34-78-83 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Big Blitz said: Not sure he’d be laughing about anything if it was bad. They have an idea already. Logic prevails! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: With all due respect, Alpha, I don't think it's at all the same thing. Trimble is a PhD Physical Therapist. All of the PhD Physical Therapists I know can watch video or listen to a description of an injury, lay hands upon the injured party and do some little manipulation that makes the injured one scream, and then say "well, your orthopedist will probably want an MRI, but tentatively this could be....." A week later when the MRI comes back (us civilians having to wait a bit for 'em) the diagnosis invariably matches. Analogizing the injury analysis of a trained PT and the self-diagnosis of a tweener on WebMD is just silly, no insult to you intended. Education matters. It's not credible in the sense that it's not a confirmed report from the Bills or even an NFL insider, but it's credible in the sense of it's the eye of a highly trained medical professional, which puts it way ahead of Some Guy on Twitter. Trimble isn’t a physician. He’s never had to make a diagnosis in his career. He treats patient after a medical doctor has done all the work diagnosing and recommending physical therapy. He’s very good at what he does, which is treating with physical therapy injuries which have been diagnosed by someone else and seeing how long it takes for patients to recover from different types of injuries. Anyone with any medical background can look at what happened to Josh and make guesses about what injuries could have occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, klos63 said: Same here. Weather gonna suck too. Really? oh man, i’ve been looking forward to this weekend and the warm November Bills weather for a few weeks. Todays news is depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Man the drama on this thread. If it was anything at all they’d announce it and get Case ready For Minnesota. He’s fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I saw McD's nose twitch, Allen is done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Process said: He's laughing at Ian's report that Allen will practice this week..... Did you actually watch the interview or just a 15 second clip posted by the Bills media team? Both, but he's laughing at the report that Allen will be limited in practice this week. I could be wrong, but while "we're still evaluating" is normally not good, I really don't think he'd have laughed if it were potentially weeks or season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 My mothers cleaning lady said Allen came into the Jets game with a sprained arm. Whatever happened in yesterdays game aggravated what he already had. She wouldn’t say how she knew this. Lol. i’m not making it up. The cleaning lady. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Man the drama on this thread. If it was anything at all they’d announce it and get Case ready For Minnesota. He’s fine. I think he’s fine…but they would absolutely not announce it and give Minnesota a competitive edge in preparing for Keenum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Tre isn’t ready to play in a game yet. See you Thanksgiving Tre. Hopefully Yeah this is a little confusing. He must be close or they wouldn’t have gone ahead and activated him. I have to wonder how much the mental aspect is coming into play , for example , are they relying on Tre telling them he is completely ready ! Perhaps the Drs have cleared him but there is a thing in work comp injuries. Once an injured worker is away from working over 6 months , the likelihood of them returning to work is greatly reduced as people can emotionally lose their confidence and can’t overcome that. So in work comp they always try to push for earlier return to work. I can only imagine after tres injury the mental aspect is probably the hardest thing to overcome. I really empathize with him and hope he feels emotionally as well as physically ready when he does return to playing. After sitting out and putting in all this time to rehab, it must be hard to finally pull the trigger and face reality about being back to your prior level of excellence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The only thing they’re checking is the severity of the sprain or bruise and if playing thru it is ok - and most importantly, if he can handle any pain - thus the “Josh is a competitor” comment He’s fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Both, but he's laughing at the report that Allen will be limited in practice this week. I could be wrong, but while "we're still evaluating" is normally not good, I really don't think he'd have laughed if it were potentially weeks or season. That's where I'm at after watching the entire question in context. Or McDermott is sociopath laughing because he knows it's way worse than day to day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Casey D said: I saw McD's nose twitch, Allen is done. So far Rappaport's report seems spot on. Preliminary analysis suggests he can play, but they need to confirm with additional tests. That is not to say the tests might not show something worse-- which also explains McD IMO. But we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Does anyone else get frustrated with the Whole Tre saga? MCD says he is just not ready.. yet no setbacks.. but yet since he has been activated he just continues to be day to day How much can change in days? He must be good to go, we see videos of him moving pretty good. Do you think Tre is having any sort of Mental Hurdles to going full out? Or is this staff just being overly cautious.. Tre looks like a well toned ripped athlete who shouldn't take long to get back into football shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: He's going in for surgery today to get his head removed from his ass. That’s the team spirit we look for! 