MarlinTheMagician Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Board is filled with opinions. Factual threads are needed from time to time. This thread is far from factual. The only fact is the first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: There are now 7 playoff spots. If the Bills don't make it, McDermott should be fired. It would be inconceivable for Buffalo to miss the playoffs. If that happens, and coupled with the salary cap realities, we may be headed for a bumpier ride than any of us could have imagined. That being said I like the Bills to come out of this funk. Unfortunately, it may be too late before they squander home field YET AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: This thread is far from factual. The only fact is the first post. yes which is why I posted it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Stafford led the league in INTs last year so LFG SB W 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, KHAN said: I gotta admit I never saw this type of regression happening in year 5. Just have to hope it's just a phase that he comes out of soon. The red zone turnovers are devastating. Yup.... something major is going on with Josh? New OC? Concussion? Too many commercials? Too much mvp hype? Girlfriend? Regression to heroball? Whatever it is I hope it gets fixed soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Stafford led the league in INTs last year so LFG SB W It’s becoming a bad, recurring habit. Allen is hurting the team and someone in that locker room needs to have the stones to confront him about it. The last play he had Singletary wide open for a check down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said: It’s becoming a bad, recurring habit. Allen is hurting the team and someone in that locker room needs to have the stones to confront him about it. The last play he had Singletary wide open for a check down. He also had an easy first down run straight up the middle...might have scored...only one LB there to stop him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, Roundybout said: And he is our entire offense. I will not blame him for this loss. How can you not? Fumble in the end zone after huge, epic goal line stand? Throwing the game losing pick on 2nd and 10 with 2 mins left in OT? Sure it's a team game but I think even Allen would agree he is why they lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: It’s becoming a bad, recurring habit. Allen is hurting the team and someone in that locker room needs to have the stones to confront him about it. The last play he had Singletary wide open for a check down. "Hey Josh. You've got to stop throwing the interceptions" "But I like it!" "No, it's got to stop." "Oh gosh darn it. Okay then" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeParrish Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LondonBill said: "Hey Josh. You've got to stop throwing the interceptions" "But I like it!" "No, it's got to stop." "Oh gosh darn it. Okay then" Nah. Daboll used to get in his ear quite regularly, which I think helped. We’re not privy to what his relationship is with Dorsey. We do know the locker room worships him like he can do no wrong. Allen getting angry or saying he “needs to do better” in his pressers isn’t working. Something needs to change. Edited November 13, 2022 by RoscoeParrish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Nah. Daboll used to get in his ear quite regularly, which I think helped. We’re not privy to what his relationship is with Dorsey. We do know the locker room worships him like he can do no wrong. Allen getting angry or saying he “needs to do better” in his pressers isn’t working. Something needs to change. Well I agree with you there for sure. Daboll sorted a lot of his passing game out. Could be that he's starting to unravel a bit without him. 'Reverting to mean' as they say. I hadn't considered that. It could be technical thing. Edited November 13, 2022 by LondonBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Really hope we can land OBJ. The loss of Cole Beasley is really hurting us. He’s was Josh’s security blanket. Always found a way to get open especially when Josh was under pressure. They are getting zero production out the slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: I think he is pressing too much in the second half of games because the offense isn't scoring points. If I am not mistaken all of the INTs the last 3 games have been in the 2nd half correct? He threw one right to jets defender on first drive last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 We had these same moments with Daboll. Today is exactly what this team is. Fast starts, petering out, and always losing the crazy games. A team like this CAN win it all, but they have to get extra lucky that they can run away with it in every important game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Allen has regressed. Change up the route trees. Stop with the deep route. Concentrate on the short and intermediate passing. Dorsey abandoning the runs is baffling. The run helps the pass. Seems Dorsey enamored with Allen and not looking at him critically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He's thrown 6 of those 10 pics in the last 3 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 There have been a lot of bad pics lately but the first one today, was on 4th and 2 while allen had scrambled and was at the sideline. Obviously he SHOULD force it on that play. So I don’t blame him for the int. the second one tho was ugly. And most the others this year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I truly do think that Allen needs to work very closely with Jordan Palmer, even now. Some passes I wonder how he did that, but other passes I’m scratching my head and wondering what he was thinking. My ultimate verdict is that he’ll be fine though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This morning on NFL Gameday, Bruschi insisted - with 100% confidence resulting in pushback from his colleagues - that the Vikings would win on an end of game interception by Allen. He was absolutely certain of it. Could be a Patriots homer stirring the pot, or could be that the league is catching up to Allen and baiting him into losing his patience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry jones Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I have the perfect cure to his red zone problem of late… Run the friggen ball!!! It’s pretty tough to find throwing lanes with 7 or 8 guys covering in the end zone. Maybe if they would run once in awhile it might open things up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Daboll coddled Josh, wiped his a55, comforted him and built an entire offense around him. With no Daboll, Josh is on his way to becoming the next Jeff George. 