a 20+ yard pass.

 

We need some easy timing passes 

Miami blitzed a lot and the Bills essentially had no hot route. I guess the hot route is chucking it 50 yards.

 

Quick slants to Beas or Diggs...high percentage throws.  

 

Not sure what they were doing today.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Billz4ever

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I thought Allen played very well.  The fumble was on him but neither INT was.  Romo was pretty clear that Brown failed to run the pattern he should have and the ball bounced off Beasley's chest.

 

Bottom line was that Allen had over 350 yards passing and 3 TD's. And he played great late in the 3rd and 4th quarter when the game was on the line leading the Bills to 2 TD's.

 

 

 

I would agree with you, if it weren't for the deep shots late in the fourth quarter. No logic, not necessarily and put unneeded pressure back on the defense.

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

It just doesn’t matter enough. Especially in this game. You’re playing the 3rd string 7th round rookie and your coach is taking timeouts on defense with the play clock at 0. Negating positive plays for the defense. Nearly calling one on the 1st Knox TD.
 

Meanwhile Allen’s 2ints weren’t really his fault. brown ran the wrong route. He’s connecting on deep balls and some are dropped. Taking the ball out of Allen’s hands isn’t the answer 

I don't think of it as taking it out of Josh's hands.  I'm not blaming him per se but there's nothing wrong with taking a safer route that you are capable of doing against an opponent who has far less chances of scoring and especially if you don't turn the ball over.   It also is unnecessary for Josh to be taking those shots like where he fumbled the ball.  Save it for when we need to score 30 or 40 points.  Give teams something else to think about other than meeting at the QB for a big hit.

[No_Matter_What]

Ugly win, but whatever. Give me 3 more ugly wins this season.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

I like McDermitt and want him to stay as the HC but there are times when I think he's Branden Staley with a better QB. 

I just can't handle these incredibly stupid poor timed TO's.  How many times have we watched a positive play be nullified by some obscure McD TO?

[downunderbill]

That was a tough one and tough to watch, and Buffalo did as much damage to themselves as Miami did. Agree with the positive and negative views of the current state of the Bills but we are still alive and remember, Miami was built to beat the Bills😉

 

Anyway, it's new week now on to Jacksonville.

[Low Positive]

I know that no one want to hear this right now, but the Bengals had wins by7, 3 and 3 on their way to the SB. The Raiders had the ball inside the 10 down 7 at the end of the game. I thought that this would be a blowout, but playoff games tend to be close.

[ColoradoBills]

I'm just pasting a reply of mine from another thread.

 

After this game I'm so confused as to what goes on in Ken Dorsey's head and I really want to know if he actually

watches games to see what options he actually has.

 

I was patient thinking when the playoffs started, we would see a more rounded offense.

 

I'm not going to worry about it anymore.  I'm 100% convinced it's going to be bombs away to win the SB or bust.

Personally, I disagree with this approach, but I see no evidence to the contrary.  

 

Go Bills.

 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

No...they need to check *their* arrogance and stop playing with their food before eating it.

They need to go back in time and and retain Hodgins instead of letting him walk. Bone head move. Not a single dropped pass this year. Bills could use that kind of consistency. 

[Bufluv]

41 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Motor should be getting 12 to 15 carries a game, end of story.  If we are gashing and have a lead then mix in Cook for another 10 carries.  If we are in a real shoot out then let Josh take over.  Passing all the time with a lead is just bad game management.

Amen. Cook does not break tackles or fall forward. He does hit a hole fast but when we need to control the clock and run when the other team knows we’re running, you gotta feed Singletary.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

He hasn’t completed more than 63% of passes since the first NE match up. Today was particularly frustrating for me today because it feels like this is the QB he’s been for the last month or two. 
 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm

Bad weather, an at best average offensive line and a distinct lack of play making skill players is the problem not Allen.  Sure the WINS are sloppy and heart stopping but we're 14 - 3 and in the divisional round of the playoffs. 

 

I don't get the nit picking criticism of Allen.  The reason the game wasn't over at half was not because of Allen's play.

 

 

[Success]

JA - a few times this year - has reminded me of Houston playoff game JA.  

 

But he showed great resiliency today. That drive that culminated w/ the Davis TD was special, and happened when his confidence was at a low ebb.

 

JA is my QB, though thick & thin. There is still no one I'd rather have.

 

[K-9]

15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

This game means nothing next week , whether you win by 3 or 23. This game was close due to turnovers and short fields that resulted  Dorsey needs to give Josh some outlets to hit quickly underneath vs blitzes, I’m not sure either of Allen’s INTs were on him, have to take another look. 

Allen hit several underneath routes vs the blitz this afternoon. The catches by Morris and Beasley were particularly timely.