😋 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zow2 said: My mothers cleaning lady said Allen came into the Jets game with a sprained arm. Whatever happened in yesterdays game aggravated what he already had. She wouldn’t say how she knew this. Lol. i’m not making it up. The cleaning lady. OK, so we had the neighborhood jogger report on Jake Kumerow's ankle. Sure, Why Not, the Cleaning Lady report on Allen's arm! I had speculated, that because of the big drop-off between Josh's play in the 1st and 2nd half of GB, he got dinged during the GB game. Obviously not enough to limit him or show on injury report but Edited November 7, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, zow2 said: My mothers cleaning lady said Allen came into the Jets game with a sprained arm. Whatever happened in yesterdays game aggravated what he already had. She wouldn’t say how she knew this. Lol. i’m not making it up. The cleaning lady. Somebody has to clean the room during those high level business meetings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Does anyone else get frustrated with the Whole Tre saga? MCD says he is just not ready.. yet no setbacks.. but yet since he has been activated he just continues to be day to day How much can change in days? He must be good to go, we see videos of him moving pretty good. Do you think Tre is having any sort of Mental Hurdles to going full out? Or is this staff just being overly cautious.. Tre looks like a well toned ripped athlete who shouldn't take long to get back into football shape. Ready to practice does not equate to ready for live game action. He hasn't played in 11 months, there is a LOT of stuff that he needs to get back into football shape with. They are not risking putting him back out there before he is ready to play FOOTBALL, not just practice and be medically cleared. I'm not sure how it is surprising that a player will need time to ramp up to playing in an actual game when he hasn't been able to practice for 11 months. Edited November 7, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I hope Case Keenum plays until Allen is fully healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I’ll donate my spleen to the cause, the reports haven’t mentioned that body part yet, so just in case. 🤞🏻🤞🏻They don’t have to amputate the elbow, if so we can start looking for a couple of donors (may as well get one for Poyer while we’re at it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: That's where I'm at after watching the entire question in context. Or McDermott is sociopath laughing because he knows it's way worse than day to day. I don't think McDermott is a psychopath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Does anyone else get frustrated with the Whole Tre saga? MCD says he is just not ready.. yet no setbacks.. but yet since he has been activated he just continues to be day to day How much can change in days? He must be good to go, we see videos of him moving pretty good. Do you think Tre is having any sort of Mental Hurdles to going full out? Or is this staff just being overly cautious.. Tre looks like a well toned ripped athlete who shouldn't take long to get back into football shape. I would not be surprised at all if it's a mental thing. Love Tre but he never struck me as a guy with a killer instinct for football. Cares a lot about life outside the game. He also really struggled with the decision to play during the covid year and was considering skipping the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Has Quesen(dingle)berry been cut yet? Worst OL in the league and it’s not even close. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, zow2 said: My mothers cleaning lady said Allen came into the Jets game with a sprained arm. Whatever happened in yesterdays game aggravated what he already had. She wouldn’t say how she knew this. Lol. i’m not making it up. The cleaning lady. This is why I love this place, no sarcasm. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 We’’re all living and dying with this. Myself included. But I thought McD was pretty light in the presser. Not what I would expect if preliminary analysis was devastating. The Rapaport report probably is right. Somebody in team PR likely fed it to him. Happens all the time in exchange for help with other stuff later. I can’t believe an athlete with a $250m contract wouldn’t be able to cut the line and have an MRI (and have it read) within 24 hours of the incident. So I suspect that they’ve had the MRI done and read, and that McD is playing a little loose with this one to make the Vikings prep for Allen and Keenum on Sunday. I won’t feel good until I see Allen on the field on Sunday. But I feel better than I did an hour ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I can't find the PC on youtube, what did Derm say about Tre White? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The fact they are still evaluating is unsettling......probably MRI and other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: I can't find the PC on youtube, what did Derm say about Tre White? I am paraphrasing here… McD was asked why Tre didn’t play on Sunday. McD answered that Tre didn’t play because he isn’t ready to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: Trimble isn’t a physician. He’s never had to make a diagnosis in his career. He treats patient after a medical doctor has done all the work diagnosing and recommending physical therapy. He’s very good at what he does, which is treating with physical therapy injuries which have been diagnosed by someone else and seeing how long it takes for patients to recover from different types of injuries. Anyone with any medical background can look at what happened to Josh and make guesses about what injuries could have occurred. I'm going to hazard a guess here, that you haven't worked closely with many really good, PhD level physical therapists. I have absolutely had a really good PT diagnose me - after a Dr visit and tests - said walk here, turn there, hold this up, pressed (SCREAMS), proceeded to write a note to doctor suggesting re-examination and different tests. Have others in my social circle with similar experiences. Part of the issue is that the art of physical examination is not as thoroughly taught to physicians these days, when tests are more objective - but they have to be the right tests looking at the right part. Then I'm gonna let this go, because it really doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The fact they are still evaluating is unsettling......probably MRI and other things. Probably deciding course of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, schoolhouserock said: I am paraphrasing here… McD was asked why Tre didn’t play on Sunday. McD answered that Tre didn’t play because he isn’t ready to play. Illuminating as always, Sean McDermott everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The fact they are still evaluating is unsettling......probably MRI and other things. He’s easily had an MRI since then. He just won’t say that he’s fine. Which is McDermott playing Hoodie level stuff with the injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The fact they are still evaluating is unsettling......probably MRI and other things. Yup, I would say very unsettling. I bet something happened in the Green Bay game and it was further aggravated yesterday. He needs to sit as long as it takes to get to 100%. My prediction on how I will be dealing with this over the next 48 hours Stage 1 - Ok, I don't even care about the #1 seed, just hope Allen is back for the Cleveland game Stage 2 - Let's just get him back for Jets and Miami games so we can still win the division Stage 3 - Monitoring Chargers and Patriots hoping to grab a Wild Card Stage 4 - Are we listed on "in the hunt" yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 All things being equal, I prefer my QB healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg S said: Hopefully he can play but I really hope the Bills let Singletary and Cook do all of the running 100%. No need for Josh to run especially if he is hurting. We need Josh throwing the ball not running it. No need for him to take extra hits. I don't understand this thought process anymore. More serious injuries happen to QBs in the pocket. Yesterday was a good example. Also, the only injury he had that ever made him miss games was in the pocket in his rookie year. If anything, on that particular play I was actually thinking to myself while watching it that he would run because the pocket was collapsing on him. Let Josh go seek contact. Those in-pocket hits are what terrify me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffbigalls Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Apparent UCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It's the franchise QB. If it was anything serious,, every darn test in the world would have been done by now and they would have immediate results. If Josh Allen isn't ok, then I would be totally shocked. And if I'm and Allen if he is going to miss time, kiss this season good bye as there is NO WAY Keenum is winning games. The guy is brutal. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just give Josh the rest he needs. Give Keenum the Zach Wilson game plan from yesterday (hit your short passes and don’t screw up the game by turning it over). If Keenum can’t execute it, let Barkley have a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, njbuff said: It's the franchise QB. If it was anything serious,, every darn test in the world would have been done by now and they would have immediate results. If Josh Allen isn't ok, then I would be totally shocked. I view this is as leaving no stone unturned type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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