Snappysnackcakes Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Holy crap has he been bad tonight. I should clarify - our trade of him away… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 For those not watching Monday Night Football, Cody Ford is getting annihilated all game. Bad pick by Beane. But excellent move to admit defeat and recoup a 5th rounder while he still had some perceived value. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Snappysnackcakes said: Holy crap has he been bad tonight. I should clarify - our trade of him away… I forget, what did we get for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I forget, what did we get for him? A copy of Call of Dude Bros - 2 Spooky 4 U limited Sega Genesis Edition autographed by Kyler Murray and a playbook that has never been opened. 2 14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It's only been five starts but this is his lowest graded season thus far by pff. We pry win the trade but it will always be a huge whiff of a second round pick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: It's only been five starts but this is his lowest graded season thus far by pff. We pry win the trade but it will always be a huge whiff of a second round pick. I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am 1 1 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am DK Metcalf and AJ Brown were both on the board, but I too wanted DK. Some here wanted him with the Oliver pick. Couldn’t believe he had made it to our pick in the 2nd round only for the wizard to screw it up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am Big miss by all GM's on DK when the analytics showed he graded out pretty much exactly the same as Julio Jones. An absolute physical specimen of pure athleticism. A total no brainer and instead the Bills traded UP for a T that was too slow for the position and was expected to need to move to G at the pro level. But I love when fans say we aren't allowed to criticize the picks because the scouts know more than we do 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am Do we trade for Diggs the next year if we already have DK? Who knows what the long term ramifications would've been? 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappysnackcakes Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 The Cards definitely knew what they were getting with him. They’re the suckers. Everyone had Cody graded higher than where we picked him. (Everybody means lots of organizations) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Do we trade for Diggs the next year if we already have DK? So we get DK AND Justin Jefferson? You're right ... senseless to go through all the counterfactuals. On the "Cody Ford was a big miss" thing? Well, that one's easy. I posted his PFF scores on the MNF thread - truly astonishingly awful, and still trending down somehow. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 so no worries about a repeat of the Teller mistake?😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Absolute turnstile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I still think it was like 3 straight years where Ford came into training camp as the starting guard. So yeah, it was good that Beane traded him and was able to actually get something for him, but it's not like it was proactive. Beane's acceptance of Cody Ford's complete sucktitude was a very long and slow process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 We traded him for what, a bag of icy hot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Think we got a 5th back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Is having Saffold instead supposed to make me feel better? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, pigpen65 said: Beane's acceptance of Cody Ford's complete sucktitude was a very long and slow process. "Sucktitude" is a great word, think I'll try using it in the haiku thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Think we got a 5th back. Yeh, but I think we had to pay for his airfare to PHX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Beane is an excellent drafter, except when it comes to linemen. On the O line, Spencer Brown might turn out to be good but he's still more of a liability. Cody Ford was a complete miss. Beane did get Wyatt Teller, but then let him go to hold on to Quinton Spain. As for the D line, he got Groot but considering how much draft capital he spent on D linemen this is like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Oliver is improving to the point where he's a good solid B or B+ player. Epenesa and Basham are C level players. It's understandable that Beane has shied away from drafting O linemen, considering his track record, but the Bills really need to invest in this area. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Jamie Nails said: I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am Why? Corporate shill? Then again, I suppose it's more polite than the reaction the Buffalo Bills fans showed when the Bills drafted that kid from Wyoming back in 2018. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Jamie Nails said: I’ll never forget sitting in the stands near the stage at the draft in Nashville amd the Bills are on the clock. I’m sitting next to @Mark Vader and we’re the guys getting shown on the draft coverage. I’m yelling DK, DK, DK and we go Ford. Had to act happy for the camera. Was pissed. Still am JN, even though I wasn’t right there with you, please know I was right there with you. Wanted DK badly. I’ve been criticized elsewhere here in the last 24 hours for even bringing it up, but yeah it was a big mistake. …just now getting over Ngata! 