NFL Week 10 - Vikings at Bills post game thread

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

10 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

Why us? What team has these kind of losses? 

I texted my brother and told him to not look away because somehow he was going to see some kind of loss that even we haven’t seen before. And the bills never fail to deliver failure in unique ways. 

[Jamone]

Bills will be bills .

[Billsforumsucks]

1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

The coaches/staff should have kicked the FG…. The staff should have opted to pass from the 1inch line or taking safety. That coaches…. Cam Lewis breaks up the pass vs going for the int on 4th down we win…

 

There we’re way too many winning decisions that could have been made that make it not on Allen. Allen played bad sure. But there were bad coaching calls and easy plays that it wouldn’t have mattered 

 

This staff sucks… never really thought so, but today is all on the coaches. 

No way, Josh made the decision to go for it instead of the FG

[KeLLy1278]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

This lose is on Josh. Maybe we sit him next game let him get fully healthy and think about the choices he has made. The pressure is getting to him and he needs a break. 

For those that disagree… how is this loss NOT on Josh??  Who’s fault is it?  The red zone ints just continue to pile up.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Process said:

Josh could have either run it or checked down to singletary for an easy 5-10 yards. Absolutely no idea what he was thinking.

Davis had a step at first but Peterson caught up…still a terrible risk but that’s probably what he saw 

[UKBillFan]

5 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:

Yeah but they were up 24-10, 2nd and 2 at the other teams 7. I’m not one of those establish the run guys but you run 7 times there if you need to. 
 

 

 

What happened to the run game in the second half?

[jcamm1966]

1 minute ago, Jamone said:

All we needed to do was take a ***** safety 

not with this secondary

[Buffalo Ballin]

• Josh Allen officially went into mediocre QB mode. I don't know what happened to him. First things first, Allen should stop appearing on Kyle Brandt's ESPN show. He's clearly injured. There are throws he usually makes that he didn't have the confidence to pull off today.
• As shown in our history starting in 2000s, we usually collapse at the midway of the season EXCEPT for the previous 3 seasons with Josh Allen and Daboll under center.
• We're clearly NOT the number one defense because we're severely banged up. It's a great thing Beane didn't trade for Christian McCaffery. We really need those draft picks to help our defense and o-line.
• Coach McDermott is a problem. There are a lot of signs emerging that he shouldn't be the coach after this season ends. There is still a lot of football to play though. Let's see what happens.
• Leslie Frasier. I don't know. He's definitely not getting a head coach job anywhere.
• OC Ken Dorsey. Where do I start? He's awful.
• We can't win coin toss. Whenever that comes up, forget it. We lost that.

[BillsSbSoon]

Serious question..does anyone really believe this is still a super bowl team? We may not even win the division now. Truly unreal. Once again it’s like beating kc in the regular season was their sb and forgot there was more games left. This is exactly what happened last year

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Roundybout said:

The defensive talent is so massively overrated in the secondary. I’m so sick of the stories about the late round picks rising up. Tell Tre to get on the field or get off this team.

What defensive talent? There were backups everywhere. We severely missed Edmunds when he left. Vikings really got going once he left.

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

I mean…..speaking honestly here. JA has to be completely out of the running for MVP. He would have to have some monstrous remaining games through the rest of the year and Pat Mahomes would have to break his leg. 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Process said:

Josh could have either run it or checked down to singletary for an easy 5-10 yards. Absolutely no idea what he was thinking.

He isn’t thinking. He appears to be playing in a brain fog. You see it over and over again. 

[jcamm1966]

team crumbles under pressure

[Playoffs?]

3 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Bills snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

Why are we throwing it into the end zone at the end there? There was still plenty of time to take higher percentage underneath stuff. Idk if that is on Allen or Dorsey.

My guess is Allen.  Dorsey may call the passing play, but Allen is making the reads and throws.  
 

It’s so bad that it seems like some mobster called Allen at halftime vs Green Bay, and said “you better not win another game… but don’t make it look too obvious”

[Since1981]

Coaching killed us. Remind to punch the ball on 4th 22! to Jefferson. OT Realize you have FG in bag. Take safety. Sneak at 1 foot?

 

coaching is both plays and situational 

[BeastMaster]

You can blame Josh for losing the game, but the coaches could have put the team in a better spot a few times. Passing up an easy FG was a mistake, and they could've taken a safety instead of letting Allen have to sneak the ball from in his end zone. 

 

Lean too hard on one guy and he breaks down

 

They are ruining Allen IMO

[Putin]

Just now, Roundybout said:

It is when no one is open underneath 

Why are throwing the ball in the red zone we had plenty of time to run and a tying FG in our pocket in worse case 

[Dan]

11 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

Team is still cursed

 

WOW

Kinda how i feel after the last few weeks and the way the season ended the last couple years 

[BillsFan4]

 

oh great. Another “game of the year” we lost that we now get to hear about for the next year+.

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

This game might actually just have put me off actually watching games live… I just don’t enjoy getting THAT upset over anything, and honestly after decades of heartbreak, this old routine can’t be good for the ticker.  I’ll still follow, record the games and maybe watch them back when they aren’t crapping the bed, but I think the live experience isn’t for me anymore.