100m arm, 2 cent brain 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: And he is our entire offense. I will not blame him for this loss. He fumbled snap in endzone, throws a terrible pick to end game why does he not get blame?. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLinALLEN Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: And he is our entire offense. I will not blame him for this loss. I love allen but fumbling a snap in the endzone is peterman level bad....not to mention the 2 picks in the redzone. What more does this kid have to do wrong to have you accept that hes capable of blowing a game? It's almost all on him today (frazier, D, injuries, play calling close runner ups). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, mrags said: His decision making since halftime of the packers game has been pretty terrible to say the least. I still think he was concussed. He actually looked good today though until those picks. I don’t know what happened at halftime of that game, but I wish I could go back in time and upset the time continuum so that things don’t play out the same. This hasn’t been the same Bills team ever since leading the Pack 24-7 at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: This morning on NFL Gameday, Bruschi insisted - with 100% confidence resulting in pushback from his colleagues - that the Vikings would win on an end of game interception by Allen. He was absolutely certain of it. Could be a Patriots homer stirring the pot, or could be that the league is catching up to Allen and baiting him into losing his patience. The good thing is it's all in Allen's control. He could simply make the easy play and become unstoppable again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He also leads the NFL in weight on his shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp566 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He’s reckless. Bottom line. Even when he falls to the ground with the ball it often pops out and isn’t secure. He’s just not in the same stratosphere as a Patrick Mahomes. He single handedly costs this team games. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) There really needs to be a rule about starting a topic with so few of posts Edited November 14, 2022 by John from Riverside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, peterpan said: Daniel Jones looks pretty good. so much is coaching. He really doesn't lol. That guy is terrible. Luckily for him they have Barkley and he can manage a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, henry jones said: I have the perfect cure to his red zone problem of late… Run the friggen ball!!! It’s pretty tough to find throwing lanes with 7 or 8 guys covering in the end zone. Maybe if they would run once in awhile it might open things up. They want invest in the oline to run the ball, or give cook a chance idk but your right they just want do it or they can’t. But think what this offense could look like if the Bills could run it. If you had to bring the safeties in the box to help with the run. Our offense would be unstoppable. Instead they drop everyone and come after Allen. Same game plan every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: This thread is far from factual. The only fact is the first post. here are some more facts: He's on pace for 5300 yards passing (3rd in league), 37 TD passes (2nd in league), 899 yards rushing (24th in league and this includes RBs) and 7.5 rushing TDs - yeah he's horrible. If you don't do the math thing, that's 6,200 total yards (which would shatter the NFL record held by Drew Brees by 600+ yards) and 45 total td's. He'll cleanup the INTs, all qb's have tough times - look at some of Mahomes games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: I think he is pressing too much in the second half of games because the offense isn't scoring points. If I am not mistaken all of the INTs the last 3 games have been in the 2nd half correct? No. He threw that inexcusable pick in the red zone on the first drive against the Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: No. He threw that inexcusable pick in the red zone on the first drive against the Jets 5 out of 6...my fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: Our franchise QB leads the league in interceptions. What is scary is he should have more if you count all the near INTs. Is Josh, Carson Wentz? MVP to collapse overnight? I think the fame has gotten to him and he is pressing because of it. Hero ball. Some can handle it, others can’t. Sad Meh! So did Matthew Stafford last year. Things turned out ok for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He has been borderline reckless with the ball. Needs to clean that up yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, LondonBill said: I'm sorry you've grown up watching a football team that's never lost a game before I hope Josh wins the Lombardi trophy and puts the pointy end right up you. The Bills missed the Playoffs for 17 straight years, and are only even good because of Allen. Good luck finding another QB remotely as good as him in the Draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said: It was fun while it lasted? It sucks after losing today the season ended with a 6-11 record. I didn't know you could lose 8 games on one Sunday, but hot damn! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, Motorin' said: It sucks after losing today the season ended with a 6-11 record. I didn't know you could lose 8 games on one Sunday, but hot damn! If any team can lose eight games in on day it's the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Bills are also tied for second in the NFL in most turnovers with 18 with the Colts. Only New Orleans with 19 has more. Too careless with the ball. Philadelphia only has 3 all season. The Bills have multiple games with more turnovers than the Eagles do all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: Hero ball. Yep. I'm seeing some of that. Of course, Mahomes had his similar stretch last year, trying to make the big play when defenses were oriented around stopping it. I'm not worried. Yet. 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Philadelphia only has 3 all season. The Bills have multiple games with more turnovers than the Eagles do all year. The Eagles low turnover rate = not sustainable. Sometimes it really is just luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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