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Jauronimo said: A copy of Call of Dude Bros - 2 Spooky 4 U limited Sega Genesis Edition autographed by Kyler Murray and a playbook that has never been opened. You are good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Everyone wanted DK. Ford was a gigantic miss period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I now understand why Beane thought Saffold was such a big upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: DK Metcalf and AJ Brown were both on the board, but I too wanted DK. Some here wanted him with the Oliver pick. Couldn’t believe he had made it to our pick in the 2nd round only for the wizard to screw it up. That'd be me. Should have been out first pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Utah John said: Beane is an excellent drafter, except when it comes to linemen. On the O line, Spencer Brown might turn out to be good but he's still more of a liability. Cody Ford was a complete miss. Beane did get Wyatt Teller, but then let him go to hold on to Quinton Spain. As for the D line, he got Groot but considering how much draft capital he spent on D linemen this is like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Oliver is improving to the point where he's a good solid B or B+ player. Epenesa and Basham are C level players. It's understandable that Beane has shied away from drafting O linemen, considering his track record, but the Bills really need to invest in this area. Not a lot of good O Lineman out there. Scores across the league seem a lot lower. Defenses are playing better. But a big factor has to be the declining level of play of O lineman across the league. Looks at the Bills on Sunday. Dawkins had 3 holding penalties. Brown's play is barely passable most weeks. And Saffold hasn't been much better. I would not mind seeing some of big Ike Boettger shortly if he is well enough to play. He has always been solid and plays with a little bit of an edge. ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Probably Beane's worse pick, more for what he didn't get than for what he did--although that sucked too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: DK Metcalf and AJ Brown were both on the board, but I too wanted DK. Some here wanted him with the Oliver pick. Couldn’t believe he had made it to our pick in the 2nd round only for the wizard to screw it up. Definitely a huge whiff but we probably don't have Diggs if we drafted DK or Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcliff Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Cody is a mystery. Has all the physical tools but they just don’t translate. I recall being at a spring practice this year. Before things got going all the Online was standing around in a corner of the end zone while Cody stood away from them by himself. I zoomed in on him with binoculars and he seemed totally uninspired to be there. He may have had personal issues he was dealing with but his eyes told me he definitely wasn’t really there mentally. I hope he resolves what ever it is that is holding him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Big miss by all GM's on DK when the analytics showed he graded out pretty much exactly the same as Julio Jones. An absolute physical specimen of pure athleticism. A total no brainer and instead the Bills traded UP for a T that was too slow for the position and was expected to need to move to G at the pro level. But I love when fans say we aren't allowed to criticize the picks because the scouts know more than we do Aren't you the guy that changed his name to "Wrong Josh" and quit the forum after we picked Allen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: But I love when fans say we aren't allowed to criticize the picks because the scouts know more than we do Um, they do know more. See. Edited December 13, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Utah John said: Beane is an excellent drafter, except when it comes to linemen. On the O line, Spencer Brown might turn out to be good but he's still more of a liability. Cody Ford was a complete miss. Beane did get Wyatt Teller, but then let him go to hold on to Quinton Spain. As for the D line, he got Groot but considering how much draft capital he spent on D linemen this is like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Oliver is improving to the point where he's a good solid B or B+ player. Epenesa and Basham are C level players. It's understandable that Beane has shied away from drafting O linemen, considering his track record, but the Bills really need to invest in this area. Agree with everything except Oliver who is a force. I remember too many Bills defenses who gave up free yardage up the middle to not appreciate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Big miss by all GM's on DK when the analytics showed he graded out pretty much exactly the same as Julio Jones. An absolute physical specimen of pure athleticism. A total no brainer and instead the Bills traded UP for a T that was too slow for the position and was expected to need to move to G at the pro level. But I love when fans say we aren't allowed to criticize the picks because the scouts know more than we do Let me guess. You were screaming wrong Josh in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Beck Water said: I forget, what did we get for him? our dignity back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Utah John said: Beane is an excellent drafter, except when it comes to linemen... A few years back when the Bills were still wandering in the desert, and were suffering from underwhelming O line play, I asked a couple of high school classmates who had received full Division I scholarships why there was so much trouble finding good line personnel. They maintained that aside from Iowa, none of what is coached at the collegiate level carries over well to the pro level. A good few years being coached by a capable pro coach is necessary for success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Epstein's Mother said: Let me guess. You were screaming wrong Josh in 2018. Point is we aren't always right and neither are they. Otherwise Tom Brady goes #1 and there are no draft busts. We are entitled to our opinion. Every year there is a pick where we go "what the heck were they thinking" and then in comes the peanut gallery with "you don't know what you are talking about!" This year it was the Bernard pick. The team isn't always right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 His weight has really ballooned and not in a good way. Almost felt sorry for him watching him play last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: Point is we aren't always right and neither are they. Otherwise Tom Brady goes #1 and there are no draft busts. We are entitled to our opinion. Every year there is a pick where we go "what the heck were they thinking" and then in comes the peanut gallery with "you don't know what you are talking about!" This year it was the Bernard pick. The team isn't always right Being right all the time is an impossibility. Being right more often than not is the goal. Who's doing that better than Beane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said: Being right all the time is an impossibility. Being right more often than not is the goal. Who's doing that better than Beane? Agreed but even he's not always right so when some of us who study these players object to a draft pick we shouldn't be immediately silenced. We have brains and opinions too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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