[Niagara Dude]

Our defence as usual could not get off the field and our offence choked in key situations.  The key play was Cam Lewis on that 4th & 18,  needs to punch that ball out and not try and intercept.

 

This team still sucks at situational football,  including our QB who is no MVP right now.  Unless things change this team is not a Super Bowl Team. I just hope White returns because our DB's suck and cannot tackle.

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I don't have it in me to go back and watch the replay, but it's an interesting take.

He pumped once, then was late and behind on the throw. The play wasn't really there, regardless. He didn't need to force it.

 

Once again, Allen didn't want to take what he was given. On that 4th and 2 towards the end of the 4th, he could've just taken the 2 yards, but he goes for the end zone. Same thing in overtime. He's in easy FG range, but instead of living for the next down he forces it into the end zone.

[wppete]

Bench Josh Allen! Who agrees???? 

[BananaB]

5 minutes ago, Process said:

Where was Singletary after the 1Q?

 

Why the ***** did we trade for Hines?

 

Allen has become a problem. Though im confident he'll turn it around.

 

Dorsey on the other hand is a train wreck and needs to be fired to give us any chance of winning a SB.

Singletary couldn’t gain a yard after the first quarter. 

[CEN-CAL17]

Just now, Flucod said:

No way, Josh made the decision to go for it instead of the FG

Oh he did? Well McD is an idiot

[Real McClappy]

11 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

They had two timeouts. They had two minutes. They were in field goal range for the tie which would have been huge considering the circumstances. Why why why two 20 yard shots to the endzone in a row? Why? WTF was that? WTF is going on?

I could not agree more. 

 

Offense play calling the 2nd half was an absolute train wreck that cost us a W.

[Scott7975]

This team has zero room left for error.  They pretty much need to win out the entire rest of the way all the way through the SB.  I have zero confidence in Dorsey.  In a game where the run game is actually working, at a time when you can utilize it.... he called zero run plays.  

[schoolhouserock]

What the hell is with the red zone INTs?

 

My heart sank when I saw Josh double clutch. He does that just before deciding to do something dumb.

[muppy]

Just now, Jamone said:

Bills will be bills .

Jamone welcome to the board. This take is valid but I hate it nonetheless. Peace.

[JoshAllin]

Looked like Gabe should've stood underneath his receiver that's where Allen released it

[Buffalo_Stampede]

It was 27-10 before Edmunds left. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

I mean is anyone really surprised ? I’ve been a Bills fan a long time. I want to believe this team will one day win a SB, but it’s just been one heart breaker after another. This loss is similar to the Miami one where they could’ve done SO MANY things to avoid losing, but it’s **** up after **** up. Something drastic needs to be done. I can’t stomach this failure any longer. The Buffalo Bills are cursed. 

[Nextmanup]

10 minutes ago, IronyAbounds said:

We're back to 1st year Josh. Great throws sprinkled in with errant passes and questionable judgement. I can see the elbow causing the errant throws, but the bad judgement is so much more puzzling.

 

 

I think the inconsistency is simply who he is.  He can be great or really bad, and it can change based on possession, quarter, half, game, or multi-game streak.

 

 

[Billz4ever]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

Yep, maybe now boastful Bills fans will understand the div is no longer a cakewalk.

I've been saying that for weeks and getting laughed at.

 

I'm not laughing, but I deserve to be.

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

I texted my brother and told him to not look away because somehow he was going to see some kind of loss that even we haven’t seen before. And the bills never fail to deliver failure in unique ways. 

Just want to know who cursed Buffalo, when, why, and how do we break it?

[SCBills]

Just now, Roundybout said:

The defensive talent is so massively overrated in the secondary. I’m so sick of the stories about the late round picks rising up. Tell Tre to get on the field or get off this team.

In their defense… we have good backups when one or two guys are out.  
 

We finished the game missing Edmunds, Rousseau, Poyer and Elam.  Tre in witness protection.  Backup already in for Hyde since he’s done.  
 

Just insane. 

[Billsforumsucks]

Just now, GolfandBills said:

To say the least.  This kind of loss can derail a season 

Last week did that, it is done. 3rd place in the division. Schedule too difficult to overcome rest of season. Tavens only have 1 team on the schedule with a winning recited left. Same as many other AFC teams. We have to win out now just to have a chance.

[Ralonzo]

7 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Bills made a ton of mistakes, but this team sustains injuries at the worst possible time this season.   The whole complexion of this game changed when Edmunds went out with the groin injury.

 

No, it changed when Allen didnt take the 3 points and backed it up with a pick to Peterson with a big return.

[Bangarang]

The call to sneak it in your own end zone is so bad. 
 

33 seconds left, drop back, kill a few seconds and throw it away if you have to. You can do that 3 times and worst case scenario take a safety while killing time. 
 

That call is on McD as much as it is Dorsey. 

[Jamone]

13 seconds has honestly slipped us back to Pergatory. After years of progress bills will never win anything. Cursed. McDonald’s is a dummy. No one is telling Josh to chill. Def no mvp def no division. Bills are one and none, one and done or not even making the dance at this point. Injury’s, coaching, hero ball, turnovers from everyone. Terrible.